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Title: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851 (completed - THANKS!)
Post by: pd on Monday 12 May 08 02:44 BST (UK)

Hi
I'm looking for Lancelot Isaac born in Swansea. He married Elizabeth Thomas at St John's Swansea, in 1839. I am not sure when he was born it was either 1798 or 1817? I know the information is very vague but I've got it off GenForum.

In 1851 I believe they were living in 41 Tymaen St,Glamorgan.

regards
pd

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: Tati on Monday 12 May 08 08:10 BST (UK)

Hi pd,

1851
HO107/2462 362 62
Michaelstone Super Avon, Glamorgan
41 Tymaen St
Lanslot Isaac, head, 34, Collier, b. St John Glamorgan
Elizabeth, wife, 33, b. do.
Hannah, dau, 12, Daily Service, b. do.
Mary, dau, 10, Daily Service, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 8, b. do.
David, son, 6, b. do.
John, son, 4, b. do.
Margrett, dau, 8 mo, b. Michaelstone
David Thomas, brother in law, 30, Collier, b. St John

 :)

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: Tati on Monday 12 May 08 08:16 BST (UK)

1841
HO107/1424 32 11 14
Swansea Higher
Caey? Bricks
Loll(?) Isaac, 24, Collier
Eliza, 24
Hanah, 2
Mary, 1

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Monday 12 May 08 09:18 BST (UK)

Lancelot & Margaret Isac (twins) father Richard bapt. 7 Aug 1798 SWAJN

SWAJN - Swansea Juxta Neath ?

Possibly this Lancelot died as there is another on IGI b 1815 parents Richard & Margaret.

Richard Isaac married Margaret Thomas 30 July 1798 at Llangyfelach states both of parish (PWB) Personal details, Witness Banns


Cas

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: pd on Tuesday 13 May 08 00:54 BST (UK)

Hi Tati
Many thanks for the census information, it fills in a lot of gaps that I have had.
Up until I came across the posting mentioning Lancelot and that his parents were Richard and Margaret Isaac,  I had not realised that Martha had a brother.  I had come to a dead end.
Thanks again.
regards
pd

Hi Cas
I had thought that there were two Lancelots. With the ch: date being the same as Martha's it does suggest that they were twins. Many thanks for the information.
regards
pd

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 13 May 08 00:57 BST (UK)

Hi pd,

Glam index states them as twins on bapt so they must have been....

Cas

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: pd on Tuesday 13 May 08 01:03 BST (UK)

Hi Cas
Thanks for that. Information confirmed. Brilliant!

regards
pd

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: pd on Tuesday 13 May 08 01:09 BST (UK)

Hi Cas
If you have access to the glam index any chance you can look up Martha Isaac born to Richard Isaac and Margaret Thomas about 1818.

The 1841 census has her as 20
The 1851 census has her as 33
The 1861 census has her as 42
The 1871 census has her as 52
The 1881 census has her as 63

I have her marriage cert so don't need her marriage. She married William Davies in 1846, her age then was full.

It seems that there must have been 2 Lancelots and 2 Marthas.
regards
pd

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Tuesday 13 May 08 01:21 BST (UK)

Sorry no Martha Isaac there...

Cas

Title: Re: Lancelot Isaac 1841 and 1851
Post by: pd on Tuesday 13 May 08 01:27 BST (UK)

Thanks Cas!
regards
pd