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Title: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Wednesday 16 April 08 19:40 BST (UK)
i wonder if you wouldnt mind looking up william stables he was the father of myles or miles stables  d.o.b 1806 place urswick cumberland at that time i think it was part of lancashire, i have looked at some parish records and found a william stables 1776c but not sure if he his the father of william any information would be recieved with thanks, i think william,s wife was called mary
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: mgt.37 on Wednesday 16 April 08 21:04 BST (UK)
Hello,
I have looked in the Parish Regs. for Urswick 1696--1837 and I could only find an entry for Miles son of Wm. Stable, waller and Jane of LU (Little Urswick) Miles born March 13th baptised April 6th 1806. This couple did have more children but this was the only Miles.

There was another family named Stable living at Great Urswick, they were Richard and wife Margaret.
Hope this helps.  Mgt 37
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Wednesday 16 April 08 21:19 BST (UK)
wm stable so the surname changed because under miles its stables thank you mmmm tricky one because theres a babtism of a  daughter of william stable the mother was mary dixon tricky eh i wonder if this is the same wm stable thank you  :)
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Wednesday 16 April 08 21:34 BST (UK)
i wonder could this be him
Baptisms: 25 Jan 1784 All Saints, Satterthwaite, Lancashire, England
William Stable - Son of Henry Stable & Mary (Dixon)
    Born: 26 Dec 1783
    Abode: Grathwaite Field Head
    Occupation: Woodcutter
    Notes: [Father is] Son of William Stable of Eskdale, Cumberland, Husbandman, by
    Notes: Susannah his wife [Mother is] Daughter of Jonathan Dixon of Windermere in Westmorland,
    Notes: farrier, by Sarah his wife
    Register: Baptisms 1766 - 1812 from the Bishop's Tramscripts, Page 18, Entry 5
    Source: LDS Film 1040306

Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Thursday 17 April 08 09:37 BST (UK)
do you have any information on the person below
 his Birth Year <1847> 
    Birthplace Torver, Lancashire, England 
    Age 34 
    Occupation Iron Miner 
    Marital Status M <Married> 
    Head of Household Thos. STABLES
    Relation

mother and father would be nice
thanks again i know his son is my great grandfather thomas stables any help at all would be greatfull thank you again
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: bobgraham on Thursday 17 April 08 20:24 BST (UK)
Freebmd has a Thomas Stables registered Q4 1847 Ulverstone 25 p 1_5. The underscore means the number is not clear but if you apply for the birth certificate with the above information, mother and father will be on certificate. You probably need to check whether torner would be in the ulverstone registration district at that time.
bob
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Thursday 17 April 08 20:32 BST (UK)
THANK YOU BOB I WILL SEND FOR THOMAS STABLES BIRTH CERT
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Thursday 17 April 08 20:41 BST (UK)
The page number is 185
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 17 April 08 22:07 BST (UK)
1851 Cencus-Urswick
HO107/2275/18/10
Urswick Much

All b Urswick except young Thomas he was b Ulverston

STABLES

Thomas 36 head      Iron Miner
Margaret 35 wife
Ann 12 dau
Richard 8 son
Thomas 3 son

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 12:06 BST (UK)
thank you Jane for your help but its the wrong one,  thomas stables father was a Myles stables he was born miles stable 1806 it had me scratching my head  for some time, until i confirmed it was the same person,
 and with some help from the people on this site they found his father and mother i think i have found there perants as well with checking back into parish records. but thanks again
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 12:29 BST (UK)
do you have any information on the person below
 his Birth Year <1847> 
    Birthplace Torver, Lancashire, England 
    Age 34 
    Occupation Iron Miner 
    Marital Status M <Married> 
    Head of Household Thos. STABLES
    Relation

mother and father would be nice
thanks again i know his son is my great grandfather thomas stables any help at all would be greatfull thank you again

Hi George.....Im confused now LOL!!!!!!!!..You say the info i gave is the wrong family...so are you saying that Thomas age 3 has a father Myles/Miles or is it Thomas Snr who has a father Miles/Myles!!!!!

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 12:34 BST (UK)
Apologies........aplenty..give me a couple of minutes and i will post the correct Family.......... ??? ???

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 12:42 BST (UK)
Here you go George..sorry for the boo boo

1851 Cencus-Ulverston
HO107/2274/430/5
Ellers

STABLE

Myles 45 head b Urswick      Master Miller emp 1 man
Mary 30 wife b Cartmel
Agnes J 7 dau b Torver
Thomas H 5 son b  "
Agnes Crow 15 niece b Cartmel

Hope thats better  8)

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 12:49 BST (UK)
Hi again

There is this marriage

Myles Stables
Dec Q-1842-Ulverston
Vol 25-Page 229

One of the others on page is a

Mary Harrison

Jane

Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 12:53 BST (UK)
 jane are you related to the stables family it is mary harrison who is the wife of myles
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 18 April 08 12:55 BST (UK)
So that will be

Births Mar 1846
STABLE    Thomas Harrison     Ulverston    25   225
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 12:58 BST (UK)
geoff bang on the nail his mother was mary harrison if you have any thing on her it would be a help thanks
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 12:59 BST (UK)
No Im not related George well at least I dont think so although I do have some Lancashire Stables including an Agnes Stables in the 1901 cencus but Ive not yet researched her.

If you want details of your Myles iand Mary in later cencus Ive found them

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 18 April 08 13:05 BST (UK)
The IGI has a submitted entry (beware)

Baptism 20 Feb 1820 Cartmel
Mary HARRISON, dau of John and Mary
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 19:28 BST (UK)
IT LOOKS SUSPECT ON THE BABTISM DATE  TO SAY SHE WAS BORN IN 1813. GEOFF
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 18 April 08 19:40 BST (UK)
IT LOOKS SUSPECT ON THE BABTISM DATE  TO SAY SHE WAS BORN IN 1813. GEOFF

Ah, I was going by what Sisterjane had posted - 30 in 1851  :-

It could be 38 in 1851 and is certainly 48 in 1861, so I guess you're right ... in which case I've no idea :(

No baptisms at Cartmel in that era in the IGI.
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 19:43 BST (UK)
ITS OK WILL HAVE A LOOK LATER THANK GEOFF CERTAILY ADDICTIVE THIS F/HISTORY
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 19:45 BST (UK)
1841 has 2 Mary Harrisons living in Cartmel

Mary b 1821 not b in county-Father George/Mother Mary

Mary 1816 born in county-Father Thomas/Mother Agnes

Jane

Remember ages are could be rounded up/down by 5yrs in this cencus...I never know whether its rounded up or down LOL!!!!

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 18 April 08 19:48 BST (UK)
Mary 1816 born in county-Father Thomas/Mother Agnes

   .... and Mary had children called Thomas and Agnes.

Well spotted!

NB: in 1841, adult ages were supposed to be rounded down - never up.
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 19:50 BST (UK)
MARY WAS BORN IN SEATLE LANCASHIRE 1816 LOOKS A BIT MORE PROMISING LOL
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 19:53 BST (UK)
GEOFF ITS THE MARY  WITH CHILDREN  THOMAS AND AGNES BUT WHO ARE MARYS PERENTS PML
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 19:54 BST (UK)
The cencus image does say Seatle on it..

Jane

Will post details if you havent got access to cenceses!
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 18 April 08 19:59 BST (UK)
1841 Cencus-Cartmel
Seatle

HARRISON

Thomas 65  Farmer
Agness 60
Thomas 40
John 30
Mary 25
Dorothy 20

Jane
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 18 April 08 20:02 BST (UK)
1851 census clearly says Cartmel.

An age given as 25 in the 1841 census indicates a birth between 1810-16.

It was a common thing to name your kids after your parents, which is why I remarked on Mary's children Thomas and Agnes.
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GEORGE SAINT on Friday 18 April 08 20:08 BST (UK)
where they the only two thomas and agnes.    geoff or where there more they are the only two on igi that i could find
Title: Re: stables family
Post by: GeoffE on Friday 18 April 08 20:16 BST (UK)
where they the only two thomas and agnes.    geoff or where there more they are the only two on igi that i could find


They were the only two I could see on the censuses.  I haven't checked IGI.

Apparently, Myles' parents were William and Jane.  I see Agnes's 2nd name was Jane.  Perhaps there was a William who died but really I've no idea.