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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: jacques on Wednesday 20 August 08 22:26 BST (UK)
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Help required in locating Marriage of Edward Leech and Elizabeth?? c 1820 at Tideswell
Or any records for the Leech family prior to 1820
Any information will be much appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Jacques
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Can't see any good fits
Edward Leech married Elizabeth Hall December 29 1791
Elizabeth Dawson married Samuel Leech April 23 1838
Pete
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Thanks Pete for looking.
Much appreciated
Pam
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Hi Pam,
I have ordered the Tideswell parish register for LDS library. When it comes I will see if I can find
anything for you, hope you can wait.
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Thanks very much for the offer, will look forward to it.
Pam
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I have Val Neal's transcript of Tideswell parish regs (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ValNealCDs.html).
As has already been said, there's no marriage in Tideswell for Edward and Elizabeth. However, I've just had a quick look what I can see for you...
They have just two children's baptisms listed:
son Richard, 24/10/1826, Edward a weaver
son George, 18/01/1829, Edward a weaver
The burial reg, doesn't list any childrens burials, but has
Edward Leech, husband of Elizabeth, age 61, 21/05/1856
Elizabeth Leech, widow of Edward, age 74, 11/2/1875
The only potential baptism for Edward in Tideswell is 11/11/1794 to Richard & Martha. (He also had an elder brother Edward who died earlier that year aged 1).
As for Elizabeth's origins...
She consistently gives her place of birth as Tideswell in censuses, and in the 1861 one was living with John Ward and his wife Sarah (age 46), as "sister in law", indicating she was almost certainly Sarah's sister.
John married Sarah Wain in Tideswell in 1845, when her father's name was given as James.
A matching baptism for Sarah, daughter of James Wain & his wife Sarah is found in 1813. Looking at her siblings, there is baptism for her sister Elizabeth on 15/11/1799.
There are no subsequent burials, or marriages for Elizabeth Wain, so I would say there's a very high chance that she was Edward Leech's wife.
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A BIG THANKYOU for all that information.
It certainly fills in a few gaps. As you say I think Elizabeth (WAIN) must have been Edward Leech's wife. I didn't know her maiden name was Wain so thanks again for that.
Regards Pam
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Jacques, just to let you know that the register for Tideswell as come.
Is there anything else you would like me to look at. I have the film for 4 weeks only.
I am going tomorrow
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Hello CU
Thank you for the offer, do hope I am in time.
I will list quite a bit, but don't expect you waste a lot of time on my behalf, just pick out what you wish to look for.
Looking for anything on MARY (Ann) BONSALL bc 1886 she married GEORGE (Edward) LEECH 19th July 1909 at Tideswell. All I know of George bc 1888. Also any children of this marriage I already have
REGINALD VICTOR LEECH born 31 July 1909
GEORGE FREDERICK LEECH born Sept qtr 1911.
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MARRIAGE of RICHARD LEE and SARAH WATTS possibly c1850 and any children other than these known to me
ANN bc 1850 GEORGE 1855 JOHN 1857 MARY J 1861 EDWARD 1865
JANE 1866 and LILLIAN 1868.
Much appreciated
Pam
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Me again
should read RICHARD LEECH not Lee
Thanks again
Pam
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OK I have printed off what you want. I will have a look. ;)
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Thanks again and Good Luck
Pam
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I will send you a PM
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Hi Jaques,
go to http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/DBY/Tideswell/MIs.html and
check out the MI from St John's Tideswell. There are Leech names among these.
They may be of some interest.
Regards
Paul
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Hello Paul
Many thanks for that, will look right away.
Pam
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Hello CU
Thank you for the offer, do hope I am in time.
I will list quite a bit, but don't expect you waste a lot of time on my behalf, just pick out what you wish to look for.
Looking for anything on MARY (Ann) BONSALL bc 1886 she married GEORGE (Edward) LEECH 19th July 1909 at Tideswell. All I know of George bc 1888. Also any children of this marriage I already have
REGINALD VICTOR LEECH born 31 July 1909
GEORGE FREDERICK LEECH born Sept qtr 1911.
and
MARRIAGE of RICHARD LEE and SARAH WATTS possibly c1850 and any children other than these known to me
ANN bc 1850 GEORGE 1855 JOHN 1857 MARY J 1861 EDWARD 1865
JANE 1866 and LILLIAN 1868.
Much appreciated
Pam
Hi,
George Frederick Leech is my Grandad and Reginald my great uncle, I have been researching my family tree for quite some time now. I have gathered quite a lot of info and traced my family back to the 1700's all of them having lived in Tideswell!
Maybe we could compare notes!
Cheers Julie
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Hello Julie,
forgive me for butting in but if you come (or have come) across any Jacksons in your searches could you send them along to me. They may be mine! My Jacksons were in Tideswell from at least the mid 1600s.
Thanks
Paul Jackson
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Will do Paul!
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Hi Paul,
Had a look through all my papers and haven't found any Jacksons in Tideswell as yet, i'll keep looking and keep you posted.
Cheers
Julie
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I am trying to trace the Hunsstones and Chapmans who were in Tideswell and Cressbrook in the 1800's. If you had any information relating to their families I would be very grateful
Thank you
Lisa
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hi.My family name is Leech and my family emigrated to New Zealand in 1853 from Egremont in Cumbria.My ancestor in Great Britain was apparently a doctor in the court of William the Conqueror the original spelling being Leche He was gifted land in Derbyshire where Chatsworth House now stands.I understand this is quite close to Tideswell.This land was sold in the 15th century and the family moved to Penrith in Cumbria.Do you think there could be a connection?Coincidently my sister's name is Julie. Alasdair Leech
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Hi Alasdair,
Thank you so much for your email! I traced a Sir Roger Leche in some parish records, his daughter Isabella married Sir Sampson Meverell and they resided in Tideswell, so yes the Leche's were in Tideswell and it is not to far away from Chatsworth, unfortunately, I haven't found a male line of the Leche family at that time yet.
I wondered if there may have been alterations to the spelling of the name over the years and if this is how my Leech's came to be in Tideswell! I have managed to trace back to Edward Leech born in Tideswell in 1740 but can't find proof of the Leche/Leech connection!
I am almost sure after reading your email that there could be a connection! and what a coincidence your sister being a Julie too!
Thanks again for the mail and please keep me posted if you come across any more information.
Julie.
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My Joseph Leech was born in Tideswell in about 1804 according to the later census but by the 1820s he had made his way to Manchester and married twice and I am descended from his second marriage. As you say you have a number of Leech interests in Tideswell I was wondering if you have any records of such a Joseph Leech.
Keith Eckersley
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Keith,
There were two Joseph Leechs baptised in Tideswell in 1804 - the son of Robert & Mary on 26/2/1804 and the son of Samuel & Hannah on 7/6/1804.
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Hi
Going off at a tangent, but still in Tideswell, I was wondering if anybody would be able to look up a marriage in Tideswell?
6th Dec 1842 between Thomas Dawson and Alice Soro. I need to know their parent's names.
Thanks in anticipation, Eric
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Hi Eric
6/12/1842 Thomas Dawson, weaver, father James a weaver, married Alice Sorrow of Cressbrook, weaver, father James a weaver.
Alice was not born in Tideswell, but there is a marriage of a possible brother on 27/4/1850. William Sore, overlooker of Cressbrook, father James a weaver, married Mary Taylor of Cressbrook, weaver, father unknown.
Thomas Dawson son of James, a weaver, & Martha was bapt 11/8/1822.
James Dawson, a weaver, married Martha Dale 24/11/1818.
There are Dawsons (and variants, especially Doson) in Tideswell from the start of the surviving Tideswell PRs in the 1630s.
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Hi msallen
Many thanks. That confirms what I suspected. Like you say, there are rather a lot of Dawsons in Tideswell.
Also, one of the Soros married a Josiah Skidmore-22 Jun 1845. Would you have any idea if the Skidmores had been in the area for some time or if they came from the Black Country?
Eric
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The Skidmore marriage appears in my transcript as : Josiah Skidmore, farmer of Cressbrook, father Michael a labourer, and Sarah Torr, weaver of Cressbrook, father James a weaver. If you're confident of Sarah's identity then that's a good example of why we should never put full trust in a transcript!
The Skidmores had also been in Tideswell since the start of the extant registers, and indeed the name is found in a number of neighbouring parishes too, so if there's a connection to a long established line in the Black Country then it's probably back in the medieval.
Mark
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Thanks Mark.
Just curious really. Both my tree and my daughter in Law's go back to Skidmores in the Black Country by different routes and I thought it would be too much of a coincidence if this one did as well.
The Soros were transcribed in all manner of ways-Soroh, Sorrow,Sore & even Tore and more. This lot originated in Bolton but I seem to recall seeing them mentioned in Derbyshire in the 1600's.
Thanks again Eric
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Hi there, I too am looking for a marriage in Tideswell between Charles Clayton morgan and Felcia or Phelicia Worrell if not that their son charles fredrick worrell morgan may have been baptised there thanking you in anticipation,
jane
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Hi Jane, welcome to Rootschat.
You don't specify a date, but I'm guessing you're looking at around 1840ish?
The transcript I'm looking at (www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ValNealCDs.html#Tideswell (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ValNealCDs.html#Tideswell)) has marriages up to 1860, but only has baptisms up to 1841. There's nothing matching what you're looking for in either. However there is a burial - of Felicia Booth Morgan, age 2, on 17/9/1844. Other than this there are no other Morgan entries at all, and only a couple of sparse Worrel/Worrals from earlier dates which don't seem to have anything to do with your Felicia.
Sorry I can't be of more help - although I suspect that middle name of Booth may well prove to be a clue to a maternal line!
Mark
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Thankyou for that my Charles and Felcia morgan (nee Worrell) were there and having children in the 1841 and 51 census you have clearly found one I didn't know about! Thankyou so much for the help and i will pursue the Booth line I'm sure your right and it is a clue to one of the maternal lines, possibly his since the name worrell was passed down a couple of generations.... was it unusual not to be having the children baptised? Thanks again much appreciated.
Jane