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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Completed Lookups => Topic started by: tilly56 on Monday 25 February 08 17:35 GMT (UK)
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Help Please!
I have had a few threads going to help me build a surprise family tree for an elderly aunt. It is nearly finished - but I am stuck on Alice Harpell, who is one of her grandmothers.
I know that :
She was born in Penarth, Glamorgan in 1869 (I have this from the 1891 English census - Class: RG12; Piece: 2032; Folio 64; Page 17; )
I also have her in the 1891 Welsh census - Class: RG13; Piece: 4936; Folio: 116; Page: 30. - staying with her husband's uncle, William Jordan, in Abertillery.
She married Alfred Jordan in Swansea in 1887.
......and that is all!
I would like to be able to add her parents to the tree - I have found an "Allias Harpell" (I don't think this name can be correct - I imagine it should be Alice....) in the 1881 Wales census, born in Penarth - Class: RG11; Piece: 5289; Folio: 34; Page: 64; - living in 28 Plassey St - the father, Peter, is American. The mother's name is Elizabeth. - could this be her??
I cannot find her any earlier - I would be very grateful if someone could undo this knot for me - Is the Allias Harpell mentioned above "my" Alice............ if not, who are her parents - and where are they all before 1881. ??? ???
Many thanks for any help
Tilly :)
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Hi Tilly,
I agree she must be the Allias.
There's a marriage for Peter Harpell in Jun 1863 West Derby. It's indexed as 8b 752 on FreeBMD but I think the actual page is 732 - which unfortunately doesn't show an Elizabeth :(
:)
Checking the complete index there is an Elizabeth Pinnington indeed on the same page 8)
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There's nothing on either the Welsh or English 1871 census
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per www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863
HARPELL Peter PINNINGTON Elizabeth Toxteth Park, St. John The Baptist Liverpool 2108TP/5/160
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Snap Carole 8) ;D
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There's a Mary Ellen Harpell, "daughter of Peter Harpill" age 4 born Liverpool on the 1871 census for Penarth, visiting a Smith family. RG10/5368 24 41
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Peter is at Huskisson Dock on Board the Wonder in 1871 RG10/3830 68
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Hello Tati and Carole
Thank you SO much - you really are brilliant!! :-*
Now I shall see if I can get back a bit further.
Thank you again for your help.
Tilly :D
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Hello Tati
I saw your correction! thanks again.
I'm busy filling in all the info on the tree at the moment!
I'd like to find out more about Peter's origins - should I start a new thread? :-\
Tilly
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I'd like to find out more about Peter's origins - should I start a new thread? :-\
I'd start one on the Canada board :D
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There's a submitted birth on the IGI for a Peter Harpell in Nova Scotia but the age is a bit out - birth 1824. Would be useful to get a marriage look-up or marriage cert I suppose!
I found a tree for the 1824 chap
http://www.gidley.ca/phpgedview/phpGedView-4.0.2-all/individual.php?pid=I2510&ged=BryanGidley.ged
('proches parents' gives siblings)
:)
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Hello Tati
Thank you very much for the replies.
I shall start a thread on the Canada board. The family tree is very interesting.......it would be great if it was the right Peter!- all the work done already.... ;D I shall see if I can make a link somewhere.
Tilly :)