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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Banffshire => Topic started by: liz hutchison on Sunday 27 April 08 09:45 BST (UK)
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jessie whittle,married to george hutchinson,they had twins in 1873 at dallas,near pluscarden,morayshire,scotland.cant find any head stone.possibly at chapelford braes of enzie,banffshire.has anyone got any idea how to find out,she could have also been buried under the name jeesie whittle.liz hutchison ???
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Hi Liz
checked SP there are only two Jessie Whittle deaths
but ages are only 2 and 4
there are 14 Jessie Hutchinson deaths only two of them
are 1882 and 1890
one with other name McDonald in Crathie Braemar
the 1890 one has no other name and it is in Campbletown
no matches for Jeesie Whittle
Elaine
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think i didnt make things clear which is usual for me,sorry will explain.jessie walker was the mother of twins to george and james hutchinson in 1873 to a george hutchison.george the father birth date is 1854 mill hill,northumberland.we dont know if this was a hand fast marriage or a legal one.the twins born at pluscarden,morayshire.on their sons marriage certificate it says parents george hutchison general labourer deceased and jessie whittle formerly hutchison maiden name walker.now her son james married helen king in 1902 14 june ,trying to work out were she died and is buried.cant find her anywere.so she was alive in june 1901 hope this is not to hard for you.but jessie is the last thread i need to finish my husbands tree.regards liz hutchison ???
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Hi Liz
Have you looked at either of the twins' 1873 birth cert? It should show place and date of parents' marriage.
Regards.
Monica
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Jessie Isobel Walker other name Hutchinson
1945 but Cathcart Glasgow
there are a few Jessie Walkers in Banff
ranging from 1862 to 1960
definately no Whittles
Elaine
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hi all
there is a jessie whittle born scotland c1849 married to a charles on 1891 , 1901 england census :-\
ev
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only Whittle death in Banff
Is Margaret Whittle other name Cruickshanks
1883 aged 40
Elaine
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This looks to be George Hutchinson in 1871:
Ann Anderson 51
John Anderson 20
Duncan 14
James Duncan 14
George Hutchison 17, farm servant, b. England
Address: Craw Place, Urquhart Moray
Monica
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Then there is this entry in 1881 for the same George perhaps:
James Stronach 25, ag. lab., b. Urquhart, Morrayshire
Mary Stronach 28, b. Northumberland
Margaret Stronach 2
Isabella Stronach 19 Mo
Margaret Smith 13, half sister, b. Drainie, Morrayshire
George Hutchinson 24, farm servant, brother in law, b. Northumberland
Address: Sheriffston Cottage, St Andrews Lhanbryd, Moray
Monica
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this looks like the twins in 1881 census
George Hutchinson grandson aged 7 born Pluscarden Elgin
James Hutchinson grandson aged 7 born Pluscarden Elgin
Ann Walker 59 born Pluscarden
James Walker 53 born Elgin
Alexander Walker 12 born Pluscarden
David Walker 13 son born Pluscarden
Mary A Walker 26 Daughter born Pluscarden
Elaine
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hi
jessie walker born 28th dec. 1847 ch. 8th feb. 1848 elgin moray parents james walker & ann smith
on 1881 census twins are with grandparents james & ann walker in elgin
no sign of mother :(
ev
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hi all
just noticed annie s walker(niece) age 19 born scotland is living with charles & jessie whittle bradford yorkshire in 1901
ev
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itss not your Jessie Liz
that ladies maiden name was Hutchinson
Elaine
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Elaine
Are you saying that a Jessie Hutchinson married a Charles Whittle? Sounds like the right entry then. Also supported by Annie Walker niece staying with them in 1901. Although I don't think George and Jessie were married, Jessie from what Liz has said, passed herself off as Hutchinson. If you have found a marriage entry for them, maybe that was the name she was then using rather than Walker?
Monica
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hi Monica
it was Ev
who mentioned the Charles and Jessie Whittle
Elaine
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Sorry Elaine, getting confused :P It was in respect of your comment its not your Jessie Liz that ladies maiden name was Hutchinson
Monica
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Ev
is the neices name Ann Jane Hardie
if so she is named on the 1881 census
with the grandparents as well as the twins
Alexander is a grandson too
Elaine
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sorry if there's any confusion
i should have posted the whole thing
1901 census
26 hillside terrace bradford yorkshire
charles whittle 51 bookbinder born haydock lancashire
jessie wife 52 born scotland
annie s walker niece 19 dressmaker b. scotland
jessie mardock(murdoch ?) visitor b. leeds yorkshire
ev
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this might be annie on the 1891
old sq. ho. manbeen elgin moray
james walker 34 farm servant born elgin
annie wife 32 born shire , ross
james son 12 b. elgin
annie s daug. 9 b. elgin
john son 6 b. elgin
? jessie's brother
james walker b. 23rd june 1856 new spynie moray parents james walker &
ann smith(IGI)
ev
ps only minus point is i can't find marriage for charles whittle & jessie walker
or hutchison
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Hello
From the IGI - born to George Hutchinson and Jessie Walker
George Hutchinson and James Hutchinson - on 28 December 1873, Elgin, Moray - both 'extracted' so both available - probably on the same page on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Free SP search from 1901 to 1950 - shows only 3 Jessie Walker (her maiden surname) deaths. 2 born in 1848. I've come across SP doing this before putting down the year of ch. as birth or if the birth was at the end of a year it's registered in the next. None dying in Banff.
Steve :O)
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i believe from what i found out from that the jessie walker-whittle was married to charles whittle.it is them in 1901 census.but on the family tree it says she was married to a james oglilve todd foster.this jessie has me really baffled she couldnt have been married to two differnet men at same time.both of her death dates that i have been able to get from family tree and i.g.i have 1904.also that her b/d abt 1850 not 1847-1849?liz hutchison
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hi liz :)
looking at the tree on rootsweb it looks like alexander walker born 1868
elgin moray was the son of james ogilvie todd foster and jessie walker
then she had the twins to george hutchinson in 1873
no sign of a marriage to either man
then sometime after this she may have married charles whittle if we're on
the right track
ev
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thanks ev ,have heard that their was a son alexander,before the twins,wasnt sure.when you say roots web how do i find that.liz ???
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liz
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=Search&includedb=&lang=en&ti=&surname=walker&stype=Exact&given=jessie&bplace=&byear=1847&brange=2&dplace=&dyear=&drange=0&mplace=&myear=&mrange=0&father=&mother=&spouse=james&skipdb=&period=All&submit.x=Search
this is the online tree that might be of interest
ev
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thank you for that ive been having a look around didnt even know that it had been done,liz . ;D
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Are you saying that a Jessie Hutchinson married a Charles Whittle? Sounds like the right entry then. Also supported by Annie Walker niece staying with them in 1901. Although I don't think George and Jessie were married, Jessie from what Liz has said, passed herself off as Hutchinson. If you have found a marriage entry for them, maybe that was the name she was then using rather than Walker?
That's spot on. I corresponded some years ago with Jan, the author of that online family tree. At the time she was researching George Hutchinson, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't married to Jessie Walker, and that Jessie later married a Whittle.
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Hi Liz, As stated Jessie Walker did not marry either James Forster, (father of Alexander) or George Hutchinson, (father of the twins) :o Hello Forfarian, it's be a long time since we chatted, i have your email addy somewhere. ;)
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Hi Liz, As stated Jessie Walker did not marry either James Forster, (father of Alexander) or George Hutchinson, (father of the twins) :o Hello Forfarian, it's be a long time since we chatted, i have your email addy somewhere. ;)
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Yes so I have found out,also at the time of Alexanders birth James Ogvilvie was married.Liz
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I have that on Meet The Family website Liz, he was married to Jessie Grigor. Have you found out anything about Alexander, i'll be contacting Ron later to see what he can find.
Jan
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no we hav'nt found alexander yet would love to,if you can find him it would be wonderful.liz ;D