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Title: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Saturday 29 March 08 22:14 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help me to find more information regaring my ggg grandfather and his family i got this information from his sons b certificate,i am looking for any information about james mason muir married to margaret reid.date of marriage 10.12.1848. their son was james mckinnon muir b 1849 in ayr.died 15.7.1900.
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 29 March 08 23:12 GMT (UK)
Hi

What was his fathers occupation on his birth cert?

The 1851 has James jnr living with relatives - no parents

1851 for Irvine - all b Irvine

Jane Jaffrey 40 
George Jaffrey 10 
Agnes Jaffrey 8 
Mary Jaffrey 5 
Robert Jaffrey 1 
James Muir 1  nephew 

1861 for Ayr - all b Ayr unless shown otherwise.   

237 High St Ayr

John Reid 63   
Sarah Reid 62  b Ireland
James Muir 38  brother in law - stone mason
James Muir 12  nephew
Jannett Muir 10  niece
John Muir 8  nephew
Agnes Reid 39  daughter
Thomas Rodger 63  boarder b Ireland
Sarah McFadden 3  niece b Culton Ayrshire
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 02:42 BST (UK)
hi sorry for late reply was having to check that information it was not from james's b certificate i got that information on his parents it was by checking his parents  through his marriage and i do not have any iformation regarding them other than they must have been in ayr in 1849 when james junior was born, james junior was a butcher.he was baptised on 06.05.1849,
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 14:36 BST (UK)
James could not read or write nor could his wife according to their marriage cert,because both signed a + between their first and last name on the cert it has james moore not muir as spelling of surname same applies for james snr and his job was a mason ,their son was born malcolm m'kenzi muir in campbeltown 0n 27.2.1882,
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: alicook on Sunday 30 March 08 15:12 BST (UK)
Quote from: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 14:36 BST (UK)
James could not read or write nor could his wife according to their marriage cert,because both signed a + between their first and last name on the cert it has james moore not muir as spelling of surname same applies for james snr and his job was a mason ,their son was born malcolm m'kenzi muir in campbeltown 0n 27.2.1882,

Hi Katrina,

I beleive this is them in 1851!

MOORE   James   Head   M   M   30   Mason    Ireland - -       
MOORE   Margaret   Wife   M   F   28       Ayrshire - Ayr       
MOORE   James   Son   U   M   1       Ayrshire - Ayr     


Alison
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: alicook on Sunday 30 March 08 15:26 BST (UK)
Quote from: CaroleW on Saturday 29 March 08 23:12 GMT (UK)
Hi

What was his fathers occupation on his birth cert?

The 1851 has James jnr living with relatives - no parents

1851 for Irvine - all b Irvine

Jane Jaffrey 40 
George Jaffrey 10 
Agnes Jaffrey 8 
Mary Jaffrey 5 
Robert Jaffrey 1 
James Muir 1  nephew 

1861 for Ayr - all b Ayr unless shown otherwise.   

237 High St Ayr

John Reid 63   
Sarah Reid 62  b Ireland
James Muir 38  brother in law - stone mason
James Muir 12  nephew
Jannett Muir 10  niece
John Muir 8  nephew
Agnes Reid 39  daughter
Thomas Rodger 63  boarder b Ireland
Sarah McFadden 3  niece b Culton Ayrshire


Hi,

I am guessing the family Carol has found in 1861 is yours ..I think you will find that there is a death on SP for a Margaret Muir 1860-1861.It could well be yours.

It looks like James had two siblings!

Cheers Alison  :)
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 15:29 BST (UK)
thanks
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: alicook on Sunday 30 March 08 15:36 BST (UK)
Quote from: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 15:29 BST (UK)
thanks


I take it you could view the census & Marriage ok ?

Alison
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 15:38 BST (UK)
sorry ali , i sincerely appoligise for not thanking you , yes i managed fine.kind regards katrina :)
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 16:22 BST (UK)
sorry to keep bothering you ali, i downloaded margarets death cert,but i cannot understand how james would have been john and sarah reids brother-in-law and how the others were his nieces and nephews and not his children, margaret did die in 1961 of consumption.
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: alicook on Monday 31 March 08 02:56 BST (UK)
Quote from: katrina42 on Sunday 30 March 08 16:22 BST (UK)
sorry to keep bothering you ali, i downloaded margarets death cert,but i cannot understand how james would have been john and sarah reids brother-in-law and how the others were his nieces and nephews and not his children, margaret did die in 1961 of consumption.

Hi Katrina,

On Margaret's death Cert who does it say Margaret Reids parents were? Was it Sarah & John?


This is Sarah & John in 1851 living next door to James & Margaret.

 235 High Street Ayr

 
 
    Surname   First name(s)   Rel   Status   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    REID   John   Head   M   M   51   Carter    Wigtownshire - -       
    REID   Sarah   Wife   M   F   53       Ireland - -       
    REID   Mary   Dau   U   F   18   Seamstress    Ayrshire - Ayr


And this could be them in 1841......Age ouy for Mary! :-\

Address: High St

~~~~~~~~
 
    Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    REID   John   M   40   Carter    Outside Census County (1841)       
    REID   Sarah   F   40       Ayrshire       
    REID   Agnes   F   15   Sewer    Ayrshire       
    REID   Sarah   F   9       Ayrshire       
    REID   Isabella   F   7       Ayrshire       
    REID   Mary   F   4       Ayrshire




Alison

Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Monday 31 March 08 18:14 BST (UK)
yes it does say that they were the parents  :)
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: alicook on Tuesday 01 April 08 04:49 BST (UK)
Quote from: katrina42 on Monday 31 March 08 18:14 BST (UK)
yes it does say that they were the parents  :)

Hi,

Yes I to had a certificate like that...saying they were niece's and nephews when they should have been Grandchildren! I guess they couldn't write so wouldn't perhaps know what was written.

Alison
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: katrina42 on Sunday 27 April 08 21:38 BST (UK)
thought i would let you know thew reason i couldn't find james was because he re married again.regards katrina
Title: Re: muir family roots in ayr
Post by: alicook on Monday 28 April 08 01:50 BST (UK)

Thanks for that Katrina...glad you got it sorted.

I had seen some of your posts on TS.

Alison