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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: Scotty60 on Monday 09 June 08 22:40 BST (UK)
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Does any one know about this family from past to present. I have done some research but it is a large family. Here's hoping.
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Hello Scotty,
I have connections with the Simpsons who lived arond Scoonie, Leven, Largo, Buckhaven St Monance, Pittenweem, etc., etc. As you say, they sure were a family who were BIG, but they did tend to stick around the towns and villages that I have just mentioned.
What I would need from you are details of the family going back through the generations. From that, I may be able to help you out. At this stage, send me a message off-line.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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Hi Tom
Good to be in touch.Can't see how to PM on this forum. It would be good to exchange info. Do you have Family Tree Maker?
Scotty.
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Scotty, just put up the information you have and others may be able to help
Rootschat is not a secret society ;D ;D
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Hello Scotty,
Yes, I do have that piece of software. I will be in touch with you shortly.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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Scotty, just put up the information you have and others may be able to help
Rootschat is not a secret society ;D ;D
What I don't want is to give away my email address, I have been caught out before.
Scotty ???
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Just put up the info you have of your family tree and ask for information that you are finding hard to find out.
You dont need to put up your email address
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Sancti.
My Simpsons are from Scoonie, Lundin Links and Largo and are descended,as far as I can be sure, from Andrew Simpson (1797).
Scotty
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Just discovered wow to PM.
Scotty
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Scotty
If you have concerns about email addresses on web sites - get yourself a web address - hotmail, yahoo, gmail etc I have a number - keeps everything separate - very handy.
If you correspond with one person only, by PM or email, you lose the chance of assistance from many other people. Sancti is a very good researcher as are many other folks on rootschat. Don't limit the possible assistance
Trish
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Thanks for that Trish, I do have a few email addresses so I may dedicate one to rootschat. I have put the name of the person I am researching on the forum so maybe I may get a response. Hope so because I have reached a wall.
Scotty
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Scotty you need to be a bit more precise on the information you are seeking. What is the wall you have reached? Name date and area will help Rootschatters to assist you.
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As the title is Simpsons of Scoonie and the name I gave is Andrew Simpson and the date I gave was 1797, this is where I cannot get further back.
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Do you know when he died, do you know who he married? Is it his parents you are looking for?
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I have no idea when he died, he was married to Isabella, I don't know her maiden name. I have no idea who his father, mother or grand parents were.
Scotty :(
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The OPR's on SP only show 2 marriage in the area
31/01/1819 SIMPSON ANDREW married ISABEL EDGAR/ at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
Banns also proclaimed at Wemyss
05/02/1819 SIMPSON ANDREW and ISABEL EDGER/ at Wemyss /FIFE
There is another record for a marriage of an Andrew Simpson in Fife. Going by the date it may be a son of the above or a second marriage or even a completely different Andrew
29/06/1849 SIMPSON ANDREW married ISABELLA COLVILLE/ at Auchtermuchty /FIFE
I can only see 1 christening record around that time in Scoonie
29/09/1805 SIMSON ANDREW son of WILLIAM SIMSON/JEAN GREIG at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
Unfortunately I cant see a death record after 1855 for an Andrew born around 1797.
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I have no idea when he died, he was married to Isabella, I don't know her maiden name. I have no idea who his father, mother or grand parents were.
Scotty :(
Hi Scotty
If you want to go away and talk privately to whoever please do, but you must know it is near impossible to start searching for folks with one name. Tom was asking you for details of the family going back through the generations Presumably to add to his mass of names from Fife.
All good research goes back from what you know. I presume you know the children of your Andrew, who would give a good idea as to the name of his father and mother, and the name of his wife's parents. Scottish naming patterns seem to be very strong back in this period of time. Details of the next generation can probably be found on census records. Often parents/grandparents are found living with their children.
With such a minimimal amount of information, Sancti is away :) - I am impressed.
Trish
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the Fife death CD gives an Andrew Simpson died in Scoonie 24/1/1847 buried 26/1/1847 OPR 456-4
Don't know if that helps?
Diddy
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Thanks for your help Sancti, I'm not sure if these are the ones I have. The Andrew I have is listed in the 1841 and 1851 census and is married to Isabella ( Simpson) ? and they have 7 children. These children fit in with my genealogy. Walter marrying Janet Martin, his eldest son Andrew marrying Grace Bousie, his eldest my G Uncle William marrying my G Aunt Nell ( Helen Henderson ). What I am trying to do is establish ancestry beyond Andrew (1897/99) and hope to find living cousins that I lost contact with in the 1950s. My cousin William Simpson of Upper largo married Jean Munroe and had two children Mary and Jean. Jean lived in Bristol for a while whilst her husband was at university. My Granny was mortaly offended by the fact that Jean had married an Asian and made her feelings very clear to Jean. Obviously Jean was rather upset by this and cut herself off from us. My other cousins were children of Grace Simpson and Robert Horne of Lundin Links we lost touch with these when my Mother moved us to England.
There you are, a potted history.
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the Fife death CD gives an Andrew Simpson died in Scoonie 24/1/1847 buried 26/1/1847 OPR 456-4
Don't know if that helps?
Diddy
Thanks Diddy
This isn't the same Andrew unless of course he was my Andrew's father.
Scotty.
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What are the names and ages of the children on the 1841 census?
Are Andrew and Isabella both on the 1851 census? What ages are given?
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The children are :- Agnes 11, Allan 18, Andrew 6, Betty ( Elizabeth) 11, Christian 4, Isabella 8, Walter 22.
1851/ Andrew 52, Isabella 53 .
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I think the parents are the ones on my previous post. I got these christening records from the OPR's on SP
02/05/1819 SIMSON WALTER son of ANDREW SIMSON/ISABELLA EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
08/04/1821 SIMPSON JAMES son of ANDREW SIMPSON/ISOBEL EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
01/04/1823 SIMPSON ALLAN CORNFOOT son of ANDREW SIMPSON/ISOBELLA EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
17/03/1828 SIMPSON BETTY daur of ANDREW SIMPSON/BELL EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
28/07/1830 SIMPSON BETSEY daur of ANDREW SIMPSON/ISABELLA EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE (Previous Betty must have died)
28/07/1830 SIMPSON AGNES daur of ANDREW SIMPSON/ISABELLA EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE (Twin????)
30/10/1832 SIMPSON ISABELLA daur of ANDREW SIMPSON/ISABELLA EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
04/12/1834 SIMPSON ANDREW son of ANDREW SIMPSON/ISABELLA EDGAR at Scoonie (Fife) /FIFE
Allan's unusual middle name may give a clue to a grandparent's name
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Hi Scotty
these are Headstone Inscriptions which seem to be your Kin
Scoonie Cemetery
65 In Memory of Andrew SIMPSON died at Leven 29.12.1893 age 50?
Rachel Fyall SIMPSON died 9.7.1885 age 16
Walter SIMPSON died 25.9.1907 age 40
His daughter Grace Bousie SIMPSON died in Infancy
Grace Ostler BOUSIE wife of Andrew SIMPSON
Died 12.3.1921 age 80
Also Betsy Kellock MITCHELL wife of Walter SIMPSON
Died 22.1.1937 age 66
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Headstone Inscription
Largo Cemetery
479 William Bousie SIMPSON husband of Helen HENDERSON
died 25.8.1932 age 60
eldest son Andrew died 11.9.1945 age 46 husband of Violet ROBERTSON
son Robert H SIMPSON died 22.2.1954 age 52
husband of Annie McLean
above Helen HENDERSON died 15.10.1963 age 91
Elizabeth Small STEWART died 23.1.1955
Wife of Victor SIMPSON who died 1.3.1969
There are 2 small stones in front of 479
Robert HORNE died 9.11.1970 age 69
Husband of Grace Helen Simpson
Who died 29.8.1993 age 93
John W HORNE died 24.12.2001 age 69
Husband of Pamela M GRIFFITHS
Photos of both headstones are available
Norrie G
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1851 - there are still some children at home :)
Leven Scoonie Parish 456 ED 1 Sched 44 Address Forth Street
Andrew Simpson 52 head letter carrier
Isabella Simpson 53 wife Domestic duties
Agnes simpson 20 daur Flax spinner
Elizabeth Simpson 20 daur hand loom weaver flax
Isabella Simpson 18 daur hand loom weaver flax
Christian Simpson 13 daur scholar
All born Scoonie Parish, Fife
This might? be the family in 1861
Scoonie Fife (address given as 23??) No 456 ED 1 Sch 99
And Simpson 62 head Sheriff officer born Pathhead, Fife
Isabell Simpson 63 wife born E Wemyss
Agnes Simpson 29 dau Linen handloom weaver born Leven
Betsy Simpson 29 dau Linen handloom weaver born Leven
Catherine Lewen 18 visitor Flax spinner born Kircaldy
A look at the image may provide more information - but if they lived past 1855 8) a death certificate could be useful
Trish
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Perhaps Isabella has died, again the scan would be useful
1871 22 North St Scoonie Fife Reg 456 ED 1 sch 58
Andrew Simpson 74 head Retired Lillie corner ??? (Mail carter?) born Pathhead, Fife
Christina Simpson 55 dau Laundress born Leven, Fife (It may be the age is 35 and this is Christian)
Barbara Adamson boarder 11 Filesmith worker born leven
It is around 6 miles between Pathhead and Scoonie
Trish
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There is a will at SP for Andrew Simpson Flesher, High Street, Leven, d. 29/12/1893 at Leven, testate - looks to be the person on the headstone found by Norrie G
There is a death on SP for Andrew Simpson born 1797 +/- 5 years in Scoonie, Fife 1875
There is also a death in Fife 1869 for Isabella Simpson born 1797 +/- 5 - it wasn't listed as Scoonie or Leven - I haven't checked all the other districts
Trish
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Just got back from work and logged on to find all this great information. All the information is usefull for inclusion in my family tree. I was in largo last week and went to Upper largo cemetery and photgraphed some of the Head Stones but the pictures seem to have disappeared from my camera, Sad. Thanks for the info on my cousin Victor, I didn't have this info.
Scotty ;D
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Hi Scotty
this is the picture of Headstone Inscription
Largo Cemetery
479 William Bousie SIMPSON husband of Helen HENDERSON
died 25.8.1932 age 60
Norrie G
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Hi Scotty
thisare Headstone photograph Scoonie Cemetery
65 In Memory of Andrew SIMPSON died at Leven 29.12.1893 age 50?
Rachel Fyall SIMPSON died 9.7.1885 age 16
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Great pictures NorrieG - what is really useful when tracing Scottish relatives is that in many areas the women continue to be known by their maiden names (early women's lib in Scotland :) ). It makes it so much easier to trace the families, than in England. Many of the MIs on my family graves in Australia also include the original parish of the person buried - I have only ever seen this on the graves of folks from Scotland.
Trish
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Thanks for those photos Norrie, I was staying in Leven and didn't think to go to Scoonie cemetery. The pics from Upper largo are great,mostly because I knew most of these folks.
I have been sent pics of headstones from New Zealand from kinfolk over there, as Trish says the maiden name information makes life/death much easier when researching. I can't thank you all enough for the help and time you have put to assisting me in my quest.
My Aunty Nell Simpson nee Henderson's sister and two brothers emigrated to New Zealand, one of her nephews married a Maorie girl. I am in touch with them all through research.
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I came across this site by accident as I googled the Simpson name. I have just input the date of death information for Andrew Simpson when I did this!
He died 14/7/1875 at Forth Street, Leven. Was a retired postman and widower of Isabel Edgar. Death was registered by his son W(ALTER) Simpson of Buckhaven. I am very remotely linked to the Simsons.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for the input Terry,all info on this family is gratefully received.
Scotty
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Hi Scotty
this is the picture of Headstone Inscription
Largo Cemetery
479 William Bousie SIMPSON husband of Helen HENDERSON
died 25.8.1932 age 60
Norrie G
I've just discovered this thread - fantastic stuff. I've not had time to digest all the info on here.
My wife is the daughter of John W Horne as in the photo. Scotty - I think you are related!
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I have many Hornes in my tree - from Leven, and other parts of Fife.
Monkey_49 - want to give me some more details to see if we have any connections??
Terry
PS Hello to Norrie G - How are you doing??
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I've attached a PDF which gives a summary of most of the Hornes and Simpsons in my tree (I've excluded the living for privacy purposes!).
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And here's an ancestors chart.
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Hi Monkey_49
Good to hear from you.My Simpson and Horne connections come from my Great Aunt Helen Somerville Henderson Simpson,she married Great Uncle Bill. Their daughter married Robert Horne and had three children ,John (Jock) W Horne I remember from my childhood. My Grandfather George Henderson was the Nephew of Helen ( Aunty Nell).
If you want to talk living family please contact me PM.
Scotty
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I have many Hornes in my tree - from Leven, and other parts of Fife.
Monkey_49 - want to give me some more details to see if we have any connections??
Terry
PS Hello to Norrie G - How are you doing??
Hi again Terry
I'm always interested in any info on the family, if you can add to the information from Monkey_49 I would be grateful.
Scotty
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Scotty,
Will do! as soon as I have checked out any possible connections
Terry
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An old thread... but then,...Scoonie, Upper Largo and then Markinch.