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Title: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 12:30 BST (UK)
Sarah appears in the 1851 Ellington census age 5 with her parents David & Mary Fairy.  In 1861 she is no longer living with her parents.

Can you find her, please?  Alternative spellings could be Fairey, Farey or even Feary.  She was born in Ellington.

I'm also looking for her birth record and so far have only found a Sarah Farey born Dec Q 1845 Huntingdon Vol 14 Page 192.  I am discounting the Sarah A Fairey born 1846 Huntingdon who appears on Camdex, as I don't believe my Sarah had a middle name. 

The various marriage records under her name around the right time  (to Groot, Gould or Barwell) don't appear to be hers, as they are already "spoken for".  I don't know if she married or died young, so any information would help.

Here's hoping  :D

Gillg
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 12:41 BST (UK)
Hi Gillg,

1861
RG9/983 43 23
Kimbolton, Hunts
Ivy House

Sarah Fairey, serv, 15, General servant, b. Ellington 
 
in the household of John Horsford, Farmer 130 acres

 :)
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 12:47 BST (UK)
I believe this is her in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=7449988

The 1891 census shows the same family with Mary Fairy, 69, mother in law.

(In 1901, the family are at Hampstead, London)
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 13:53 BST (UK)
Tati

I'm struggling to find a marriage of Sarah and William - nothing on FreeBMD or Camdex that I can see, but with Mary Fairy as mother-in-law this seems pretty conclusive.  Alconbury is interesting, too, as one of Sarah's sister's lived there.

So now we have Sarah's family from 1851 to 1891, thanks to you, with the exception of 1871.  I have her parents David & Mary in 51, 61 & 71 in Ellington along with various of their 10 daughters.  In 1881 David is living in Abbotts Ripton with his daughter Jane and visiting grandson (and her nephew) Ernest Mayes and Mary is visiting another daughter Rachel (Mayes, mother of Ernest) in Wilden, Beds.  David died in 1887, not sure about Mary, though there is a death of 71 year old Mary Fairey in Thrapston Mar Q 1894, who is nearly the right age.

Thanks very much, Tati.  That's a great help.

Gillg ;)

p.s. Hampstead in 1901?  Were they visiting?  They would seem to be rather old to be making a career move.  Visiting daughter Maud, perhaps?

p.p.s. It was a career move - just looked and found William is a Bricklayer's Labourer, poor chap!
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 14:04 BST (UK)
1871
RG10/1525 91 6
Ellington

William Peach, head, 30, Ag lab, b. Wood Newton
Sarah, wife, 25, b. Ellington
Jane Ann, dau, 5, scholar, b. Wood Newton
Elizabeth, dau, 3, scholar, b. do.
Emily, dau, 2, b. Ellington
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 14:11 BST (UK)
1901
RG13/126 64 55
Hampstead, London
6 Linstead St
2 rooms occupied

William Peach, head, 61, Bricklayer's Labourer, b. Northants Wood Newton
Sarah, wife, 55, b. Hunts Ellington
John W, son, 15, Carman, b. Northants Yaxley

1891
RG12/1235 46 5
Sawtry St Judith, Huntingdonshire
(can't read address)

William Peach, head, 50, Ag lab, b. Nothants Water Newton
Sarah, wife, 45, b. Hunts Ellington
Mary Fairey, mother in law, wid, 69, b. do.
Jane Seaby, boarder, 18, Ag lab, b. Sawtry

Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 14:29 BST (UK)
Better and better, Tati.  ;D

An intriguing fact has emerged from contact with another Fair(e)y researcher - William Peach appears to have been married twice, and the first time to Sarah Wright in Dec Q 1855 Huntingdon 3b/605.  A Sarah Peach died in Huntingdon June Q 1865 3b/164. 

Could it be that having one marriage cert with wife name Sarah on it, William decided to recycle it when he got together with Sarah Fairy?  Their daughter Maud Anne or Annie was born in Mar Q 1874 Huntungdon 3b/272, so if there was a marriage it should appear between 1865 and 1874.  There is a marriage for William Peach in Mar Q 1872, but it's to a Martha Mackness!

Thanks for helping, Tati.

Gillg
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 14:35 BST (UK)
Marriage Dec 1864 Oundle
Sarah Fairey 3b 486 (mistranscribed on FreeBMD as 3b 196)

guess if there's a William Peach with the same reference!  8)
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 14:40 BST (UK)
Are you sure William married in 1855? He would have been only 15  ???
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 14:56 BST (UK)
Hm, perhaps I should re-word that and say that a William Peach married a Sarah Wright in 1855!  I'm not sure at all.  This is my first encounter with the Peaches.

Sorry  :'(

Gillg

p.s. Can't see the Fairey/Peach marriage you mention in Oundle, even with the corrected reference.  What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 15:14 BST (UK)
I can see a birth registered in Oundle (which includes Woodnewton) Dec Q 1839 15/302 for William Peach, though.  Looks like our man. ;)

Gillg
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 15:15 BST (UK)
p.s. Can't see the Fairey/Peach marriage you mention in Oundle, even with the corrected reference.  What am I doing wrong?

I don't know  ???
Can you see a marriage for William Peach in Dec quarter 1864 Oundle?
Can you see a Sarah Fairey in Dec quarter 1864 in Oundle?

They just don't appear on the same page in FreeBMD because Sarah's page number is completely mistranscribed  

I'm struggling with William in 1841 and 1851! (Although indeed the Dec 1839 birth looks good) He's a servant at Southwick in 1861 ... not much help  :(
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 15:31 BST (UK)
William is all I can get on FreeBMD.  Just won't bring Sarah up with any variations. 

William and Sarah moved around quite a lot after their marriage, so maybe in his earlier years he did the same.  Thanks for all the effort you are putting into this topic. :D

Gillg 
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 03 June 08 15:42 BST (UK)
Well, is this working?  :D
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03k6/
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 03 June 08 15:46 BST (UK)
Sure is  8)
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Dale on Wednesday 04 June 08 04:10 BST (UK)
Kia Ora
ME! I stumbled on Sarah Peach by searching for Sarah born 1845 Huntingdonshire   and she was the only one born Ellington.

With no other resources I just searched for a marriage between Sarah & William Peach. There is a marriage on the LDS for William Peach to  Martha Mackness on  19 March 1872 Alconbury Weston.  A member's submission so could be suspect! But I was misled!  Sorry about that!

Gill, put Sarah FAIREY Marriage 1864 into Free BMD - you will see her name  with OUNDLE in  Italics. 
The Italics immediately tells you something is wrong!

Click on the spectacles at the right hand side of the entry and read the original entry.  The number is certainly not 3b/196.
William Peach' s entry is not easy to read either! Could be 466 or 486! Whatever- they will not match up until the numbers are identical. So be wary if you order the Cert to point out the difficulties!

I'd suggest you post a correction to Free BMD as this is the only way they will pick up errors!

I'd add a POSTEM as well! If we all added our respective branches it would make  the searching  a lot easier!

Looks like the Rootschatters have come up trumps again! Good on you Tati!

Gill I didn't mention Sarah Wright until now.....! ::) I was wondering how we would sort that one out!
Cheers
Marlene


 
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Wednesday 04 June 08 11:15 BST (UK)
Hi Marlene

Another little Fair(e)y mystery solved! ;D

I've added a Postem to the FreeBMD correction, so hope it gets published.  With the marriage being in Northants, I had at first thought that this Sarah might have been one of the Hardingstone Faireys, but obviously not.

Many thanks for helping with this query, Tati and Marlene. 8) 

Gill
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: TessieWessie on Monday 28 July 08 22:43 BST (UK)
One comment here regarding Sarah Faire(e)y is that she had many sisters.

Does anyone know if one of the sisters was a Jane Fair(e)y who married a Lewis Levin (Levine,Leaven) c 1965 in Biggleswade.  On the 1891 census they are living in Kensington.
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 29 July 08 11:36 BST (UK)
Hi TessieWessie

Jane, the youngest of Sarah Fairy's many sisters, was born in 1863 in Ellington, Hunts.  She married Thomas August Chandler in 1895 and lived after her marriage in Alconbury, where she died in 1946. 

I'm not sure at the moment about the Jane you mention, whose marriage is shown on FreeBMD in Sept Q 1867 to Lewis Leaver, and whose name is spelled there as Farey.  This could be the Jane Farey born in Wellingborough, Northants in June Q 1840.  The spellings vary quite a lot - Fairey, Fairy, Farey, Feary, etc.

You say you have found Jane and Lewis on the 1891 census.  What places of birth did they give for themselves and their children, if any?  How is their surname spelled there?  I can't find them on the 1881, can you?

Sorry for all the questions, but they might lead to an answer for you.  If Marlene from NZ is watching, she may be able to suggest further ideas, as she has a fund of infomation about Fairys, etc., from Hunts/Beds/Northants.

Gillg
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Tuesday 29 July 08 12:54 BST (UK)
I can see a Lewis Levin?, indexed as Levere by Ancestry, in 1901, age 63 living in Kensington, a second hand clothes dealer; plus wife Jane 53 and children William unmarr 33 and Edith unmarr 19. The children were both born Wandsworth and Lewis and Jane born Richmond Surrey.

I can't see them in any earlier census. Is this the same family as you found in 1891?

I can't see what would link this family with the Biggleswade marriage other than the names are right and William seems to have been born at the right time. But if it is the same family as 1891 and it's the couple who married in Biggleswade the birthplace seems to rule out Jane being from Hunts, and her age is totally wrong for her to have married in 1867

The 1867 marriage is on the IGI, extracted
David
Title: Re: Sarah Fairy c 1845 Ellington
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 29 July 08 15:27 BST (UK)
Apologies, just changed the marriage years for the two Janes on my earlier reply. The correct years are 1895 for Jane F & Thomas Chandler and 1867 for Jane F & Lewis Leaver. Can't think where on earth I got the previous dates from. Must have been a pre-caffeine moment, sorry. :'(

There aren't many Jane Fareys born around the right time to match the one David mentions from 1901.   Jane Farey of roughly the right age might be the one born Cogenhoe, Northants Mar Q 1855 and christened 18 Mar 1855 daughter of Joseph and Esther.  The christening entry is from the LDS site and doesn't specify that it is extracted, so beware.  I find it slightly suspicious that both husband & wife gave the same birthplace - does the 1891 entry say this as well?

Gill