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Title: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew *Complete
Post by: Lisaw on Thursday 22 May 08 15:50 BST (UK)
Would someone please do a look up on the 1871 census for John & Williamina Matthew, born about 1833 & 1842?  Should have children William, born 1864, age about 7, Jane, born 1866, age about 5, Mary, born 1869, age about 2.

Also a look up on the 1881 census for Jane Matthew about 15 yrs old. Jane, William, & Mary don't seem to be with their parents on this census. This is the information I have from the 1881 census:

Dwelling: West Coldstream

Census Place: Drumoak Aberdeen

John Matthew, head, 41 yrs old, ag lab, married, born Fyvie, Aberdeen

Williamina Matthew, ag labs wife, 38 yrs old, married, born Old Machar

Janet Matthew, daughter, scholar, 9 yrs old, born Stracathro (Marykirk) Forfar

John Matthew, son, scholar, 6 yrs old, born Marykirk Kincardine

James Matthew, son, 1 yr old, born Old Machar Aberdeen

Thank you for any help

Lisa
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 May 08 17:00 BST (UK)
Could this be Mary?

1881
registration Number 258/2
Fetteresso
Cookney
Kincardineshire
address Cairngrassie Fen

James Black age 23 brechin Forfar  Lab
Jane Black age 28 wife born Aberdeen Aberdeenshire
Mary Matthew age 12 visitor born Marykirk Kincardnesh
Peter Mathew age 10 months boarder born Drumoak Aberdeenshire



Pam
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: 'Tricia on Thursday 22 May 08 17:06 BST (UK)
This is really frustrating as we are not allowed access to the original images and I suspect the following entry may be your family.  Without checking the original census entry this is difficult to prove but as Janet was born Stracathro it may be a clue.

The problems are  - is Mattle really Matthew
                                is Katherina really Williamina

You can see the original here  www.scotlandspeople.co.uk  but it is a pay per view site

I can only give you the commercial transcription :-\



1871

Beal, Stracathro, Angus

John Mattle Head 29 Ploughman born Fyvie, Aberdeenshire
Katherina Mattle wife 28 born Millstone, Aberdeenshire
William Mattle son 6 born Nigg, Kincardine
Jane Mattle dau 4 born Barthar ??Ick, Kincardine
Mary Mattle dau 2 born Marykirk, Kincardine
Robert Duncan Boarder 2 born Brechin, Forfarshire
Milne Boarder 11 born Nigg, Kincardine

Parish: Stracathro; ED: 3; Line: 6; Year: 1871.

Sorry, Tricia
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: 'Tricia on Thursday 22 May 08 17:07 BST (UK)
Mary in 1881 fits in with the Mary in 1871 - I am more convinced it is the correct family



Tricia
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 May 08 17:09 BST (UK)
Could this be Jane?

1881
Registration Number 168/2

Old Machar Aberdeenshire

57 Victoria Street

Christina Matthew age 41 Mantle maker Aberdeen
Jane Matthew age 17 niece born Aberdeen scholar

Pam
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: 'Tricia on Thursday 22 May 08 17:22 BST (UK)
Putting on my guessing hat again - this may be William - unless someone else can find something better ???

Again the original image will need to be checked for mistranscription of the name Matthew but


there is a Duncan connection from the 1871

 - what do you think, Down under?


1881

Mains Of Dellavaird lenbervie
Glenbervie
Kincardineshire
   
Alexander Duncan Head 46 Farm Overseer (Farm Of 105 Ac Of Which 103 Ac Arable Emoloy 4 Men & 2 Women) born Fordoun, Kincardine
Jane Duncan wife 49 born Fetteresso, Kincardine
David Duncan son 9 born Glenbervie, Kincardine
Joseph Duncan son 7 born Glenbervie, Kincardine
Bettie Hosie 64 General servant born  St.Cyrus, Kincardine
William Mathers servant 18  Farm servant born Marykirk, Kincardine
 ??? ??? ???

Parish: Glenbervie; ED: 1; Line: 6; Year: 1881.

Tricia

Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 May 08 17:26 BST (UK)
Yes that William seems to fit in with the others. I am wondering who the baby Peter Matthew boarder is ? that Mary is visiting.

1891

Registration Number 282/2
Liff and Benvie
Dundee
Angus

34 Flencher Street
John Matthew age 50 NK Aberdeenshire gen lab
 Williamina wife age 49 Aberdeen Aberdeenshire
John M Matthew son age 16 born N K Kincardineshire factory worker
James Lb Matthew son age 11 born NK Aberdeenshire
Bella b S Matthew age 9 born NK Aberdeenshire
James Ogilvie boarder age 7 Leith Midlothian


Pam
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: Lisaw on Thursday 22 May 08 17:38 BST (UK)
Thank you very much everyone! I think every post are the correct people. Now I have a sister or sis in laws name to go with John Matthew, & Williamina is a Milne. I wonder who Peter is too.

Yahhh! everyone!!

Lisa
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: 'Tricia on Thursday 22 May 08 17:42 BST (UK)
I can't spot him in 1891 or 1901 but that's hardly surprising judging by the state of the transcribing on these census.

I wonder if he either died, had another first name or was illegimate and then mum married.

Who knows - hope someone does and posts soon ;D

Tricia
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 May 08 17:46 BST (UK)
I had a look for Peter also

1901

registration Number 282/1

Liff and Benvie
Angus

16 Annfield Street
John Matthew age 68? gen lab born Fyvie Aberdeenshire
Williamina wife age 58 Aberdeen
Ann Higgins age 20 boarder Jute spinner born Dundee
George Murray boarder  age 50 cab driver born Edinburgh
William Murray age 12 grandson Dundee
Bella Murray age 10 Dundee grandaughter


1891
Registration Number 282/2

Dundee Angus
143 Lochee Road
George Murray age 27 Groom born Edinburgh
Jane wife age 25 New Machar Aberdeenshire
Wm G son age 2 Dundee Forfar
Jane age 7 days Dundee Forfar

Pam
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: down-under on Thursday 22 May 08 17:55 BST (UK)
Here is Mary I think 1891 I did wonder if Peter was her son young as she was.

1891

registration Number 300

Lethnot and Navor
Angus

Waterhead
David Webster age 28 Shepherd born Forfar
Mary  Webster age 22 born Marykirk Kincardine
Maggie W dau age 3 born Brechin Forfar
David son age 1 Brechin Forfar
Jemima Crabb servant age 14
David Greer age 28 Shepherd  born Ireland
Catherine McDonald age 65 housekeeper Glenisla Forfar

Pam
Title: Re: 1871 & 1881 census look up-Matthew
Post by: Lisaw on Thursday 22 May 08 18:53 BST (UK)
Its a good possibility Peter is the son of Mary. Jane Matthew/Murray/Briggs is my gr grandmother & as far as I know she didn't have any Peters, William is her 1st child born in 1889.
Thanks again,
Lisa