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Title: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 15 July 08 13:38 BST (UK)
Could I ask for a look up for the following family on the 1841 census

Rowland Evans wife Margaret
Son Roberty born 1815
son Thomas 1817
dau. Margaret 1822
 dau  Mary 1825
dau Maria 1828
son Charles 1830
sorry I have no ages for Rowland and wife Margaret but the family where all born Llanfyllin

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 15 July 08 13:46 BST (UK)
1841 for High St Llanfyllin - all b in county

Rowland Evans 55  joiner
Margaret   50 
Robert   25  joiner
Thomas 20 
Margaret 15  ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years
Mary 15 
Maria  13 
Charles  11 
Margaret   4 

HO107 Piece 1435/ 3  Folio 42 Page 10



Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 15 July 08 13:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Carole could I now ask for the same family on the 1851/61 census?

Thanks once again Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 15 July 08 16:10 BST (UK)
Hi Sheila

Is this of interest:

Llanfyllin BTs - marriage~

29 Sept 1809  Rowland Evans, widower and Margaret Edwards, both otp. Banns. Witnesses - James Davies and Richard Davies


Regards


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 15 July 08 16:44 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget, I didn't have the marriage really appreciate you taking the time to look. Any chance of the 1851 census lookup?

Thanks again Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 15 July 08 16:51 BST (UK)
1851

HIgh Street, Llanfyllin
HO107/2499 Folio 350 Page 13

Rowland Evans, 67, Carpenter (master)
Margaret, 63
Robert, 35, Carpenter
Thomas, 31
Margaret, 28
Charles, 20,  Carpenter
Elizabeth, grandchild,10

all b. Llanfyllin. All children unmarried

I thought Carol might be doing it  :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 15 July 08 16:57 BST (UK)
and 1861

HIgh Street, Llanfyllin
RG9/4263 Folio 54 Page 41

Rowland Evans, 77, Joiner Butcher, b. Llanfyllin
Margaret, 74, b. Llanfyllin
Robert, 46, Joiner, b. Llanfyllin
Margaret, 39, Baker, b. Llanfyllin
Mary Evans, grddaughter, 16, servant, b. Llanfyllin
Margaret Gorrie, grddaughter, 9, scholar, b. America, Canada
Catherine Gorrie,grddaughter, 6, scholar, b. America, Canada
James Gorrie, grdson, 4, scholar, b. America, Canada


Gadget  :)
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 15 July 08 20:23 BST (UK)
Thanks again Gadget. The name Gorrie is new to me, I wonder who their parents are,? Maybe from children  from Rowlands first marriage, will have to do a bit more digging. Now just need the 1871 census now.

Thanks Sheila














Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Tuesday 15 July 08 21:00 BST (UK)
Have found a Maria Evans married  to a James Gorrie Lewisham Sept qtr 1850
could anyone please find them on th 1851 census for me, if this is the daughter of Rowland Evans she will be about 22/23

Thanks Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 15 July 08 22:48 BST (UK)
Hi Sheila

I've not checked the 1851 but, judging by the birthplaces of the children, they might well have been in Canada  :-\


Regards


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Wednesday 16 July 08 08:24 BST (UK)
Thanks again gadget.
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 08:45 BST (UK)
Hi Sheila

It might be worth you putting a request about the Gorrie family on the Emigrants to Canada board:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,166.0.html

There are some good searchers there who might be able to find something on the family  :)

regards


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:11 BST (UK)
From Llanfyllin BTs:

Baptism 10 Feb 1828 Maria d/o Rowland Evans (joiner) and Margaret

This fits with the 1841


Gadget   :)
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:35 BST (UK)
Thanks for the lates info.

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:55 BST (UK)
Would you like me to check on Rowland's parentage?
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 10:11 BST (UK)
There are two. The most likely from census age is:

Bpt 10 Aug 1783 (b. 10 Aug)  s/o Rowland Evans and Gwen

the other:

2 Feb 1782 (b. 30 Jan)  s/o Griffith Evans (glover)  and Elinor
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 10:19 BST (UK)
Interesting:

Castell Caereinion BTs

Marriage 22 May 1802 Rowland Evans, bach., carpenter,  parish of Berriew and Elizabeth Webb, spinster, of Berriew


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Wednesday 16 July 08 10:52 BST (UK)
yes please, and Margarets if possible, she was a Edwards before marriage, I am curious about her, as her daughter (my grt grt grandmother)mary also married a Maurice Edwards.

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 11:27 BST (UK)
Re Rowland Evans:

Quote from: Gadget on Wednesday 16 July 08 10:11 BST (UK)
There are two. The most likely from census age is:

Bpt 10 Aug 1783 (b. 10 Aug)  s/o Rowland Evans and Gwen

the other:

2 Feb 1782 (b. 30 Jan)  s/o Griffith Evans (glover)  and Elinor

Most likely Margaret Edwards:

Llanfyllin bpts:

bpt 15 May 1787, b. 14th May d/o Thomas Edwards and Martha. Abode - Bachia

As they had a son, Thomas, this is a strong poss.


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Wednesday 16 July 08 20:00 BST (UK)
Thanks once again gadget

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Saturday 09 May 09 16:15 BST (UK)
I have just started my research on this family again, could I ask for a look-up of them on the 1871 census, i am particularly  interested in the three grandchildren Margaret  Catherine and James all born canada, i have just recently found out that their parents both died  March qtr 1860 at Portsea so now understand why they where with their grandparents in the 1861 census, also grandparents Rowland and Mary both died before 1871.
Any help to find them would be appreciated.

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 16:24 BST (UK)
Hi Sheila

First of all, James appears to be a soldier at Woolwich:

Royal Artillery Barracks, Woolwich, Kent
RG10/780 F 53 P 13

James Gorrie, 15, Trumpeter - Royal Artillery, b. Canada


Gadget  :)
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Saturday 09 May 09 16:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Gadget, that looks to be the right James, his fathert was in the Royal Artillery thats why the children where born Quebec Canada.

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 16:29 BST (UK)
This might be Catherine:

Town Gate, Leyland, Lancs
RG10/4194 F 72 P 7

Frederick Hackforth, 40, chemist, b. Doncaster
Lydia, 56, chemist's wife, b. Rotherham
Kate Gorrie, servant, 18,  domestic servant,  b. Quebec, Canada

Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Saturday 09 May 09 16:35 BST (UK)
Thanks once again

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 16:36 BST (UK)
Not yet found Margaret  :(

However, I have found a possible marriage:

Margaret Gorrie, Sept q, 1873, Oswestry, vol 6a, p 1213

Henry Edmunds, Thomas Williams and John Morgan are on the same page.

I'll do some more checking for her


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Saturday 09 May 09 16:51 BST (UK)
Found Margaret on the 1881 census married to Henry Edmunds(Edmonds)
RG11/3037/100 page 7
Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 16:56 BST (UK)
So she  is most likely in the broad Llanfyllin-Oswestry area in 1871, I would think.

I've tried for Maggie and Margaret, b. Canada  in Eng and Wales but not having much luck  :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Saturday 09 May 09 17:03 BST (UK)
Thanks for trying. Any idea where I might look for James in the 1881 census?
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 17:21 BST (UK)
If he's not obviously on the 1881, he might well be abroad with his regiment.

It might be worth asking on the Armed Forces Board for the whereabouts of the RA in 1881.

I'll have a quick look on the Nat Archives site to see if he has a record.


Gadget
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 17:34 BST (UK)
Had a look on the NA but no records for a Gorrie at all  :-\

Also can't see him on the 1891. There are a couple of deaths in West Derby RD (Liverpool) in  1897 and 1918 with approx DoB but not sure enough to say that one of them is him.

Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: slaw on Saturday 09 May 09 18:01 BST (UK)
Tghanks for all your help, will have a look at the deaths you mention. Any signs of Catherine?

Sheila
Title: Re: Evans Family LLanfyllin 1841 census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 09 May 09 20:46 BST (UK)
Haven't checked Catherine on the 1881- you might look for her on Familysearch but she might have married. Free BMD might have a marriage.


Gadget