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Title: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: Ferris Walker BEM on Saturday 26 April 08 10:52 BST (UK)

Hi
I am trying to find any info on my grandmother Mary Welsh (Kelly) born about 1897ish in Portadown and came to Scotland at a very early age,and married James Kelly in 1919.
Her Parents are Hugh Welsh born 1858 and married Hester McNamara born 1861

Any help on any info would be greatfully accepted both past and present

Ferris Walker

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 26 April 08 11:36 BST (UK)

If Hugh and Hester had any children born in Scotland the child's birth certificate should list date and place of parents' marriage.

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: Ferris Walker BEM on Saturday 26 April 08 11:52 BST (UK)

Hi there
I cant find where they where married the only info I have is the Hugh died 1929 Ardrossan Ayrshire and Hester died 1935 also Ardrossan

Ferris

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 26 April 08 13:14 BST (UK)

Were any of Hugh and Hester's children born in Scotland?

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: Ferris Walker BEM on Saturday 26 April 08 13:49 BST (UK)

Hi Again

Hugh Welsh
Parents:  John Welsh  &  Sarah McLaughlin
Birth:  1858
Ireland 
Death:  21 Apr 1929
Ardrossan Ayrshire 
 
Hester McNamara
Parents:  Hugh McNamara  &  Sarah Fitzsimmons
Birth:  1861
, , , Ireland 
Death:  1935
Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland 
       
Name Sex Birth   
John Welsh M 1881 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Hugh Welsh M 20 Apr 1884 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Robert Welsh M 1886 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
James Welsh M 1888 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Sarah Welsh F 1890 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Susan Welsh F 1892 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Hester Welsh F 1894 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Mary Welsh F 1897 in Portadown Ireland   This info was given to me by last remaining Aunt 
William Welsh M 1900 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
Francis Welsh M 1902 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, , Scotland     
 Hope this helps
Ferris

 

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 26 April 08 14:06 BST (UK)

As I said before:

Quote from: aghadowey on Saturday 26 April 08 11:36 BST (UK)

If Hugh and Hester had any children born in Scotland the child's birth certificate should list date and place of parents' marriage.

Thought it was stange that all children except Mary were born in Scotland. 1901 Census for Scotland shows Hugh and Ester (a form of Hester) living in Ardrossan with all children (except Francis born 1902), including Mary, born in Ardrossan. Susan is Susanna and Hester is Ester like the mother.

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: maryderry on Saturday 26 April 08 14:59 BST (UK)

marriage.  HUGH WALSH TO HESTER MCNAMARA 30-4-1880 @ PORTAFERRY R.C. CHURCH,BALLYPHILIP, DOWNPATRICK, DOWN.


                                                                  regards Mary.

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: Ferris Walker BEM on Saturday 26 April 08 15:28 BST (UK)

Thanks very much for this info,I have now found Mary's birth cert on Scottish people.

Any idea where Hugh was born,and any info on his parents John Welsh - Sarah McLaughlin.

Once again many thanks

Ferris

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 27 April 08 12:21 BST (UK)

This might be John Welsh's marriage - there aren't many listed:
24 March 1857
John WELSH to Sophia(!) McLAUGHLIN
Newtownstewart First Presbyterian Church,
Ardstraw,
Strabane,
Co. Tyrone.
So maybe Hugh was born in Co. Tyrone.
RosemaryJoan

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 27 April 08 12:47 BST (UK)

P.S.  Griffiths Valuation of 1851 in Co. Tyrone
Parish of Admstraw
John Walsh
John Walsh Jr. - note spelling here
Newtownstewart Townland
also
Hugh McLaughlin,Legnabraid Townland

Do you think there is a connection?
If so perhaps Hugh was baptised in Newtownstewart Presbyterian Church.
However
Found this on LDS
birth
30 Aug. 1870, Londonderry
Margaret Anne Welsh to
John Welsh and Sophia McLaughlin
RosemaryJoan

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 27 April 08 13:02 BST (UK)

Martha Walsh brn 21 July 1867 Glendermot dist., Co. Londonderry to John Walsh and Sophia McLaughlin.

If this is the correct family they were nowhere near Portadown. 

Title: Re: Grandmother Kelly (nee Welsh)
Post by: Ferris Walker BEM on Sunday 27 April 08 19:53 BST (UK)

Hi all you happy campers

Thanks for all your help,but I think that Hugh's father John must have been born about 1800? as Hugh was born in 1858.
I will keep plodding on.
Once again thanks
Ferris