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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: jillruss on Friday 04 July 08 10:46 BST (UK)
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A while back, I found the only IGI baptism I could find which fitted the census info I have on my Thomas Sykes. It was in an Independent Chapel in Highfield by Huddersfield in 1792 and he's the son of John & Mary.
Now, thanks to the new Nonconformist BMD website (and £5 - for one look up!) I've got a copy of the relevant page, and it looks like the right people, as they're described as from Almondbury which is where my Sykes were from.
What is strange is that this is the only child I can find of this couple's who was baptised there.
I have a few Almondbury parish church baptism booklets from the FHS and have managed to locate a couple of definite children: Benjamin in 1803 & William in 1808 - both sons of John Sykes and Mary (nee Crawshaw) and family abode is Tunnacliff Hill.
It's very difficult to distinguish any other children in between 1792 & 1803 because only the father's name is given - looking for Sykes in this area must be as bad if not worse as looking for Smiths anywhere else! :-\
Certainly there are no other Sykes children baptised with the abode of Tunnacliff Hill - which is definetly where the family were from.
Questions:
1. Are there any other Independent chapels nearby where any other of their earlier children may be baptised?
2. Is it usual for families in the area to use both the Dissenting and parish churches for theirBMDs? I'm sure I've got the right marriage for John Sykes & Mary Crawshaw in the Almondbury parish church in 1791 but no sign of a possible baptism for Mary Crawshaw in the area.
Jill
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I think I am right in saying that at that time ALL marriages had to be in Church of England chuches.
Perhaps if Almondbury was near where they lived it was easier to get to than the Independant church near Huddersfield once they had more than one child. Also the 'grandparent' who attended Highfield may have died or had less influence.
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Thanks - of course I should have remembered about marriages having to take place in CoE.
I've been studying maps trying to work out which side of Huddersfield was Highfield by Huddersfield. I can't seem to find it, probably swallowed up by Huddersfield by now.
The only likely baptism I can find for Mary Crawshaw is in Ripponden, so it would be interesting to know if Highfield is/was that side of Huddersfield, as opposed to the Almondbury side, as I think you may be right and that the Crawshaw family were perhaps the Nonconformists.
Jill
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I too would be delighted to learn where Highfield Chapel was (and whether anything is still there), as my Crook, Styring and Beaumont lines were all stalwarts of it since its establishment. Many of my ancestors are buried there - wherever its burials were.
Anna :)
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There is a mention of Highfield Chapel on this site but no mention of it's location.
http://www.huddersfield1.co.uk/huddersfield/huddstrivia1.htm
Dave
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Highfield is very close to the centre of Huddersfield, just off the ring road. If you look at a map online, you will find Highfield in the area between A649 Trinity Street and A628 North Road. There is still a Highfield Funeral Service, but I'll ask around locally to see if anyone can tell me anything about a chapel in that area.
Sue
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Hi Jill,
There is a photo of Highfield Chapel on this link
http://groups.msn.com/EnglishChurchPhotographs/churcheschapelsofhuddersfield.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1155
Christine
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Thanks for the link & photo, Dave & Christine - very imposing building - probably very expensive flats it's been turned into!
Sue, following your directions on the map, it looks as though it's definetly central but perhaps a bit more on the Ripponden side of Huddersfield, but perhaps I'm just clutching at straws!
Jill
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Hi Jill,
It's definitely in the town centre, just off Trinity St I think, New North Road according to the photo in the link.
Christine
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Hi
Most of the area known as Highfields has over the years been swallowed up by Huddersfield Technical College around the areas of Trinity St and New North Rd and Im almost sure that the old Chapel is now used as student accomodation.
Jane
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Hi Jill!
You could be clutching at straws! Ripponden is about 10 miles as the crow flies - longer by road - the hills are in the way. Almondbury is only about 2. Put it this way, I'd rather walk from Huddersfield to Almondbury, than Huddersfield to Ripponden!
Sue
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Oh!
I'm trying to find some connection between the Highfield Chapel where Mary Sykes nee Crawshaw's first child was baptised and Ripponden which is the only place I can find a likely baptism for Mary Crawshaw herself in the timeframe (married 1791). There are also a few children baptised at Highfield Chapel to a Thomas Crawshaw who could very well be Mary's brother, also baptised in Ripponden.
Perhaps the family moved into Huddersfield and became dissenters.
Like I said before, I always find the Huddersfield area really difficult to research. Head...wall...bang!! ;)
Jill
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Hi Jill
Didn't reply earlier as I've just recently joined this site.
I live in Highfields within yards of what used to be Highfields Chapel, which as you're already aware was changed into apartments several years ago.
I've recently received the deeds of my house dating back to 1913, and am now curious to know more. There is a rumour that my house was once linked to the chapel, but so far I've had no joy.
The chapel is off New North Road about 0.5 miles out of Huddersfield Town centre, which leads to the M62 at Ainley top (exit 24) Ripponden can be reached by travelling west on the motorway and leaving it at junction 22. Almondbury is on the opposite side of Huddersfield.
I'd be grateful if you would pass on any knowledge. links or photos of the chapel to help with my search.
Leanne
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Hi Leanne,
How interesting!
I'm afraid I don't know any more about the Highfield Chapel other then what's on this thread. The links given by Dave and Christine are well worth checking out.
Good luck.
Jill
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Good morning Jill
I've tried Christine's link and couldn't get into it, which was a little frustrating, but if it was only a photograph then it's not too bad as I see the building every day. I 've known about the Hudds trivia site for some time, which is excellent and interesting.
I intend going to Huddersfield library to see what I can find there. If I have any joy, and find something which I think may be of interest to you, I'll let you know.
Lynn
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Thanks, Lynn.
That would be great. ;D
Jill
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Hi Lynn,
Th link does still work but I think it will be removed from there shortly as the msn groups is finishing.
There are some other photos on this link, covering all Kirklees area. Just put Highfield Chapel in the search box.
http://www.kirkleesimages.org.uk/index.php
If you are from Huddersfield area you will find it very interesting.
Christine
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I don't know if this will help anyone - but I have just found this out. Apparently the register book for Highfield Chapel is bound very tightly, so not everything got on the IGI and sometimes only surnames eg.
1. CLEGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 JAN 1817 Independent, Highfield By Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
2. CLIGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUN 1818 Independent, Highfield By Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
If you look carefully at where the fold of the book would have been you can sometimes read the name. These two were sons of John Clegg and Betty. I am told the Highfield records don't mention occupations. I have been in touch with someone who asked to see the original Highfield register at Kew, giving the reason that she couldn't read some names on the film, and she was allowed.
I was told this by a very helpful lady from the Calderdale Family History Society because I am looking for a so far unfindable baptism of an Elizabeth CLEGG born ca 1820, daughter of John [said to be a shopkeeper when Elizabeth married in London in 1838] & she states in the 1861 census she was born in Huddersfield. I may be - as usual - clutching at straws but it is difficult to leave any stone unturned.
Josey
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I appreciate this is slightly off topic but I have a couple who married at Brunswick Street UMFC in Huddersfield in 1875 and quite a few couples marrying at Buxton Road Wesleyan Chapel in Huddersfield.
I have no idea where these paces are and it would seem a great effort to travel so far to marry in the 1800s, by rail I presume.
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I have a family interest in Highfield Chapel. My great-great Grandfather James Bray, cloth manufacturer of Deighton Nr Huddersfield was apparently a member of Highfields Independent Chapel. Many cloth manufacturers abandoned the Church of England and took up with the Free Church and Independent movements at this time. West Yorkshire was the hot bed of Independents.
Apparently my G-G-Grandfather was a little too independent for the Independent and was put out for refusing to prevent his daughters from dancing. A similar spirit has invested most of his male descendants.
I am trying to discover the nature of what I have seen referred to as "The Highfield Schism." If anyone could enlighten me as to its history I will be most grateful.
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I appreciate this is slightly off topic but I have a couple who married at Brunswick Street UMFC in Huddersfield in 1875 and quite a few couples marrying at Buxton Road Wesleyan Chapel in Huddersfield.
I have no idea where these paces are and it would seem a great effort to travel so far to marry in the 1800s, by rail I presume.
I attended Brunswick Street Methodist Church in Huddersfield from about 1939 to 1949 when I was expelled by an angry Sunday School teacher, Mr Porritt, for asking questions.
Sadly the building no longer exists, and that's a pit because it was a beautiful and well cared for example of Methodist Church architecture with a grand organ.
Due to falling rolls the Methodist Church closed won in - 602? - and the congregation joined with Edgerton Congregationalist Churlish going under the generic umbrella of 'Reformed.' That too hit the dust some years later and was converted into flats.
When the ring road was built Brunswick St Chapel fell victim to the motorised vehicles and fell to make way for a short circular feeder road.
Buxton Road Wesleyan Chapel was an early victim of Huddersfield's re-development, but was at the end of town at Chapel Hill, the beginning of the old wild and windy road to Buxton in Derbyshire.
Brunswick St and Buxton Rd were withing easy walking distance of town centre. The former being less that a quarter mile from the railway station, and the latte within half a mile.
If your folks were located at Holme Moss they could have taken a pony and trap into town, or rode horses, or even - perish the thought - walked. However it must be borne in mind that going to the proper church or chapel was very important to folks in those days and distance, while it might not have lent enchantment to the view, certainly was not the object it is these legless days.
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Have you looked at the High Street Chapel, Methodist New Connexion? The IGI batch number is C136071. They don't start until 1794 however but there are some Sykes baptisms.
Stuart
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Another option for baptisms was the Queen St Methodist. If your relatives lived in Almondbury they would have had to pass this non conformist before all the other chapels in the town centre.
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Hi
I have just seen your message and I think you are looking for another Independent in the area.
I would have a look at the Lane Independent at Holmfirth (Upperthong) which is in the John Cockin enquiry.
(Some of the problem with the long lost ancestor were that if they had an argument or just didn't like the preacher or Reverend they would move to another church or chapel or in some case a new Reverend or preacher became popular and they would attracted people from other places which makes tracing them down even harder.)
John
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Regarding the marriage of John Sykes in Almondbury
There are two marriages of a John Sykes to a Mary, the first being John Sykes to Mary Mallinson on the 5/09/1785.Their son is a baptised David Sykes son of John Sykes of Tunicliffe Hill 19th May 1787. Four years before John Sykes marries Mary Crawshaw, their wedding took place on 1st Dec 1791. Did his first wife die or are there two separate couples. If there are, then it is the first couple who live at Tunnicliffe
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Have checked baptisms at the Lane Independent 1779-1916 and there are no children of John Sykes with a Mary
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Having now found the baptisms of Benjamin and William with the mothers maiden name it appears that either John's first wife died or that John's father is still alive living at the same abode. My reasoning is that John is entered as (jnr)on Benjamin's baptism suggesting that his father is still alive.
Hannah Sykes is baptised 28/09/1790 dau of John of Tunicliffe Hill at Almondbury
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I think I am right in saying that at that time ALL marriages had to be in Church of England churches.
Perhaps if Almondbury was near where they lived it was easier to get to than the Independent church near Huddersfield once they had more than one child. Also the 'grandparent' who attended Highfield may have died or had less influence.
The Highfield Independent Chapel stands tall and proud as ever. It is directly off the main New North Road adjacent to the old Huddersfield Boys College, separated from it by what was once a narrow cobbled lane that ran down from the main road to Highfields proper. It is now converted into flats for those that can afford them. Apologies if this has already been posted.
The congregation of Highfields was largely formed from worshippers that seceded from Huddersfield Saint Peter's Parish Church towards the end of the eighteenth century. I'd like to know the causes of this schism, if anyone has any information.
The attached picture is the Independent Chapel that stood in High Street Huddersfield before the 'improvements' were made.
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Hi
To simplify it the congregation grow because the areas population was growing and the chapel had some good longstanding well liked pastors.
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The reason given in "Discovering Old Huddersfield" part 4, p28 was that Henry Venn who was the vicar of St Peters, the parish church of Huddersfield, was very popular for his evangelical sermons. He was known as "T'owd Trumper" and people came from far and wide to hear him.
He gave his last sermon at St Peters on 30th March 1771 and his successor was of a different school so proved far less popular. Many of Venns supporters left the church and decided to build their own chapel and Henry Venn gave his support to this idea.
The first chapel cost £800 and was opened on 1st January 1772.
My ancestor was one of Venn's old parishioners who was interviewed by his grandson for his biography in 1824. He obviously had a great effect on his flock.
Stu
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/CallieK/UK562.jpg)
the site of former Highfield Independent Chapel, taken Aug 8, 2011
I was recently in Huddersfield to do some famly history research and ended up all over the city chasing down the various churches, Most of my ancestors were married at St Peters Parish church but at some point they switched over to Highfield, and the next generation moved on to Holy Trinity.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the MI's fo Highfield are online anywhere? Or if not, if there's somewhere to write or email to obtain them? The cemetery assoicated with it is now a parkig lot and the gravemarkers are gone but I assume there must be records somewhere.
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Calliek: Thank you for posting the photograph of Highfield Independent Chapel.
I have discovered that the 'Highfields Schism' took place in 1771 when the Reverend Henry Venn, minister of St Peter's parish church retired and another vicar whose preaching style lacked the fervour and enthusiasm of Venn's took over. It is this change that dissatisfied some attendees, so fifteen of them, encouraged by Henry Venn, started to look to build their own independent house of worship. My Great-Great-Grandfather James Bray was among the founder members.
On January 1 1772 the first service was held at the new chapel, built at a cost of GBP800.00.
I may have mentioned in previous correspondence that Grandfather James was booted out [excommunicated] because he would not stop his daughters from dancing. As far as I can tell, they are still dancing.
I am grateful for all contributors that have helped and inspired me to rummage out and piece together some of the history of Highfields Chapel and my illustrious ancestor.
I believe the proper name for the chapel is Highfields, plural, since it sits on the upper slopes of what once were a series of high fields running up from the low-lying Saint John's Road and connected with the Edgerton District, that the New North Road [that runs roughly south west!] cut through to sever it from its loftier neighbours in upscale Edgerton.
OFF TOPIC:
I am writing a book about the Huddersfield Luddite uprising of 1812, "Luddite Spring" hopefully in time for the two-hundredth anniversary. If anyone has any snippets of information that might be useful I will be pleased to receive them.
The attached picture if of Castlegate Slums in Huddersfield. Any information about this area and its people in any age is most welcome.
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Calliek - Huddersfield Local History Library has the Highfield records on film. You can email them - huddersfield.localhistory@kirklees.gov.uk. I don't think they have MIs but there is a list of graves which gives the names and relationships of people buried in the same grave.
I have a copy of the HDFHS transcript of the burials if you'd like me to check for somebody for you, but it only gives the name, date of burial and age
Sandra
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/CallieK/UK562.jpg)
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the MI's fo Highfield are online anywhere? Or if not, if there's somewhere to write or email to obtain them? The cemetery assoicated with it is now a parkig lot and the gravemarkers are gone but I assume there must be records somewhere.
Most of the Huddersfield area indices are lodged in the archives at either Wakefield or Leeds. I forget which.
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Kirklees archives definitely have a copy of the MI's which I believe were recorded when the gravestones were removed.
My ancestors gravestone recorded burials from 1791 to 1841 and not only the names and dates but even the verse was transcribed.
I haven't seen these MI's online but I expect that the archive could send you copies.
Stu
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Quilltales - there are loads of articles in the 19th Century newspapers about the Castlegate area and it's people (some of them my family!), many from the Magistrates courts. If you don't have access to the newspapers, PM me your email address with what kind of things you're looking for and I'll send you a sample.
Stu - I wasn't aware that the library had the Highfields MIs - looks like I'll have to make another trip there!
Sandra
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Hi
The Highfield Chapel building which still stands today was built in 1843-4.
I attach a scan of a postcard in my possession (written in a childish hand to Dora from cousin Alice!) which shows the original Highfield Chapel of 1772.
Regards,
Lesley
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Kirklees archives definitely have a copy of the MI's which I believe were recorded when the gravestones were removed.
My ancestors gravestone recorded burials from 1791 to 1841 and not only the names and dates but even the verse was transcribed.
I haven't seen these MI's online but I expect that the archive could send you copies.
Stu
Stu - I asked at Huddersfield Library and they don't have the MIs for Highfield. Do you recall where you saw them?
Sandra
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Kirklees archives definitely have a copy of the MI's which I believe were recorded when the gravestones were removed.
My ancestors gravestone recorded burials from 1791 to 1841 and not only the names and dates but even the verse was transcribed.
I haven't seen these MI's online but I expect that the archive could send you copies.
Stu - I asked at Huddersfield Library and they don't have the MIs for Highfield. Do you recall where you saw them?
Sandra
I too would be fascinated to learn where these transcriptions can be accessed.
Anna
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I have discovered that the 'Highfields Schism' took place in 1771 when the Reverend Henry Venn, minister of St Peter's parish church retired and another vicar whose preaching style lacked the fervour and enthusiasm of Venn's took over. It is this change that dissatisfied some attendees, so fifteen of them, encouraged by Henry Venn, started to look to build their own independent house of worship. My Great-Great-Grandfather James Bray was among the founder members.
Quilltales - this is very interesting. Do you happen to know the names of the other 14 founders? I am particularly interested to know whether any of them was a Crook, Styring or Beaumont.
Anna
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Kirklees archives definitely have a copy of the MI's which I believe were recorded when the gravestones were removed.
My ancestors gravestone recorded burials from 1791 to 1841 and not only the names and dates but even the verse was transcribed.
I haven't seen these MI's online but I expect that the archive could send you copies.
Stu
Stu - I asked at Huddersfield Library and they don't have the MIs for Highfield. Do you recall where you saw them?
Sandra
Sandra,
It is about 10 years since I viewed them but I think it was these
Reference NI/HI
Covering dates 1771-1978
Held by West Yorkshire Archive Service, Kirklees
Conditions of access Open
Creators Huddersfield Highfield Independent Church
Contents:
Baptisms 1853-1935, burials 1773-1947, records re graveyards 1850-1981, minutes 1771-1977, membership records 1772-1973, financial records 1771-1978, educational records including Sunday School 1822-1977, Huddersfield Girls' College Company and Huddersfield College Company 1870-1885
I definitely saw them at Huddersfield archives, was it the archive where you asked or just the local studies library? I know how vague the librarians can be ::)
Stu
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Stu - it was the local studies library. I'll have to order the records at the archives. It looks like they hold quite a bit of information on Highfields Chapel.
thanks
Sandra
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Somebody once told me that some of the gravestones had been reused after the conversion. I had a look around a few years ago but couldn't see any sign of them. Has anybody else who has visited Highfield noticed any gravestones which were saved?
Also the last burial which I have for a family member at Highfield was in 1841 and after the name and date it says "Interred in the new ground" . I have no idea where the new ground is/was and I can't find any sign of it on the old maps.
Stu
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Hi Anna (and others interested in Highfield chapel)
I have the membership list. 18 members are listed in the first 'batch' of members, dated Feb 14th 1772. Dates of death have been added in some cases at a later date. Parts of it are not very legible, so don't take my transcriptions for gospel. As far as I can tell, it says:
1.Willm SCHOFIELD Lockwood Died Dec 13 -89
2.Katherine GODDARD Dyke-end Died feby 1796
3.Jno HOUGHTON Huddersfield Died July 24 1808 (??)
4.Geo STYRING Do. (Huddersfield) Died 11th October 1795 (barely legible note underneath ---- of Mr (?) Jonathan HAIGH)
5.Jos HIRST, Yew-green Died June 6 1813
6.Willm HALL Quarnby (sic) Died March 16 1821
(more to follow in next post)
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(Highfield membership continued)
7.Jno HIRST Dyke-end Excom Novr 2 for heresy 1781
8.Jno BRADLEY Lockwood Excommunicated July 2 1779 for adultery
9.Geo CROW Do. (Lockwood)
10. Jos BEAUMONT Lanehead dead
11.Abram LITTLEWOOD Huddersfield Suspended Oct 1788 Died June 18-- (illegible)
12.Nancy HEPWORTH Do. (Huddersfield) Died Septr 1780 (??)
(more in next post)
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(Highfield membership continued)
13. Jno HORN Marsh Died June 1801
14.Jas BRAY Fartown Died July 1818
15.Jno BROOK Flashouse Died April 1820 ( and an illegible note)
16.Jos MILLER, Longwood Excom Nov 2 1781 for heresy
17. Jno BATLEY Marsh Died April 10 18-- (illegible)
18. Ann Do. (BATLEY) Do. (Marsh)
The next batch of members are listed a month later on 13th March 1772.
Regards,
Lesley
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Great stuff, Lesley - many thanks.
No. 4, George Styring is my something-x-great grandfather. I wonder if the note refers to his being the father-in-law of Jonathan Haigh (George's daughter Mary Ann married Jonathan Haigh at St Peter's on 4 June 1828). I don't know why this was worthy of mention, as he had other sons-in-law too, but Jonathan Haigh seems to have witnessed a lot of marriages at St Peter's so perhaps he was parish clerk or similar.
No. 10, Jos[eph] Beaumont is also my something-x-great grandfather (if I've got the right chap - there were a lot of Beaumonts about!).
Anna :)
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Hi Anna
I think the STYRING entry says 'S father of Mr Jonathan HAIGH', but as people often seemed to use 'step' when they meant 'in-law' and vice versa that fits in with what you already knew.
regards,
Lesley
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Also the last burial which I have for a family member at Highfield was in 1841 and after the name and date it says "Interred in the new ground" . I have no idea where the new ground is/was and I can't find any sign of it on the old maps.
Stu
Stu - I think I recall seeing a map of the burial grounds and chapel on the film of Highfields records in the Local History Library. There was also a copy of a letter regarding the removal of the bodies, but i didn't read it all. Could be worth a look if you can get into the library?
Sandra
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Calliek - Huddersfield Local History Library has the Highfield records on film. You can email them - huddersfield.localhistory@kirklees.gov.uk. I don't think they have MIs but there is a list of graves which gives the names and relationships of people buried in the same grave.
I have a copy of the HDFHS transcript of the burials if you'd like me to check for somebody for you, but it only gives the name, date of burial and age
Sandra
Thanks Sandra- I'm missing the grave for one of my string of Thomas Kilner's. He was born around 1778 and died in 1858 - I found a burial record at the Root Cellar that show that he was buried at Highfield. Possibly with his wife Harriot Kilner (born Hirst). I have who I believe to be his father's MI which I located at St Peter and and definitely his son (both also Thomas Kilner) who we found at Holy Trinity. I'm hoping for an MI since yob might help solve a few questions...
Sunlaws, I read through most of those Highfield records on film at the Hudderfield library when I was there- fascinating stuff but my eyes gave out before I could finish! I never did locate anything in reference to any Kilners although I wish I could figure out how Katherine Goddard connects to my line - I believe there's a connection with the Hirst line, and the above Thomas and Harriot named their youngest daughter Catherine Goddard.
Quilltales, I think I have some notes relating to Castlegate- I'll see if I can dig them up.
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Stu supplied the WYAS Highfield reference NI/HI
Within that reference, NI/HI 1/1 is the membership book 1772/1923 (names of members, date of joining, abode (sometimes), date of death (sometimes) and other details such as excommunication, 'defected to baptists' 'gone to America' etc.)
NI/HI 1/2 is the Burial Ground List 1816-56. This is listed in numerical order by number of the grave, and also gives name, age and date of burial.
NI/HI 1/3 is a list of burials 1777-1947, arranged roughly alphabetically, and has columns for 'tombstone number' (NB not grave number), 'born' (only very occasionally filled in),'date of death', 'age', 'relationship', 'occupation' (almost never filled in) 'IMO or orwise' (?) and the last column with no heading, where sometimes an abode is entered.
NI/HI 2/2 is Interments 1871-1981 ('Register of Interments in Highfield Chapel Yard May 20th 1871' is the heading on the first page), and this is arranged in date order, giving name, age, and fees paid for the burial.
regards,
Lesley
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Calliek-
In WYAS NI/HI/1/3
Tombstone number 169
Charles KILNER (died) July (?) 8 1831(?) age 11 Son of Thomas and Harriott Kilner (something illegible, perhaps crossed out) Grandson of John HIRST
Ellen KILNER (died) Sep 17 1824 (age) 15 wks Daur of Thomas and Harriott Kilner
Harriott KILNER (died) Feb 28 1849 (age) 63 above
Thomas KILNER (died) Jan 16 1858 (age) 79 above
Catherine Goddard KILNER (died ) Mar 6 1880 (age) 54 Daur of Thomas and Harriott Kilner
Regards,
Lesley
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Lesley
It sounds to me as if the records in the Archives give the same information as is on the film in the Local History Libary, which does give the names and relationships in each grave if you can find the right part of the film.
Stu mentioned the MIs were also available - is that not the case?
Sandra
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Sandra-
I'm sorry, I don't know anything about the MIs- I was just giving the contents of the references I know about, trying to clarify what info to expect from the 'Burials', 'Burial Ground' and 'Interments'.
Stu says even the verses were transcribed, so all I can say is that it sounds hopeful that MIs exist- somewhere!
Regards,
Lesley
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Thanks Lesley
I shall persevere and ask at the Archives if they have any record of the MIs. If they're available, I'll do my best to track them down!
Will let you know
Sandra
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Probably of interest to nobody other than myself but just as an example this is what I have from the MI's
STARKEY
In memory of
James, son of John and Betty Starkey
of Cowcliffe who died February 19th 1791
aged 3 years
Also Richard their son who died February 26th 1791
aged one year
Also William their son who died January 27th 1793
aged 12 years
Also Samuel their son who died July 23rd 1810
aged 18 years
I'm not ashamed to own my Lord
or to defend his cause
maintain the honour of his word
the glory of the cross
Also Betty wife of John who died June 11th 1822
aged 72 years
Also above John who died February 9th 182? (1831)
aged 86 years
Also Thomas, son of above who died April 13th 1841
aged 62 years
interred in the new ground.
From this I assume that the verse was added in 1810 and the later burials were added as they occurred.
From the burial records on film I also have burials in 1810 & 1811 of John's daughter in law and her daughter but I haven't found any MI's for those so I think that they must have been buried in a different grave.
Stu
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Calliek-
Catherine GODDARD rests beneath Tombstone number 10, having died on Feb 17th 1796 aged 69 at Dyke-end, but sadly there is nothing entered in the 'relationship' column. John HIRST and his wife Ruth rest beneath the same tombstone, so your hunch about the HIRST connection looks good.
There is no-one else at all by the name of GODDARD in the Highfield burials.
Regards,
Lesley
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Discovering old Huddersfield is now online at http://huddersfieldhistory.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/discovering-old-huddersfield-v2.pdf. The section on Highfield is at page 424.
Stu
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Hi there. Does anybody have any info re: New Burial sites plz? I've been into WYAS and Huddersfield Local History library,but they dont seem to have a transcription of the headstone. I'm looking to find an Andrew Lorimer 'd' 1852. He is buried with 2 of his sons,James and John,and also his wife Janet. And another young man,Peter Stewart. Would this info be with the 'bundles' of graveyard files they hold at WYAS? Any info would be much appreciated. Thankyou.