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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: scully on Saturday 23 February 08 12:08 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for a James and Margaret Wood in the 1871/1891/1901 cenus. Also a May mills in the 1891 cenus aged about 13. Also a John and Jane Scullion in the 1901 cenus and a Thomas and Margaret Scullion in the 1901 cenus. A Hugh and Agnes Kennedy in the 1891/1901 and a William Young aged about 18 in the 1891 cenus. Sorry there is so much but anything will help. They may all be in the St Quivox and Newton-on-Ayr area.
Regards
Scully
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Hi Scully,
Willing to help but can you break down the families please? Also, see my reply to your other post as there are some additional names there.
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Hi, LL
Thanks for the information on my other post. Do you have the ages of the Balmer children on the cenus as i have no marriage for Thomas,s daughter Margaret. Also the age of James in the 1901 Cenus as i have no marriage for him and i think that he is Margarets brother born 1871. The 1871/91/01 Census is for a James Douglas Wood/ Margaret Scrymgeuor Duncan married 4/6/1860 Ayr. Children are Robert 1861/William F 1863/ John 1869/ Crawford 1872/Jessie K 1873. The 1901 cenus is for a John Scullion /Jane Dillion married 8/4/1892. No need for May mills in the cenus as i found out she died at the end of 1881. As for John Scullion young in the 1901 cenus all i have is in the posts above.
Regards
Scully
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1901 Census
79 Wallace Street
James Scullion Head Married age 30 Horse Dealer born Ayr
Agness Wife age 30 born Ayr
Agness daughter age 8 scholar born Ayr
Thomas Balmer Nephew age 11 born Ayr
Alice Balmer Niece age 9 born Ayr
William Balmer Nephew age 7 born Glasgow Lanarkshire
George Balmer Nephew age 3 born Glasgow Lanarkshire
81 Wallace Street
Thomas Scullion Head Married age 55 Horse Dealer born Ireland Co Antrim
Agness wife age 53 born Ayr
James Father Widower age 89 (or 83 really hard to read) born Ireland Co Antrim
Patrick boarder singel age 21 born Ayr
Maggie Scullion Balmer Daughter Married age 33 born Ayr
Agness Balmer Grand Daughter age 3 born Glasgow Lanarkshire
James Balmer Grand Son age 2 months born Ayr
Here is Maggie's Marriage:
29 December1887 Ayr at the Manse Newton Ayr
After Banns according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland
William Balmer age 24 Shoemaker Journeyman Bachelor
Usual Residence 59 Marn Street Newton Ayr
Father George Balmer Coalminer Deceased
Mother Alice Balmer MS Good
married
Maggie B Scullion age 19 Steam Loom Weaver Spinster
Usual residence 82 Wallace Street St. Quivox
Father Thomas Scullion General Dealer
Mother Agnes Scullion MS Tierney
Witness John Dickie
Witness Agnes Regan
Maggie Scullion Balmer and William Balmer Children:
Thomas Scullion Balmer 29 June 1889
85 Wallace Street, St. Quivox
Father William Balmer Shoemaker Journeyman
Mother Maggie Balmer MS Scullion - Married December 29, 1887 Newton Ayr
Alice Good Balmer 5 Aug 1891
49 Wallace Street, St. Quivox
Father William Balmer Shoemaker Journeyman
Mother Maggie Balmer MS Scullion - Married Dec 29 1887
William Tierney Balmer 17 March 1894
239 Broad Street Milerend, Camlachie, Glasgow
Father William Balmer Shoemaker Journeyman
Mother Margaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
George Balmer 21 March 1896
90 Elder Street Govan, Glasgow
Father William Blamer Shoemaker
Mother AMrgaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
Agnes Tierney Balmer 3 May 1898
14 Heydon Street, Kinning Park, Glasgow
Father William Blamer Shoemaker
Mother Margaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
James Scullion Balmer 3 Oct 1900
14 Allison Street, Ayr
Father William Balmer Shoemaker
Mother Margaret Balmer MS Scullion - Married 29 Dec 1887
Not sure where Maggie's husband William is on the 1901 Census, but he outlives Maggie.
William Balmer Death Cert:
27 Jan 1935
William Balmer Shoemaker age 72
Widower of Margaret Scullion
died January 27
63 Possil Road Res: 77 Drygate Glasgow
Father George Balmer Coal Miner Deceased
Mother Allison Balmer MS Good Deceased
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Now James Scullion is Maggie's brother:
James Scullion Birth Cert
23 Feb 1871 Wallace Street, St. Quivox
Father Thomas Scullion Carter
Mother Agnes Scullion MS Tierney - Married 3 Dec 1867
Witnessed by Janet Tierney Grandmother
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James Marriage to Agnes
27 Nov 1890
The Chapel St. Quivox
After Banns according to the forms of the Roman Catholic CHurch
James Scullion age 19 Dealer Bachelor
Usual residence 85 Wallace Street St. Quivox
Father Thomas Scullion Dealer
Mother Agnes Scullion MS Tiernay
married
Agnes Regan age 20 Spinster
Usual Residence 85 Wallace Street St. Quivox
Father Thomas Regan Dealer Deceased
Mother Sarah Regan MS Crosbie
Witness William Tierney
Witness Sarah Regan
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The 1871/91/01 Census is for a James Douglas Wood/ Margaret Scrymgeuor Duncan married 4/6/1860 Ayr. Children are Robert 1861/William F 1863/ John 1869/ Crawford 1872/Jessie K 1873.
There is lots here and some new children you were not aware of. I suggest you update your tree and let me know which way you want to go from here.
4 June 1860 Ayr
After Banns according to the Forms of the Presbyterian Church, Free Church
James Douglas Wood 24 Tailor Bachelor
Usual Residence Main Street Newton
Father Robert Wood Dryer
Mother Charlotte Wood MS Douglas Deceased
Married
Margaret Scrimgeour Duncan age 21 Domestic Spinster
Usual Residence Victoria Park, Ayr
Father James Duncan Gardener
Mother Helen Scrimgeour
Witness James Neill
Witness Elizabeth Paterson
1871 Census: 197 Russell Street
James D Wood Head Married 34 Clothier Master, born Ayrshire, Newton
Margaret Wood Wife age 31 born Kirkmicheal
Robert Wood Son 10 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr
James D Wood Son 7 Scholar born Ayrshire, Newton
William Wood Son 5 Ayrshire, Newton
John Wood son 1 Ayrshire, Newton
1891 Census 31 Fort Street, Ayr
Maggie Wood Head Married Age 50 born Lanark
William Wood Son age 25 Ship Steward born Ayr Ayr
Jessie Wood Daughter Age 17 Dressmaker born Ayr Ayr
Charles Wood Son Age 16 Telegraph Messenger born Ayr Ayr
1901 Census 37 Fort Street, Ayr
Margaret Wood Head Widow Age 61 born Lanarkshire
Jessie Wood Daughter Age 27 Dressmaker born Ayrshire, Ayr
Charles Wood Son Age 26 Clerk and Telegraphist born Ayrshire, Ayr
Charles Tait Boarder Age 31 Chemist born Caithurs Thurso (??)
Crawford Wood Died 8 Fed 1872 1 day old
Jessie Kirkpatrick Wood had a twin Maggie Scrymgeour Wood
Charles Douglas Wood was born 25 Mar 1875
Death Cert 1911 Margaret Wood Widow of James Douglas Wood
Age 71
Witness Son in Law Charles Tait
Marriage cert for Jessie Kirkpatrick Wood and Charles Tait
21 April 1903
After Banns according to the Forms of the United Free Church of Scotland
Charles Tait Druggist age 33 Usual residence 37 Fort Street
Father Richard Tait Tailor and Clothier
Mother Christina Tait MS Clark
Married
Jessie Kirkpatrick Wood age 31 Dressmaker Spinster Usual residence 37 Fort Street
Father James Douglas Wood Tailor and Clothier deceased
Mother Margaret Scrimgeour Wood MS Duncan
Witness Jessie Thomson
Witness John Duncan Wood
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The 1901 cenus is for a John Scullion /Jane Dillion married 8/4/1892.
Marriage cert 8 April 1892
After Publication according to the Forms of the Roman Catholic Church
John Scullion age 23 Bachelor usual residence 69 Mill Street Ayr
Father James Scullion Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Brown (dead)
Married
Jane Dillon age 19 Wool Spinner Spinster usual residence 69 Mill Street Ayr
Father Hugh Dillon Coal Miner (dead)
Mother Elizabeth Dillon MS Corbet
1901 Census 67 Mill Street Ayr
John Scullion head married age 32 Ostler born Ayrshire, Ayr
Jane D Scullion wife age 29 born Ayrshire, Ayr
David Scullion Son age 11 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr
Peggie Scullion daughter age 9 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr
James Scullion son age 6 Scholar born Ayrshire, Ayr
Mary Scullion daughter age 4 born Ayrshire, Ayr
Hugh Scullion son age 2 born Ayrshire, Ayr
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Not tackled these two yet. Would they be in the same house or seperate? Are they all in Ayr as well? Do you have approximate ages for them? Need to narrow down William Young so any more details on him will help.
A Hugh and Agnes Kennedy in the 1891/1901 and a William Young aged about 18 in the 1891 cenus.
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Hi, LL
Thanks for all the information , I never expected this much information.
You need not bother about the Kennedys . All i have on William Young is he was born on 7/5/1872 Glasgow but moved back to St Quivox by 1881. His parents were William John Young/ Elizabeth Scullion. Perhaps he Married Young. Its the same with his brother Samuel born 29/12/1874 don,t know what happened to him after the 1901 cenus .Perhaps they moved away from Scotland. Regards
Scully
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Here is the missing info on both William and Samuel
1881 census
69 Cross Street
William Young head age 30 Carter born Ireland
Elizabeth Young wife 29 Out Door Worker born St. Quivox
Agnes Young 12 Scholar born St. Quivox
William Young 8 born Glasgow
Samuel Young 6 born Glasgow
1948 Death Cert
Samuel Young age 73
Carting Contractor retired
Single
25 July 1948
15 Victoria Street Ayr
Father William John Young Carter deceased
Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion deceased
Witness C Warron (sp) Brother in law
1891 Death Cert
William Young age 18
Single
24 Feb 1891
Domicile – 36 Cross Street St. Quivox
Father William John Young Carter
Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion
Cause of death inflammation of the bowels 8 days
Witness Elizabeth Young
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Hi, LL,
Thanks once again for the info. I was wandering if you would be able to find the marriage of a William Mc Phee to a Hannah Docherty Young and any Children. Hannah was born on the 27/8/1890 St Quivox and died 7/3/1965, Ayr her parents were William John Young and Elizabeth Scullion. All i know about William is i think his parents are a James McPhee and Mary Ann McLeary And he died on the 31/8/1949 Ayr. I would quite understand if you could not do any more as you have given me far more information than i expected. I am extreemly grateful for what you have allready given me.
Regards
Scully
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Here is what I Found. I have received a lot of help from others in my own tree quest. I am now playing the great wall of Ireland game with my tree so it feels satisfying to help others while I wait for the wall to give a little. My tree has many coming from Ayrshire and in helping others I find their trees connecting to mine sometimes which is really satisfying.
marriage of a William Mc Phee to a Hannah Docherty Young and any Children.
Marriage William McPhee and Elizabeth Young
23 Feb 1912
At the Mance Wallacetown Ayr
After publication according to the Forms of the Established Church of Scotland
William McPhee age 22 Rivet heater Bachelor
Usual residence 74 Elbow Street Ayr
Father James McPhee Holder on in Shipyard
Mother Mary McPhee MS McCleary deceased
Married
Annie Young age 21 Wool Spinner
Usual Residence 6 Limand’s Wynd Ayr
Father William John Young Carter
Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion deceased
Witness David Hendrie
Witness Annie McLauchlan
Children will be tricky as these certs must be ordered. When I did a search in Ayr with the last name McPhee and mother’s maiden name of Young the following came up that could fit. I believe the middle as a strong fit for children and possible the last one. Not sure about the first one:
Died Surname Forename Other Names age apx dob
1996 McPhee Archibald Young 82 1914
1999 McPhee Hannah Webb 79 1920
1993 McPhee Mary McCleary Gordon 76 1917
1990 McPhee Sarah Lucas Young Stewart 78 1912
Hannah Docherty Young Birth Cert
Born 27 Aug 1890
Father William John Young Carter
Mother Elizabeth Young MS Scullion
Married 1867 St. Quivox
William McPhee Birth Cert
3 Jan 1890
109 Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James McPhee Carpet Weaver
Mother Mary Ann McPhee MS McCleary
Married 31 Dec 1883 Govan
William’s sister Elizabeth:
Birth Cert 7 Nov 1891
Elizabeth McCleary McPhee
Father James McPhee
Rivetter’s Holder-on
Mother Mary Ann McPhee MS McCleary
Married 31 Dec 1883
Marriage Cert James McPhee and Mary Ann McCleary
Govan Glasgow City/Lanark
31 Dec 1883
At Woodville Place Govan
After Publication according to the Forms of the Free Church of Scotland
James McPhee age 20 Rivetter Holder-up Bachelor
Usual residence 202 Brighton Street Govan
Father James McPhee Lace Cord Cutter
Mother Agnes McPhee MS McCartney deceased
Married
Mary Ann McCleary age 18 Confectionary Worker Spinster
Usual Residence 18 Holm Street Govan
Father Henry McCleary Ship Yard Labourer deceased
Mother Helen McCLeary MS Gemmill
Witness William Hair
Witness Margaret McCleary
1891 Census Govan
202 Brighton Street
James McPhee Head age 28 Holder-On born Ayrshire, Ayr
Mary McPhee wife age 27 born Lanarkshire, Glasgow
James son 6 born Lanarkshire, Govan
Susan daughter 4 born Ayrshire, Ayr
Agnes daughter 3 born Ayrshire, Ayr
William son 1 born Ayrshire, Ayr
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Hi, LL,
Thanks again for the info. Is your tree related to mine at all. I am also having problems with Youngs, Scullions and the Hendries all coming from Ireland. Its like William Young born in Ireland in about 1850 and married in Ayr in 1868. I Know his parents were an Andrew Young and his mother was Sarah Smith on his marriage But her name was Agnes Smith on his death Certificate. and she was dead when he married. Its not knowing where in Ireland he was born or wether he came to scotland with his parents or if he had any siblings he came with. Its hard to think he came on his own. I Know the James Scullion/ Margaret Brown were married in County Antim in 1844/1845 and who thier parents were but thats as far as i have got.
Regards
Scully
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I know exactly what you mean about not knowing how and when they came from Ireland. At least they list the County in Ireland on some of your relatives. I had no clue and it took a lot of time to find some hint of where in Ireland they came from. Is there any more information you are trying to find in Ayr? Our trees have not crossed yet.
L
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Hi, LL
I have lots still to find in Ayr. One family is Robert Mills Wood Hendrie/Margaret Niven Agnew. I have their marriage but no deaths. I know the dates of his parents Robert Woods Hendrie/ Marion Mills marriage and deaths but i only know Margarets parents were Robert Agnew and Margaret Gibson Mitchell. I don,t know where she was born. Also the daughters of James Hendrie/ Marion Wood, All i know is Janet Hendrie born about 1852 Newton-on-Ayr no date of birth/ marriage or deaths. No marriages or deaths for the follwing daughters Mary Hendry 12/7/1856., Charlotte Douglas Hendrie,6/3/1862, Jane Hammond Hendrie,
Regards
Scully
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Robert Mills Wood Hendrie/Margaret Niven Agnew:
Death 1979 (you have to order this to see details)
Margaret Niven Hendrie
Other surnames Agnew Mitchell
Age 81
Ayr, South Ayrshire
Birth Cert Margaret Niven Agnew
10 Jan1898
Margaret Niven Agnew (Illegitemate)
34 Weaver Street Newton Ayr
Father Robert Agnew Pit Foreman
Mother Margaret Gibson Mitchell Housemaid
There is only one Margaret Gibson Mitchell that fits the age range
Birth Cert 9 May 1875
Waterside Place Old Cumnock
Margaret Gibson Mitchell
Father Hugh Mitchell Ploughman
Mother Jane Mitchell MS Hewet
Married 29 May 1871 Tarbolton
If this is the right Margaret Gibson Mitchell, here is her family on the 1881 Census
10 Green St Lane, Newton on Ayr
Hugh Mitchell head age 30 Railway Porter born Tarbolton Ayr
Jane wife age 26 Railway Porter’s wife born Tarbolton Ayr
Margaret daughter 5 born Old Cumnock
Janet daughter 4 born Old Cumnock
Annie daughter 2 born Newton Ayr
John son 4 month born Newton Ayr
1901 Census There is only one Margaret that fits the age range – Margaret Niven Agnew shows up with Robert’s parents?
136 Glasgow Road
Robert Agnew Head age 58 Coal Miner Born Ireland
Mary Agnew Wife Age 49 born Lanarkshire, Shotts
Elizabeth daughter age 27 born Midlothian, Edinburgh
Robert Son age 16 Coal Miner born Lanarkshire, Carnwatt
Charles son age 14 Coal Miner born Lanarkshire, Hamilton
Margaret Granddaughter age 2 born Lanarkshire, Hamilton
Death Cert 1979 (you have to order this to see details)
Robert Mills Wood Hendrie
Age 79
Ayr, South Ayrshire
Birth Cert 24 May 1899
Robert Wood Mills Hendrie
Father Robert Hendrie Carter
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Mills
Married 18 Sept 1888 Newton Ayr
Birth Cert Marion Mills
12 Oct 1862
Father James Mills Carter
Mother Marion Mills MS Wilson
Married 1 Jan 1853 Newton Ayr
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Janet Hendrie:
Marriage Cert Janet Hendrie
20 June 1871 Newton, Ayr
Henry Agnew Seaman Bachelor Age 28 (?)
Usual residence Allison Street Newton Ayr
Father William Agnew Gardener
Mother Mary Agnew MS Gilford (??)
Married
Janet Hendrie Sewer Spinster age 20
Usual Residence Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendrie Carter
Mother Marian Hendrie MS Wood Deceased
Witness John Andrew
Witness Mary Hendrie
Death Cert 3 Dec 1873
Janet Agnew married to Henry Agnew Seaman
Died 22 years of age
Father James Hendrie Carter
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Wood deceased
Witness Henry Agnew Widower
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Mary Hendrie:
Marriage Cert Mary Hendrie 24 Sept 1880
Newton Ayr
David Gemmell age 21Tailor (Journeyman) Bachlor
Usual residence W Main Street Newton Ayr
Father Robert Gemmell Fisherman Deceased
Mother Catherine Gemmell MS Niven Deceased
Married
Mary Hendrie age 23 Spinster
Usual residence W Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendrie Carter
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Wood deceased
Witness Alex Callyham (sp)
Witness Jessie Wood
1891 Census David Gemmell
73 Main Street Newton Ayr
David N Gemmell Head Married age 31 Tailor born Ayrshire, Ayr
Mary H Gemmell Wife Age 33 born Ayrshire, Ayr
1901 Census David Gemmel
50 Mainstreet Newton Ayr
David Gemmel Head Married Age 41 Tailor
Mary Wife age 44 Housekeeper
Death Cert Mary Gemmell (Hendrie)
16 July 1912
Mary Gemmell widow of Hendry Niven Gemmell (Tailor)
Usual residence 135 Main Street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendrie Carter deceased
Mother Marion Hendrie MS Wood Deceased
Witness Robert Gemmell Brother-in-law
FYI, the Gemmell family here may be connected to my tree but I would have to trace back this David to see if he connects.
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In looking for Charlotte Hendrie, the 1891 Census is interesting. There are some brothers that you had not listed so not sure if you knew about them. Also the David Gemmel that married Mary lived next door.
1891 Newton Ayr
2 Wood Close
James Hendrie Head Widow 48 Carter born Ayrshire, AYr
Janet daughter age 19
Mary Daughter age 15
John Son age 13
Charlotte daughter age 9
Robert N Son 7
Jane H daughter 4
Next on the Census is 50 Main street
Robert Wood Head Widow age 79 Dayer and Renovator born England
Then we have 3 Woods Land
William Gemmell Head age 24 Fisher
Marion Wife age 21
Then at 4 Woods Land
Robert Gemmell Head age 38 Fisher
Catherine wife age 39
William Son age 13 Baker
David son age 11
Robert Son age 6
Catherine Gemmell daughter age 15 Servant
Janet B daughter age 8
Agnes B daughter age 3
Euphemia daughter age 3
Mary Daughter age 1 month
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the last post should have said the 1871 Census not 1891.
Charlotte Douglas Hendry Death Cert
2 May 1875
Charlotte Douglas Hendry Single
Mainstreet Newton Ayr age 13
Father James Hendry Carter
Mother Marion Douglas Hendry MS Wood Deceased
Witness James Hendry Father
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Birth Cert 14 April 1866
Jane Hammond Hendry
Main street Newton Ayr
Father James Hendry Labourer
Mother Marion Hendry MS Woods
Married June 1851
Death Cert 26 March 1877
Jeanie Hammond Hendry single
Main Street Newton Ayr
Age 10
Father James Hendry Carter
Mother Marion Hendry MS Woods deceased
Witness James Hendry Father
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Hi,LL
Thanks again. Looking for info on a John douglas Hendrie born about 1888, His parents were John Hendrie & Mary Mc llvoy. Thats all i know about him before he got married. I know he married Margaret Brown Young on 17/9/1903 and i have the dates of his children,s births from1904/1922, and i know Margaret Youngs part of the family. I don,t know when John & Margaret died. i hope you don,t mind me asking you about a problem i have come across. I have a Mary Scullion born about 1848 in St Quivox , her parents were James Scullion & Margaret Brown. I have found a marriage of a Mary Scullion to Thomas Fitzimmons 9/9/1867 St Quivox, but it says her parents are Thomas Scullion & Elizabeth Brown. Do you think it could have been written down wrong as everything else seems to fit.
Regards
Scully
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1991 Census St Rollox Glasgow
16g Dottinhome (sp)
John Hendrie head age 41 Married Form Moulder born Lanarkshire Glasgoe
Mary wife age 28 born Lanarkshire Glasgow
Christina daughter age 7 Scholar born England
Annie daughter age 5 born England
John son age 3 born Lanarkshire Glasgow
Death Cert 13 Sept 1929
Margaret Brown Scullion Hendry
Married to John Douglas Hendry (Carting Contractor’s Carter)
Age 47
Lomond’s Wynd Ayr
Father William John Young Carting Contractor Deceased
Mother Agnes Young MS Scullion Deceased
Witness J Hendry Widower present
I can not find anything on John’s Death
Mary Scullion who married Fitzsimmons
There is a death cert for a Mary Fitzsummons age 26 14 June 1874
Married to Robert Fitzsummons Pit Engine Man
Father James Scullion Pig Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Brown
Witness Robert Fitzsummons Widower
I believe this one to be yours
The other one I believe to be a different Mary as her husband is Thomas and the parents are different.
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Hi, LL,
Thanks again , I am so grateful to you for sorting out the Mary scullion for me. Is there any chance you could find a marriage or death for a Janet Scullion born about 1852 St Quivox. Her parents were a James Scullion& Margaret Brown. I don, t want to push my luck with you as you have been so helpful.
Regards
Scully
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Janet disappears between the 1861 and 1871 Census. She shows up as a 9 year old on the 1861 Census then on the 1871 Census she is not in the house (but James and Margaret have two of the Fitzsummons Grandchildren living with them - Annie 2 and Thomas 5 month). No deaths between 1861 and 1871 for her age range and no marriages that are her. She just vanishes.
No worries about pushing your luck. I will let you know when I am done. If you can help me with some records in England let me know as we can exchange favours.
L
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Hi,L
Thanks, Where abouts in England, I have the Cenus from 1841 through to 1901 for Northumberland if thats of any help. Could you check for the the marriage of Janet Scullion born the 9/3/1873,parents were Thomas Scullion & Agnes Tierny. Also the birth of Agnes Tierny (Terney)born about 1847 & parents Barney Tereney & Janet Mcculloch.
Also Thomas and Agnes deaths they were married on 2/12/1867.
Regards Scully
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Cornwall, Stretton-on France, and Lazenby.
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Janet Scullion was never married.
Death Cert 24 May 1874
Janet Scullion
Wallace Street St. Auivox 1 year old
Father Thomas Scullion Pig Dealer
Mother Agnes Scullion ms Tiernay
Witness Thomas Scullion Father
Death Cert 13 March 1924
Thomas Scullion age 80
Horse Dealer
Widower of Agnes Tierney
23 Wallace Street AYr
Father James Scullion Horse Dealer deceased
mother Mrgaret Scullion MS Brown deceased
Witness T (?) Balmer Grandson
Death Cert 16 May 1914
Agnes Scullion age 66
Married to Thomas Scullion General Dealer
81 Wallace Street Ayr
Father Bernard Tierney Coal Salesman deceased
mother Janet Tierney MS McCulloch deceased
Witness James Scullion So Present 53 King Street Ayr
I could find no birth cert for Agnes.
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Hi,LL
Thanks again. The only problem with getting any information in England is there is only the basic details on the certificates. There is only St Caths which gives you a year and part of the year when the B.d.m,s occurd then you have to send away for certificates. I wish it was more like Scotland for the information you can get on certificates.
Regards
Scully
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Hi Scully,
I was looking up some MI's and decided to see if any that may be of interest to you while I was going through them. Hope these help:
Ayr Cemetary:
B61 - RIP In loving memory of Elizabeth Scullion d 14 May 1937 aged 65yr beloved wife of John McGuigan and of the above John McGuigan d 29 Mar 1952 aged 86yr their son Alfred Gerard McGuigan 25 July 1974 aged 60yr and dau Agnes McGuigan d 29 Apr 1985 aged 86yr
B62 - Dear to the memory of Daniel Brackenridge d 29 Dec 1942 aged 63yr beloved husband of Agnes Scullion the above Agnes Scullion d 3 Oct 1955 aged 75yr also their son William d 22 Aug 1980 aged 69yr dear husband of Ann Calderwood d 8 Feb 1998 aged 84yr 'Into thy hands'
B72 - RIP in loving memory of Patrick Kelly d 26 Aug 1954 beloved wife of Agnes Scullion the above Agnes Scullion d 29 Nov 1971 dear parents of Agnes
B76 - In loving memory of Alexander Hugh Hood d 31 Mar 1945 aged 64yr also Thomas F Scullion d 15 Mar 1969 Bessie McGuigan wife of Alex Hood d 26 Dec 1977 aged 84yr 'We have loved him in life, let us not forget him in death'
M276 - Er by Pearl Scullion in remembrance of her beloved husband Richard Harold Townsend d result of an accident on Ayr racecourse 2 Feb 1932 aged 26yr also her father James Scullion d 12 Nov 1926 aged 50yr also her mother Isabella Copeland d 13 Jul 1944 aged 68yr RIP
M287 - Er by Agnes Regan in loving memory of her husband James Scullion d 53 King Street 27 Jul 1923 aged 52yr and the above Agnes regan d 2 Mar 1929 aged 58 yr RIP
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Hi,L
Thanks for the MI,s. Is there any chance you could find information on the family of William Scullion & Margaret Dixon. I have no births for the following children, Margaret/ Thomas/ James/ William/ Agnes. No marriages for Mary Scullion ,b 4/5/1884. Elizabeth,b, 25/4/1873 or any of the above.
Regards
Scully
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Marriage 18 Spet 1873
William Scullion Carter age 18
Usual Residence Wallaec Street St Quivox
Father James Scullion
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Brown
married
Margaret Dixon age 21 Factory Worker
usual residence Carrick Street Ayr
Father Silas Dickson Labourer
Mother Elizabeth Dickson MS Swan
1881 census 79 Wallace Street St Quivox
William Scullion Head age 27 Hawker born St Quivox
Maryann wife age 28 born Maybole
Elizabeth dau age 8 born St Quivox
James son age 5 born St Quivox
William son age 3 born St Quivox
Agnes dau age 1 born St Quivox
1891 Census Wallace Town Ayr
William Scullion Head age 36 Horse Dealer
Maggie Scullion age 36
Elizabeth dau unmarried age 18 housekeeper
James Son age 15 Stableman
William son age 13 Scholar
Agnes dau age 10
Maggie dau age 8
Mary Ann dau age 7
Thomas son age 6 months
Maggie dau age 6 months
Marriage Cert 20 June 1893
John McGuigan age 26 Spirit Merchant
30 Kyle Street Ayr
Father David McGuigan Spirit Merchant
Mother Mary McGuigan MS McKien
married
Elizabeth Scullion age 20 Spinster
25 Wallace Stree St Quivox
Father William Scullion dealer
mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson
witness James Scullion
witness Margaret Jack
Death Cert 14 May 1934
Elizabeth Dickson McGuigan age 64
Married to John McGuigan Racehorse trainer
48 Craigie Road Ayr
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer deceased
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson deceased
witness Bessie Hood daughter
Marraige Cert 19 April 1899
James Scullion age 23 Horse Dealer Bachelor
23 Garden Street Wallacetown Ayr
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Dixson
married
Isabella Copeland age 23 Spinster
61 Mill Street Ayr
Father Andrew Copeland House Painter
Mother Margaret Copeland MS Harrison
Death Cert 12 Nov 1926
James Scullion Horse trainer (Racing) age 50
married to Isabella Copeland
4 Craigie Ave Ayr
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Dixon
Witness William Scullion son present
184 Comelypark Street Camlachie Glasgow
Death Cert 8 Aug 1933
William Scullion age 55 Horse Dealer Single
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson deceased
E M Guigan Sister Present
Marriage Cert 19 June 1907
Daniel Brackenridge age 24 Flasher Single
40 Brandson Street Hamilton
Father John Brackenridge Grocer
Mother Marion Brackenridge MS Wright
married
Agnes Scullion age 24 Dressmaker Single
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson
Death Cert 2 Oct 1955
Agnes Gillan Brackenridge age 75
widow of David Brackenridge Butcher deceased
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer Deceased
Mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson deceased
Witness William S Brackenridge son
Marriage Cert 12 June 1907
James Sheridan age 25 Spirits Salesman Bachelor
55 Wellington Street Ayr
Father James Sheridan Farmer
mother Mary Ann Sheridan MS Connelly
married
Margaret Scullion age 24 Spinster
22 High Street Ayr
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer
mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson
Death Cert 20 July 1946
Margaret Sheridan age 64
21 High Street Ayr
married to James Sheridan Wine and Spirit Merchant retired
Father William Scullion Horse Dealer deceased
mother Margaret Scullion MS Dickson deceased
James Sheridan widower present
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Hi, LL,
Thanks again, Looking for these marriages but they might be to early to find. A Catherine Wood born about 1822, Elizabeth Wood Born about 1830, Margaret Good wood born about 1832 and Charlotte Douglas Wood born about 1840. Parents Robert wood and Charlotte Douglas.
Regards
Scully
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Charlotte Douglas and Robert Wood had 10 Children
Catharine Wood b 14 July 1822 St Quivox
William Wood b 14 July 1822 St Quivox
Robert Crawford Wood b 26 Dec 1823 St Quivox
Marion Wood b 26 Jun 1825 Newton on Ayr
Elizabeth Wood b 08 Aug 1830 Newton on Ayr
Margaret Good Wood b 4 Oct 1832 Newton on Ayr
Hugh Wood b 03 Mar 1834 Newton on Ayr
James Wood b 06 Mar 1836 Newton on Ayr
Alexander Wood b 08 July 1838 Newton on Ayr
Charlotte Douglas Wood b 11 Sept 1840 Newton on Ayr
There is a marriage for Elizabeth Wood to Francis Findlay 28 May 1853 Galston Ayr
There is a marriage for Catherine Wood to Alexander Hood 28 April 1837 Newton on Ayr
Could find nothing for the other names
I also could not find death certs for Elizabeth or Catherine to confirm taht these were correct. I am curious how the name Crawford gets into your tree(Robert Crawford Wood) as I have a lot of Crawford's.
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Hi,LL
Thanks for the info. I only had 7 children Robert & Charlote. I looked on the 1841 Freecenus and found Robert and Charlotte, I had Robert born St Quivox but on the cenus it says he comes from England. Also on the cenus with them was Alexander & Cathrine Hood but it says Catherine was 25 so maybe she lied about her age when she married as i have her born in 1822. Could you look for Marriage of Alexander Wood b,1838 parents Robert and Charlotte. Also the deaths of James Mills & Marion Wilson after 1891.
Regards
Scully
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Hi, LL
I was just putting some data into the Wood,s and realized that the Catherine married to Alexander Hood is his sister born about 1814 not his daughter no wonder it did,nt fit.
Regards
Scully
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Can you please give me more information on James Mills and Marion Wilson. Without a approx birth there are too many.
THanxs!
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Hi LL
I have James Wilson born about 1833 and Marion Wilson born 20/12/1837. Marions parents were William Wilson and Isabella Lindsey I hope. The reason i say that is i was following the wrong parents for Charlotte Douglas but thanks to you giving me the the name of her son Robert Crawford Wood. I found them on the IGI Pedegre chart with his parents, grandparents, and great grand parents which were different to what i thought. Could you find the marriage of John Youngand Mary Colquhoun in Dalry they had a son John Young born about 1861,he died on the 16/5/1863 Dalry.
Regards
Scully
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I still end up with 8 James Wilson with that birth year +/- 1 year.
For Marion I end up with 3, none of which looks right:
Marion Campbell Wilson d 1857 age 19 Irvine
Marion Wilson d. 1873 Ayr age 36 (Illegitimate Mother Mary Wilson)
Marion Sillars Wilson d. 1914 age 77 Mauchline (parents John Sillars and Martha Calderwood)
I did much better on the marriage:
31 Dec 1858 Dalry
John Young age 19 Coal Miner Bachelor
Residence Den Dalry
Father John Young Labourer deceased
Mother Janet Young maiden name McCalhem
married
Mary Colquhoun age 19 Mill Worker Spinster
Residence Den Dalry
Father William Colquhoun Coal Miner
Mother Mary Colquhoun maiden name Bell
Witness Allan Gilmour
Witness John White
They show up in the 1861 Census living with Mary's Parents:
Dalry 4 Brick Row
William Colquhon Head age 44 coal Miner born Lanark Clareston
Mary wife age 43 born Lanark Carluke
John Young Son in Law age 21 Coal miner born Ayr Gateside
Mary Young Dau age 21 born Lanark Shotts
Sarah dau age 19 Reeler Flax Mill born Dumbarton
Still curious on where the Crawford comes from (Robert Crawford Wood)?
LL
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Hi,LL
Thanks for the onfo, Sorry I noticed i put James Wilson on the last post instead of James Mills.
Could you look for any info on these marriages i got of the IGI, Alexander Wood/ Jane Whitehouse on 19/4 /1864 Ayr. Also Charlotte Douglas/Thomas Curdie on 26/12/1859 Kilmarnock. I think her parents are William Wood/ Janet Manson Married 21/5/1847 Monkton. Is it to early to find the information on Williams marriage of 1847 , I am hoping that Wiliam is the son of Robert Wood and Charlotte Douglas. It is funny where the Crawford comes from, His brother had a son called Crawford but i have not come across the name any where else. I have Roberts Grandparents as Charles Douglas/Margaret Ferguson and Charles parents as Christopher Douglas/Christan Brown. William Wood/ Catherine McDonald. Maybe Crawford is somthing to do with one of them.
Regards
Scully
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There are 6 deaths for James Mills:
1883 age49 BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
1886 age54 KIRRIEMUIR /ANGUS
1901 age68 ANDERSTON GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
1910 age77 DUMBARTON /DUNBARTON
1911 age78 ST MARY DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
1874 age40 KIRKCALDY /FIFE
Marriage Cert 19 April 1864
Alexander Wood age 24 Seaman bachelor
Mainstreet Newton Ayr
Father Robert Wood Dyer
Mother Charlotte Wood MS Douglas Dead
married
Jane Whitehouse age 28 Sewer Spinster
Main street Newton Ayr
Father Hugh Whitehouse Seaman
Mother Janet Whitehouse MS Taylor Dec 3
Marriage Cert 26 Dec 1859
Thomas Curdie age 22 bachelor Grocer
Robertson Place
Father George Curdie Grocer
Mother Margaret Lyerbason (SP)
married
Charlotte Douglas age 21 Spinster
Father Robert Douglas Labourer
Mother Sarah White
Please indulge me on the Crawford connection. I have a lot of MI's and OPRs for the area and am looking through them for the surnames to see if I can figure it out. How certain are you on the g parents and gg parents of Robert Crawford Wood?
In Ayr Auld Kirk there is a intersting MI:
Erected by Robert and Thomas Wood in memory of their bro William d 22 Sep 1867 aged 61. Charlotte Douglas d 10 Aug 1840, Janet McGeachin d 11 Feb 1859. Wives of Robert Wood. Also his children Marion (wife of James Hendrie) d 9 Sep 1869 age 41. And two sons and five daus d young. Also children of Hugh Wood - Mary Gibb d 13 May 1863 aged 4 yr 6 mth. David Moffat d 30 Oct 1863 aged 4 mth. Robert Douglas d 10 Jul 1864 aged 3 yr. MArgaret Kerr d 21 Jun 1872 aged 10.5 mth. The above Robert Wood d 28 May 1875 aged 76. Also Willie d 16 Sep 1880 aged 7 yr 3 mth.
(REVERSE)
In Memory of James D Wood Clothier d 21 Sep 1878 aged 43. Also his twin dau Maggie d 14 Jul 1875 aged 1 mth. ALso of his son James d. 13 Oct 1881 aged 18. Mary Moffat wife of Hugh Wood d 26 Sep 1886 aged 53. ALso the above Hugh Wood d 9 May 1912 aged 78
This may also give you a clue out of the OPR's
578/13 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 01-Jan-1820 to 31-Dec-1854
Mary Good WOOD, Died 05-Jun-1836; Buried 07-Jun-1836; Age 3, Daughter of Robert Wood, dyer. Additional information :- Cause of death given - Fever
578/13 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 01-Jan-1820 to 31-Dec-1854
WOOD, formerly residing in Main Street, Newton, Died 18-Sep-1845; Buried 18-Sep-1845; Son of Robert Wood. Additional information :- Cause of death given - Still born
578/13 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 01-Jan-1820 to 31-Dec-1854
William WOOD, formerly residing in Newton, Died 02-Feb-1836; Buried 04-Feb-1836; Age 67, . Additional information :- Cause of death given - Decay of nature; Occupation details - Dyer & renovator of clothes
578/13 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 01-Jan-1820 to 31-Dec-1854
Cath. WOOD, {a.k.a. MCDONALD:}, Died 01-Apr-1828; Buried 04-Apr-1828; Age 55, Wife of Wm Wood, dyer. Additional information :- Cause of death given - Consumption
578/13 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 01-Jan-1820 to 31-Dec-1854
William WOOD, formerly residing in Newton, Died 02-Feb-1836; Buried 04-Feb-1836; Age 67, . Additional information :- Cause of death given - Decay of nature; Occupation details - Dyer & renovator of clothes
If the above William Wood who would be Robert Crawford's grandfather was born in Ayr, there is only one record that could match .
William Wood b 06 Aug 1769 Father Thomas Wood mother Marion Love
578/13 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 01-Jan-1820 to 31-Dec-1854
Charlotte DOUGLAS, {a.k.a. WOOD:}, Died 09-Sep-1840; Buried 11-Sep-1840; Age 42, Wife of Robert Woods,a dyer. Additional information :- Cause of death given - Dropsy
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Hi,LL
Thanks again. I know that Robert Crawford Woods grand parents were William Wood and Catherine Mc Donald because it said on his fathers death details, but on his mothers side i only know what it said on the IGI Pedegree resourse files for Robert Crawford Wood. Thanks for the M I,s Concerning Robert and Hugh. I did not know that Robert had any Brothers all i had were Jean Alexander Bows Wood Born about 1808, Catherine Wood born about 1814,Also Jane Alexander Wood born about 1816 to William and Catherine and i don,t know anything about them at all.
Regards
Scully
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There were a lot more OPR's when I was going through them last night for Wood. Because these dates are all pre census that is about all you have to go on other than MI's. If you wish me to continue looking through the OPR's and MI's It would be no problem now that I have dug them out. Just let me know area , name and approx dates. If you can break it down by family it really helps. I can also do a broad search for surnames and let you figure out the pieces :)
In that time frame and area there were the following:
Parents William Wood and Agnes Smith
09 Dec 1804 James Wood, Tarbolton
26 Feb 1807 William Wood, Tarbolton, Ayr
28 Jul 1811 John Wood, Loudon, Ayr
17 Apr 1814 John Wood, Loudon, Ayr
15 Mar 1818 Agnes Wood, Loudoun Ayr
08 Jul 1821 David Wood, Loudon, Ayr
18 Apr 1824 Francis Wood, Loudon, ayr
Parents William Wood and Margaret Thomson
15 June 1817 Thomas Wood, West Kilbride
21 Mar 1820 William Wood, West Kilbride, Ayr
14 Oct 1821 Agness Wood, Largs, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Sally Linch
02 Feb 1823 Agness Wood born Maybole, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Ann Hunter Kennedy
14 June 1821 Ann Hunter Wood Ayr, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Catharine MacDougal
19 Mar 1810 Hugh Wood, Newton on Ayr
28 June 1812 Thomas Affleck Wood, Newton on Ayr
20 June 1814 Catherine Wood St. Quivox, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Wilhelmina Walkingshaw
16 May 1823 Elizabeth Wood, Kilmarnock, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Agness Lamont
14 June 1825 Elizabeth Wood, Largs, Ayr
22 Aug 1821 Helen Wood, Largs Ayr
07 Jun 1823 Sarrah Wood Largs, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Margaret Kennedy
08 June 1817 William Wood, Ayr, Ayr
16 May 1819 Hugh Kennedy Wood, Ayr Ayr
25 Jan 1824 Margaret Graham Wood, Ayr, Ayr
Parents William Wood and Catherine McDonald
23 Aug 1808 Jean Alexander Wood, Newton on Ayr
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HI,LL,
Any thing on Peter Hendry/ Mary Monaghan(Madden), also Charles Hill/Mary Cameron. And the names Douglas and Mills. Could you look to see if James Mills and Marion Wilson are in the 1901 cenus. I have them in the 1891 Cenus in Newton on Ayr with 2 Grandsons James Mills aged 9 and John Mills aged 6 but i Don,t Know who,s Children they are. If you have time could you look for the marriages of James and Marions Daughters, Jane Mills b, 14/1/1869/ Margaret Mills b, 26/2/1856, Agnes Mills b, 17/7/1866 and Isabella Mills b, 17/5/1860
Regards
Scully
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I will break this last request into sections. First:
Could you look to see if James Mills and Marion Wilson are in the 1901 cenus. I have them in the 1891 Cenus in Newton on Ayr with 2 Grandsons James Mills aged 9 and John Mills aged 6 but i Don,t Know who,s Children they are.
The only James Mills that fits the age range was:
Birth Cert 17 Dec 1881 Newton Ayr
James Carson Mills
73 Main Street Newton Ayr
Father Robert Mills House Painter Journeyman
Mother Isabella Mills MS Carson married 28 Dec 1846 Kilmarnock
There is only on John Mills that fits the age range as well:
Birth Cert 19 May 1885
John Campbell Mills Illigitimate
100 Main Street Newton Ayr
Mother Marion Mills Domestic Servant
I found nothing on the 1901 census
THe 1881 Census has:
79 Main Street Newton on Ayr
James Mills Head married 48 carter born Ayr, Ayr
Marion Mills Wife 47 born Newton on Ayr
Susan Mills Daughter 10 Scholar born Newton on Ayr
I also have another Marion Mills that could be their daughter:
10 Beresford Terrace
Ambrose Bara head 31 Artist and Photographer born England
Lily Bara wife 30 born England
Mary Manning Wifes Cousin 20 Photrgaphers Assistant born England
Marion Mills Servant 20 Gener Domestic Servant Born Newton, Ayr
William White Father in Law Widowed age 70 born England
I did find a son for James Mills and Marion Wilson:
Robert Mills born 25 Dec 1853 Newton on Ayr
Robert Lawful son to James Mills and Marion Wilson was born on the 10th and baptised 25 December
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Hi, LL,
Thanks again for all the trouble you are taking.
Regards
Scully
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Hi,LL
I managed to get the deaths of James Mills and Marion Wilson. I sent to the Registery office, they died in 1905/1906. Their Parents were Robert Wilson and Margaret Spiers, And John Wilson to Margharet Cruickshank. I Think i found Robert Mills and Margaret Spiers in the 1841 Freecenus, if its the right ones it looks they also came from Ireland . Can,t seem to get away from Ireland.
Regards
Scully
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Hello Scully, and LL,
Great thread you both have going here well done.
Scully your last post, should it not read parents, Robert Mills, and Margaret Spiers. If that is so have a little information on them.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Hi John,
Thats right it is Robert Mills and Margaret Spiers my mistake. Are you related to them.
Regards
Sculy
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Hello Scully,
No not related, you said that you think you found Robert Mills, and Margaret Spiers, on the 1841. census, was that the couple living Mill Street, and Robert, is 45 Years, and a Carter, if so i also think this is them.
There are no births on the IGI. that i can see for this couple, there is however one birth on Scotlandspeople, and its the first child from the marriage, John Mills, born 28/Nov/1829, St. Quivox, Ayr.
This fits in with this census, also the couple were married there 1828.
When you move on to the 1851. census, Robert, and Margaret, are still in Ayr, address 306 High Street,
Mills Robert, Head. M. M. age 56 years, Carter, Born Ireland,
Mills Margaret, Wife, M. F. age 50 years, born Ireland,
Mills Robert, Son, age 12 years, Carter, born Ayr, Ayrshire,
Mills George, Son, age 10 years, Scholar, born Ayr, Ayrshire.
Because the family only registered one birth John, there is a wee clue to link them to your family, the son George, aged 10 years.
By 1861, this George, aged 20 years is living with what i think is your James Mills, and his wife Marion Wilson.
The 1861. Census Index, shows,
Mills James, age 28 years, Ayr, Newton on Ayr,
Mills Marion, age 30 years, Ayr, Newton on Ayr,
Mills George, age 20 years, Ayr, Newton on Ayr,
Mills Robert, age 7 years, Ayr, Newton on Ayr,
Mills Margaret, age 4 years, Ayr, Newton on Ayr,
Mills Elizabeth, age 3 years, Ayr, Newton on Ayr,
Mills Isabella, age 1 year, Ayr, Newton on Ayr.
This of course is only the index and does not give relationships, you would have to check the original census to see the relationship of those on it, but there is no other George Mills, that age or near it in the whole of Ayrshire, in 1861.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Hi John,
Thanks for the information it all fits.
Regards
Scully
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John Mills was born 28 Nov 1829 St. Quivox, Ayr parents Robert Mills and Margaret Spiers
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Hi, LL,
Thanks, Any chance of finding the death of Mary Moffat"nee" Gibb after 1857 she was married to David Moffat a Seaman who died before 1857 which perhaps is to early to find. Also the marriage of
John Brackenridge to Marion Wright, They had a son Daniel in about 1879. Also the marriage of a Waistel Cooper to i think a Margaret/ Isabella/ Agnes or Jane Mills after about 1872 as on their mothers Marion Mills death certificate it says present was Waistel Cooper, son in law.
Regards Scully
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Mary Moffat Death Cert 5 June1869 Ayr
Mary Moffat age 80 Widow of David Moffat Master Mariner
Main Street Newton AYr
Father William Gibb weaver (dead)
Mother Margaret Gibb MS REID (Dead)
Witness Hugh Werx (sp)??
Son in Law
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Marriage Cert 16 Aug 1876 Ayr
John Brackenridge age 23 grocer Bachelor Craigie Terrace St Quivox
Father William BRackenridge Grocer
Motehr Margaret Brackenridge MS Roxburgh (deaceased)
married
Marion Wright age 18 Spinster 166 High Street Ayr
Father David Wright Baker (deceased)
Mother Mary WRight MS Donaldson
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I found John And MArion on the 1891 census - they had more than 1 son!
11-13 High Street
John Brackenridge Head age 38 grocer born Ayrshire, Maybole
Marion S W Brackenridge age 35 Restauranteur born Ayr
William Son age 14 Grocer born Ayr
John Son age 12 Scholar born Ayr
Daniel W son age 10 Scholar born ayr
Gilbert son age 7 Scholar born Ayr
Hugh G son age 5 born Ayr
Violet dau age 3 born Ayr
Arthur C J C B son age 1 born ayr
Maggie Rollie age 18 Domestic Servant born Ayr
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26 Aug 1881 Mariage Cert Waistel Cooper to Margaret Mill
Waistel Cooper age 26 Joiner Journeyman
6 John Street St Quivox
Father Hodgson Cooper Groom
Mother Elizabeth Cooper MS Willis
married
Margaret Mill age 25 Domestic Servant
Carston House ? Park Ayr
Father James Mills Carter
Mother Marion Mills MS Wilson
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HiI LL,
Thanks once again for getting me so much information. If its possible could you look for the deaths of John Douglas Hendrie and his wife Margaret Brown Hendrie "nee" Young, they married in 1903 and had 8 Children the last one in 1922 Limonds Wynd, Ayr. Also the marriage of George Balmer to Alice Good, they had a son William born about 1863.
Regards
Scully
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The deaths for John Douglas Hendrie and Margaret Brown Hendrie you would have to order based on when they were married it would be too late for the records.
Marriage Cert New Monkland Landward, Lanark 8 Oct 1858
George Balmer age 23 Cottier
Father James Balmer Labourer
Mother Elizabeth Littelwood? Deceased
married
Alson Good age 17
Father David Good
Mother Isabel Strachen
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HI, LL
Thanks again. would you be able to find the death of David Moffat, he died before 1869 and was married to Mary Gibb. Also the marriage of Elizabeth Scullion to John Higgins 1856, Ayr.
Elizabeth Wood to James Sloan in 1864, Ayr
Regards
Scully
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When was David born so I can narrow it down?
I found nothing for ELizabeth Scullion as a marriage. I did find a John Higgins and Elizabeth Wood Ay 1856 KIlmarnock
Marriage Cert 1864
James Sloan age 32 labourer bachelor
Strand Street
Father John Sloan Labourere dead
mother Elizabeth Sloan MS McLellan dead
married
Elizabeth Woods age 30 Knitter Spinster
Father John Woods Muslin weaver
Mother Jean Woods MS Lammie dead
Witness David Landsborough
witness John RIchmond
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Hi, LL
Thanks for trying, I have no idea when David Moffat was born. I can,t find his family on the 1841 or 1851 cenus . All i know is he was a Master Mariner married to Mary Gibb in July 1818 in Ayr. I have just checked Mary his daughters marriage of 1857 and it says he was deceased then. I Have no idea
how many were in his family. Could you find the birth of John Douglas Hendrie about 1880 and the marriage of his parents a John Hendrie and Mary McAvoy.
Regards
Scully
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Here is everything I found on Moffat that may or may not be connected:
1794 David Moffate son of John Moffate weaver and Janet Lockie his spouse was born 1794 bapt by Robison ?? Minister Kilmarnock
It does not list the date of birth. I suspect he was born out of wedlock but they got married to have him baptised possibly? This is in the Opr’s between April 3 and April 21 so the baptism date would be between these.
I also found another son to the John Moffate above:
578/9 Old Parochial Register - Ayr -- From 1-Mar-1766 to 31-May-1820
Robert MOFFATE, Died 18-Oct-1793; Age 1y4m, Son of John Moffate (weaver). Additional information :- Cause of death given - small pox
And Moffat in Kilmarnock
597 Laigh Ch Kirk Sess NAS - Kilmarnock -- From 16-Oct-1783 to 31-Dec-1799
Margaret MOFFAT, Died 30-Oct-1797; Age 2, . Additional information :- Cause of death given - scarlet fever
In Ayr Auld Kirk is this headstone which may just confuse matters or be a clue for you?
Erected by Robert and Thomas Wood in memory of their bro William d 22 Sep 1867 aged 61. Charlotte Douglas d 10 Aug 1840. Janet McGeachin d. 11 feb 1859. Wives of Robert Wood. Also his children Marion (wife of James Hendrie) d 9 Sep 1869 age 41. And two sons and five daus d young. Also children of Hugh Wood – Mary Gibb d. 13 May 1863 aged 4 yr 6 mth; David Moffat d 30 Oct 1863 aged 4 mth. Robert Douglas d 10 Jul 1864 aged 3 yrs; Margaret Kerr d 21 June 1872 aged 10.5 mnth. The above Robert Wood d 28 May 1875 aged 76. Also Willie d 16 Sep 1880 aged 7yr 3 mth.
Reverse
In Memory of James D Wood Clothier d 21 Sept 1878 aged 43. Also his twin dau Maggie d 14 Jul 1875 aged 1 mth. Also of his son James d. 13 Oct 1881 aged 18. Mary Moffat wife of Hugh Wood d 26 Sep 1886 aged 53. Also the above Hugh Wood d 9 May 1912 aged 78
..and this
Glasgow Advertiser 1789:
Extract of a letter from a Cost Officer at Cloughy, to the Collector of the Port of Irvine, dated Jan 15: “…loss of the sloop Elizabeth of Irvine, John Auld, master , from Liverpool, in ballast, on Tuesday morning the 13th, off the Green Isle, within the district of Strangford, county of Downe, in a heavy gale, in which was lost the master, and James Boyd, James Guthrie and Gavin Moffat, mariners. One man named James Willock saved himself by: swimming….”
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Birth Cert 9 Nov 1879 :
John McAvoy Douglas Hendrie
34 Weaver Street Newton Ayr
Father John Hendrie Carter
Mother Margaret Hendrie MS McAvoy
married 15 Dec St Quivox
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No marraige cert to be found for John Hendrie and Mary or Margaret McAvoy. The above post should say they were married in 1876
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HI, LL
Thanks for trying on the Moffats. The Auld Kirk headstone is all mine and it gives me a bit more information on the families that i did,nt have. Is there any chance you could find the births of any other children for John Hendrie and Margaret McAvoy or their deaths.
Regards
Scully
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Hi, LL
I forgot to ask in my other post could you check the marriage of Elizabeth Wood to John Higgins in Kilmarnock to see if her parents were a Robert Wood /Charlotte Douglas as i am trying to find Elizabeths marriage she was born in 1830.
Regards
Scully
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Hi Skully,
Have not found any more children as of yet for John Douglas Hendrie and Margaret, but in the 1881 census they live at 88 Cross Street St Quivox and there is a Ann Hendrie with daughters Mary age 14 and Bella age 11 at 41 Cross Street.
I found another interesting MI as well:
John Murdoch C.E. Ayr in memory of his father James Murdoch Merchant in Ayr d 23 Oct 1860 and his mother Elizabeth Hendrie d 12 Oct 1848. And of their children James d 21 Jun 1819 and Elizabeth wife of Lt Colonel James Wyllie 45th Madras Native Infantry d at Tallewarsall in India 4 Oct 1837. Here also is int Margaret Wilson who for upwards of 50 years was the faithful and devoted servant of the family. She d 10 Jan 1867
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Hi, LL
Thanks again. Crawford seems to have popped its head up again, When i was Checking through my tree i realised on the marriage 1876 of Isabella Carson to Robert mills it said her mother was Mary Campbell but on her death 1889 it said her mother was Marion Crawford. Isabella was born about 1855, would it be possible to find her Birth. Could you also find the marriage of Richard Harold Townsend to Margaret Dickson Scullion before 1932. and the marriage of Hugh Dillon and Elizabeth Corbet, they had a daughter born about 1873.
Regards
Scully
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Hi,LL
Forgot to say that Isabellas father was James Carson.
Regards
Scully
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Isabella Carson is an interesting one. I found no birth cert for her under any mother.
I did find a marriage cert for James Carson and Marion Crawford Nov 18 1838 Penninghame Wigtown
The 1841 Census shows
1841 Penninghame/Wigtown
James Carson head age 40
Margaret age 40
Hellen 15
Agnes 11
Mary 5
James 3
The 1851 Census Penninghame Wigtown
James Carson age 52 grocer Merchant
Mary Carson age 37 Merchants wife
?? Carson son age 10
Sarah Carson daughter age 9
?? Carson son age 7
William Carson son age 4
Ellen Carson age 6 months
No birth certs for any of the children to be found
Marion 2
In the 1851 Census there are 5 James Carson all in Wigtown with seperate families
I then tried to find the other children's brith certs and found James in Wigtown Father James Carson mother Margaret McDowall
Marion birth Cert shows father James Carson mother Grace Muir
So either the certs I found are not from your James Carson or he went through a lot of wives.
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Marriage cert 1931
Richard Harold Townsend age 27 Jockey (National Hunt) bachelor
of 7 Craigie Avenue Ayr
Father James Townsend Coal miner deceased
Mother Ann Townsend MS BALL deceased
married
Margaret Dickson Scullion age 21 Shorthand Typist Spinster
of 7 Craigie Avenue Ayr
Father James Scullion Horse Trainer deceased
Mother Isabella Walker Scullion MS COPELAND
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the marriage of Elizabeth Wood to John Higgins in Kilmarnock
I found the death cert for Elizabeth Wood
31 March 1908
52 Mill streeet Ayr
Elizabeth Higgins age 72
Married to John Higgins Shoemaker
Father James Wood shoemaker deceased
Mother Mary Wood MS Moffat deceased
witness daughter Elizabeth M Sauchlan (sp) daughter
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Marriage cert 1 Nov 1872 Ayr
Hugh Dillon age 30 Coal Miner
residence Tarbolton
Father Terrence Dillon Coal miner deceased
Mother Sarah Dillon ms Judge deceased
married
Elizabeth Corbett age 25 Sewer Spinster
252 High Street AYr
Father Roland Corbett Hostler Deceased
mother Jane Corbett MS NEILSON
witness James Streathern
witness John Sinclair
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Hi, LL
Thanks again for the info. Regarding Isabella Carson, on her marriage in 1876 it said her father was a grocer and that her mother Mary Campbell was dead. On her death in 1889 She was living in Perth and it said her father was a Tea merchant and her mother Marion Crawford was also dead and that it was reg; by a John Mc Dowall a brother in law.So perhaps James did marry a few times. Could you look for the death of Robert Gemmell married to Catherine Niven, He was a Fisherman and i think he died between 1871 and 1880. The marriage of Janet Scullion around 1872, parents James Scullion and Margaret Brown. the marriage of James Sheridan and Ann Connelly, they had a son James Sheridan About 1882.
Regards
Scully
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Hi Scully, it will take me some time before I can get these look ups done. Hope someone else sees this and helps out.
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Hi,LL
Dont worry about the other look ups I,m so grateful for all the information you got for me. You managed to find me some information i could not find and much more than i expected. So thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Scully