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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: bigmac on Sunday 17 February 08 23:40 GMT (UK)
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hi im trying to find out about the the mccafferty of 17 east shaw st greenock my nan lived there when she got married but very little is known about them in the family my nan was fanny given (nee mccafferty she married archibald keith kennaway given in 1931 any help would be most welcome many thanks
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Hi
Scotland's People has Fanny & Archibald's marriage certificate. This will give you both sets of parents.
From that you should be able to get births for Fanny's Parents and using the census if you then find their parents it should show their siblings. This McCafferty at 17 East Shaw St could have been a relation. A lot of Orosh folks came to and from and settled in West of Scotland. It could be this was someone who came over earlier and the family stayed with them. But first you;d need to establish if Fanny's parents were resident in Scotland in 1901
Hope this helps
Ann
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Hi bigmac
on the marriage cert Fanny's parents are
Edward and Fanny McCafferty m/s Rowe
in the 1901 census they are living at
15 East Shaw street
as follows
Edward and Fanny
Alfred..............................1893
Catherine........................1895
edward............................1897
Patrick.............................1899
Fanny wasn't born till the following year according to her age on marriage cert
Elaine
ps
did I send you a copy of the marriage cert
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hi elaine you did send me marriage cert but i cant read it and i cant download it >:( i may send off for it and see wot happends thanks for your help cousin again ......... ann many thanks for your help best wishes james
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Hi James
I know it is a really bad copy
I would go with the 17East shaw street address
because that's what is on the marriage cert
I am looking for Edward and Fanny in the other census's
will email you some things to tell you
Elaine
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im looking to hunny but no joy as yet but i wont give up :-*
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I think this maybe Edward with his family in 1871
Patrick.......................42
Catherine..................42
Edward.......................9
Rose Ann...................10
Isabella......................6
Margaret....................3
they were living at I Smiths Lane Greenock
no Luck with Fanny's family yet
I will keep looking
Elaine
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This is the only Fanny Rowe I can find on any of the census
I am not sure if they are the right family but some of the names are quite similar to
your other family names
George Rowe....................37
Ann ..................................31
Charles.............................14
George..............................12
Fanny...............................7
Alfred...............................9
Henry...............................2
they are living at 76 Dempster street gives her birth place as England
so you maybe able to search the BMD record for her birth
Elaine
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BMD has Fanny Gertrude Rowe, 3rd Qtr 1873, Newton Abbot.
1871 census:
Newton Abbot, Devon
George Rowe, Head, 27, Printer, Cornwall
Elizabeth A Rowe, Wife, 22, Devon
Charles W Rowe, Son, 4, Plymouth
George B Rowe, Son, 2, Plymouth.
Can't see this family in England on the 1881 census, so I think it might be the one you found in Scotland, Elaine, especially as George's occ. is the same.
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I'm sure that is them Sue :)
I remember seeing Fanny's middle name somewhere
and Gertrude rings a bell
your a Genius girl :-*
Elaine
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your a Genius girl :-*
Runs in the family ;)
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Oh well done sueky!
Fantastic!
Ann
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Hi James,
On your family tree on Genes Reunited you have William and Mary McCafferty as Edward's parents, are these correct? If so then this isn't the same Edward McCafferty that married Fanny Rowe.. PS.. are you still searching??
1871 Census
Patrick.......................42
Catherine..................42
Edward.......................9
Rose Ann...................10
Isabella......................6
Margaret....................3
Kirsty x
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Posted in error
Elaine
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sorry Kirsty
I just realised that message was for james
Elaine
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hi kirsty yes you have the right family edward married twice his frist wife died giving birth to nanny given in apr 1912 he went on to have a few more kids by his 2nd wife james xx
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Hi James, thanks for replying.. I have been a bit confused.. did u get a copy of Nanny Given's birth certificate? I got a copy of Archie's birth certificate if you are interested in that let me know and I will send it to you..
Also, on Fanny Rowe McCafferty's death certificate it states 'pneumonia' as the cause of death???
Do you know who his 2nd wife was??
Kirsty x
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hi kirsty i was confused to ???but im slowly getting there i didnt get nanny given's certifcate i would love archie birth certifcate ive got my mum and dad's birth certifcate so ive made a start ... edward's 2nd wife was called mary ann kelly hope ive helped some what james xx
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Hi James, have you looked at my tree recently? I've been doing a wee bit on the McCafferty's... I'll email you with that certificate.. I was so chuffed when I got it.. I think I'll go in and get Nanny's as well... do you have any photos of them? Either together or separately? x
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hi kirsty ive got no photo's nanny given or archie but my sister has a photo of nanny given so i will txts her so i can get a copy done and sent it to you i need a trip to scotland to do more digging around ... you wont believe how many mccafferty there are and most of them lived in eastshaw st greenock xx
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James, my gran has photos of Nanny, I will try and get them and scan them in... I have never seen a pic of Archie.. desperately trying to track one down.. x
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my dad never mind him so he had already left greenock i remember your gran it maisy has she got part of her finger missing ?xx
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thats the very one! haha
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the only person who might have a pic of archie would my uncle jim or maybe my uncle jack. i remember her so well i sent a email to brian last night to xx
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I think uncle Jim is the only chance there.. Uncle Jack was too young.. he didnt remember his father I don't think, and of course my grandfather searched for him all his adult life... I'll say to my dad u emailed.. he never does his email!
Do you know who the children were of Edward and Mary Kelly? I have just added some stuff about her on GR...
x
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a lady called kathleen found edward's 2nd wife and how many kids they had ive think ive got it in a email i find and send it to you ok xx
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I've just looked at their marriage certificate on SP.. ... x
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Hi James Hi Kirsty
I have some pictures of people I dont know that were in my granny Given's box
maybe with a bit of luck one of you may know who they are
I will scan them and send them to you's
Elaine
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hi hunny you are a star thank you xx
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Thanks Elaine.. do they have any names on the back!? HAHA.. how easy (and totally unfun) would that be!?... lol
x
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ok.. I've totally confused myself.. Edward McCafferty had a sister Kathleen and she married James Gallacher.. I seen that on one of the census.. they were all living with Patrick McCafferty and now I can't find it.. does SP remove your paid views after a while?
thanks! x
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that would have been to easy ;D
I bet these old codgers meant their secrets to remain just that
James I think that my granny's McCafferty's were a different line
but who know maybe once we get a bit further back they might fit in
somewhere
going to scan those pictures will send them soon
Elaine
SP dont remove you viewed certs Kirsty
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kathleen and james lived at 38 wellpark buildings and i was named after james
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James.. I've been sweating over that all night.. do u have a marriage certificate? did they have children? 38 Wellpark Buildings?? Isn't that where Nanny lived when she was older and on her own? I need to have a look at the address next time I pass.. my grandad took me there to visit her when I was a wee girl.... x
Elaine.. they didn't know we'd have t'internet! can't wait to see those pics!
x
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hahaha i dont have the marriage cert they didnt have any kids when you went to the flat did you see a photo on the wall behind the door ??????????????
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Pics on their way
but I am going between PC and laptop at the minute
cant find my disc to put printer on PC
so have to use the other
I am in the middle of emailing another lady too
she is related to the given family through the McElhones
and Sarah Martin Given
Phew!!! I am puffed out
hope I send everything to the right people
if not let me know
Elaine
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hahaha i dont have the marriage cert they didnt have any kids when you went to the flat did you see a photo on the wall behind the door ??????????????
Oh man.. I was only about 4!!! Actually ... I remember something.. what was it?? ... I remember wee silver balls in a dish.. bit bigger than golf balls.. (they were in the living room)!!! lol
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Hello Elaine
After casual browsing on the net I found the enquiry into the McCafferty family history.
This information may be relevant or not.
My Uncle . RC Priest Father John Quinn used to visit a family called McCafferty in Greenock when home on leave from the missions back in the 60's and early 70's.
I have just recently found out that my Great Grandfather had been married twice
and McCafferty may have been his name. My granny's maiden name was McGurn from Derrygonnelly in Ireland. There is some confusion with this and I am currently making enquiries with my Irish relatives.
My Gran married John Quinn I assume round about the 1920's given the age of my father and uncles.
Regards
B.
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Hi Brendan
and welcome to Rootschat
that name father Quinn rings a bell but I cannot think why
do you have any Idea the name of the Missions he was involved in,
would your grannies name be Jean by any chance
I dont know why but that name is ringing bells too
Elaine
added
I now remember how father Quinn rings a bell
it was a father Quinn who baptised my children ;D
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a lady called kathleen found edward's 2nd wife and how many kids they had ive think ive got it in a email i find and send it to you ok xx
Trying do find out more information on my grandas family the macaffetys...not much know but I formation on here seems to link to the same branch of the mccaffertys