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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: meggiemoo3 on Thursday 13 March 08 15:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Can anyone help? My great grandfather, Joseph Taylor, born Holbeach, 1847ish married 3 times - the third time to my great grandmother, Ann Eliza Harrison.
What I'm trying to find out is when he married each of his previous wives. His first wife was called Mary Ann (1845ish) and he married her in either 1868 or 1870. Mary died, in childbirth in 1877.
His second marriage was to Ellen, who was born in Whaplode Drove about 1857. He either married her in 1876 or 1879. I suspect that the 1879 is the correct one.
I have found marriage entries for these dates but am not sure which are the correct ones - of course both of them may be correct. Not knowing the maiden names for Mary or Ellen I can't search for a corresponding entry for them.
Does anyone have access to any parish records or IGI info that would clarify which marriage is my Joseph.
There were 2 Joseph's born in this period in Holbeach. My Joseph was born to Tuckney Taylor and Rebecca Watson.
Thank you in advance.
Melanie
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The marriage of Joseph in 1879 gives a brides name on the same page as Ellen Carr. There is a birth in 1857 for an Ellen Carr in Spalding reg district.
of interest is the marriage in 1868 in Holbeach as that was to a Mary Ann CARR .
Tazzie
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possibly the first marriage to mary ann is the Dec qtr 1868 marriage
1871 census describes mary A as age 26 b Whaplode
1851 census has
East fenn Moulton lincs
Mary A Carr wife M 28 ag lab's wife Holbeach Linc
Sarah A daughter 7 Whaplode
MARY A daughter 6 Whaplode Lincs
Betsey daughter 4 Whaplode
John T son 1 Moulton
HO107 2096 733 6
you can search the IGI free at familysearch
Suz
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Hi
BIVRI gives the marriage of Joseph to Mary Ann Carr at Whaplode 18/11/1868
Joseph's father Tuckney
Mary Anns father John
Rosie
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Now this is interesting
if Joseph married Ellen carr -then she was possibly the sister of mary Ann
also her mother possibly married Joseph's father!!!!!!
1871
Mill Gate Whaplode
Tuckney taylor head M 60 ag lab Kirton lincs
Mary wife 49 Holbeach
John Carr wife's son u 21 Ag lab Moulton Lincs
martha Carr wife's daughter 17 ag lab Moulton
ELLEN CARR wife's daghter 13 ag lab moulton
Charles H taylor son 4m?age difficlt t read) Holbeach
William Finch lodger U 23 ag lab Yeldham essex?
Thomas phoenix Lodger U 21 ag lab Kirton lincs
RG10 3332 40 2
suz
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Mary Ann Carr bapt 23 March 1845 Whaplode
father John Carr
mother Mary Ann
sibling Elizabeth 25 April 1847 Whaplode
Tazzie
If he married Mary Anns sister it was illegal at that time mind you didn't stop some of mine.
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Ellen Car ......bapt Whaplode Drove 30 Aug 1857
father John
mother Mary
Tazzie
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marriage FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1864
Holbeach
on same page
mary Ann carr
Tuckney taylor
7a 757
Suz
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hi
And if you are interested also at Whaplode with father Tuckney Taylor were these marriages
14/7/1862 George/Charlotte Ling -father George
24/12/1860 Alice age 19/William Hunt father William
15/5/1858 Rebecca age 22/ Joseph Scruton Attenborough age 24 father Richard.
Rosie
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So let me get this right....
Tuckney married Mary Ann Carr after the death of Rebecca who died pre 1861.
His son Joseph married his step sister Mary Ann in 1868 who died in childbirth in 1877. He then marries Mary's sister and his step-sister, Ellen Carr in 1879.
Blimey - he was supposed to be a travelling reverend for the Baptist church so my dad was led to believe.
Of course then he married my great grandmother Ann Eliza Harrison in 1899, so I guess Ellen must have died sometime before then.
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1861 Whaplode RG9 /2330 F 78 P 2
John Carr hd m 41 shepherd Walpole St Peter Norfolk
Mary Ann wi m 38 Holbeach
Elizabeth dau u 14 Whaplode
John Thos son u 11 labourer Moulton
William son u 8 scholar d/o
Martha dau u 6 scholar d/o
ELLEN DAU U 3 D/O
Tazzie
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Thanks everyone for all that information.
What was it illegal - to marry a step-sister or your wife's sister?
Surely it wouldn't have mattered if Mary Ann was dead?
Melanie
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You were not allowed to marry dead wifes sister.
It was illegal from Sept 1835... parliment passed the Deceased wifes Sister marriage Act in 1907 . In 1921 an act was passed to allow a widow to marry her deceased husbands brother.
So my great x 3 grandparents broke the law to marry ,one in a small village and nothing was done at the time.
Tazzie
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Thanks for that! And to think my great grandfather was a lay preacher of some description too!
What a naughty boy!!
Melanie