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I'm searching for any info on Henry "Hent" Walker, born (I think) 1848 in Leeds - maybe Wortley (Lower Wortley?).
He married Mary Hannah Holdsworth (b 1849) but I don't know when or where.
They had 7 children: Emily, Alice, Joseph, Arthur, Samual, Alfred and John William.
Joseph was born 1877ish.
The nickname "Hent" was recalled by my father - but I have no evidence whatsoever.
Absolutely ANY info would be greatly appreciated - especially HIS parents or his occupation in 1880-90. (I'd be very pleased to get pointers on where to look).
Many thanks - Walks
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Have yuo found the family on the 1881 census, which is free to search on ancestry and www.familysearch.org
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Hi Lizdb - No I haven't - but I'm searching it now - many thanks - Walks
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Could this be their marriage?
Henry Walker 4Q 1876 Bramley (1863-1925) Yorkshire - West Riding Vol: 9b Page: 554
Mary Hannah Holdsworth 4Q 1876 Bramley (1863-1925) Yorkshire - West Riding Vol: 9b Page: 554
Laurina
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Might this be the marriage reg?
FreeBMD
Dec qtr 1876
Bramley
on same page
Mary Hannah Holdsworth
Henry Walker
9b 554
Suz
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This looks like the marriage:
from FreeBMD
Oct/Nov/Dec 1876
Bramley Yorkshire reg district
ref 9b 554
MAry Hannah Holdsworth
one of bridegrooms on same page: Henry Walker
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gosh
THREE great minds think alike!
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Possible birth - too early to be correct!
Mary Hannah Holdsworth
1Q 1849 Halifax Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire Vol: 22 Page: 254
Laurina
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1891 census
RG12 3676 36 18
16 LIfe guard Sq, Wortley
Mary H Walker Married 35
Joseph 13 son
Emily 10 dtr
John William 7 son
Arthur 4 son
Alfred 2 son
James Houldsworth boarder single 24 coal miner
all children bn Wortley - not sure about Mary
no sign of hubby with her!
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He must have been around, because here they all are in 1901:
RG13 4208 55 39
37 Woodcock Park Mount, Wortley
Henry 43 Railway Engine Brick setter bn Wortley
Mary Hannah 43 bn Wibsey
Joseph 22 Railway Engine stoker
john William 17 Railway engine cleaner
Arthur 14 Railway engine cleaner
Alfred 11
Samuel 8
Alice Ann 5
Nellie Whittaker niece 13
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1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4503; Folio: 51; Page: 39
Henry Walker, 22, Head, Wortley - Coal Miner
Mary H. Walker 23 Wife, Wibsey, Yorkshire
Joseph Walker 2, Son, Wortley
Emily Walker, 4mns, Daug, Wortley
The birth date of 1849 can't be correct she was born around 1858 according to this census.
Laurina
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rhere was also Horace Whittaker nephew 3 with them n 1901
Suz
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So there was !
Apologies :-[
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(that's impressive) - many many thanks to all.
I was just about to bleat "can't find 'em in the 1881 census" but your replies beat me to it.
.. didn't know anything about niece Nellie.
Fantastic
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1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4530; Folio: 51; Page: 35
Mary A Walker 43 - Grocer
Thomas C Walker 19 - Clay Miner
Ann Walker 18 - Woollen Cloth Weaver
Hannah Walker 15 - Woollen Cloth Weaver
Henry Walker 12 - Clay Miner
William Walker 7 - Scholar
All born Wortley - Mary is married but no sign of her husband
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1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3349; Folio: 52; Page: 38 Address - Low Wortley
John Walker 37 Head - Armley; Leeds, Yorkshire - Woollen Weaver and Grocer
Mary Walker 33 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire - Attending Shop
Elizabeth Walker 13 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire
John W Walker 11 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire - Hewer or assistant miner
Thomas D Walker 9 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire
Ann Walker 8 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire
Hannah Walker 5 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire - Scholar
Henry Walker 2 - Wortley; Leeds, Yorkshire - Scholar
Laurina
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L, L & S - you've answered ALL starting questions - its clear I need to ammend what few bits of info I thought I had.
Henry "Hent" Walker, b1858/9 - Clay Miner to Railway Engine Brick Setter.
Mary Hannah Holdsworth, b1856/7/8
Was the census taken o the same date (month) each 10years? That would still not account for a three-year spread of birth dates for Mary Hannah Holdsworth - maybe just an honest mistake(?)
Does anyone know if "Hent" is a common local abbrev of Henry - I have only ever heard it applied to HW.
Again, sincere thanks.
Walks
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Hi Walks
The census is taken at a similar time every ten years... here are the dates -
1841 6th June
1851 30th March
1861 7th April
1871 2nd April
1881 3rd April
1891 5th April
1901 31st March
1911 2nd April Not yet released
1921 19th June Not yet released
1931 26th April Destroyed by fire in WWII
1939 29th Sept For issue of ID cards - except service personnel.
1941 -- No census due to WWII
1951 8th April Not yet released
1961 23rd April Not yet released
1971 25th April Not yet released
1981 5th April Not yet released
1991 21st April Not yet released
2001 29th April Not yet released
Hope that helps.
It's quite common for people's ages to vary by a couple of years in most census. Ages on the 1841 census can appear confusing unless you know that ages up to fifteen are listed exactly but ages over fifteen were rounded down to the nearest five years. If you’re not aware of this fact trying to trace birth certificates can become unnecessarily difficult.
I've not heard of 'Hent' as an abbreviation for Henry before.
If you ordered this marriage certificate you would get Mary's age at marriage - I do have a female relative who lied and took ten years off her age as she was marrying a much younger man! You'll also probably get both fathers names and occupations too which would help you find Mary with her family in an earlier census.
Henry Walker 4Q 1876 Bramley (1863-1925) Yorkshire - West Riding Vol: 9b Page: 554
Mary Hannah Holdsworth 4Q 1876 Bramley (1863-1925) Yorkshire - West Riding Vol: 9b Page: 554
Laurina
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Excellent, thanks.
I've just discovered FreeBMD (from your replies) - did I say I am VERY new to this.
It looks like the links from that site to GRO is the path to ordering that certificate.
I'll go that way - but (must earn a crust) I need to be away for a few days - please don't think I lost interest but I'll be travelling.
Thanks again - I would NEVER have twigged the 5-year rule.
Walks
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hi
i am looking for info too. He is my fathers great grandad and can find nothing about him. a relative has been doing the tree for over two years and is still strugling in this area.
please contact me as we maybe able to help each other.
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hello frodob,
Welcome to RootsChat
To send or receive private messages, you need to have made 3 posts.
So get posting and then you and Walks can contact each other.
Is there anything we can help you with??
Suz
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Hi frodob
Yes - no problem - had you heard of Henry as "Hent" - it seems unique.
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hi walks
i have been in contact with other relatives all same either never heard of hent or knew him has hent. But, no reason behind it. I am looking for arthur walker one of henrys sons. I know he married but family tales tell us of 21 children! we have a list of 11 but not sure if tales are right, if so who are they.
hope you can shed some light.
thank you
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Hi frodob
Yes - 11 is MUCH more likely than 21!
I think that I've got 6 of their names - but I don't have Arthur's Wife's name.
This should just about take you to the 3rd post...
Best
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hi
this is my 3rd post this site is fab!
arthur married violet brown
kids :-
roland
stanley
alan
ernnest
violet
irwin (died in the war)
sara
bessie + eileen (Twins)
hope this is a help.
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Marriage FreeBMD
Mar qtr 1910
Bramley
Arthur Walker
Violet Brown
9b 442
these are the children found BMD sept qtr 1911 onwards
all reg in bramley district
all mother's maiden name Brown
Elsie Walker Set qtr 1911 9b 441
Bertha Mar qtr 1913 9b 413
Allan Jun qtr 1913 9b 438
maurice Mar qtr 1915 9b 415
Ernest mar qtr 1916 9b 389
Olive Jun qtr 1918 9b 289
Violet Jun qtr 1919 9b 270
May Jun qtr 1920 9b 582
Arthur mar qtr 1922 9b 419
Basil Jun qtr 1923 9b 43
Irwin Dec qtr 1924 9b 349
Vera Dec qtr 1926 9b 328
Bessie
Eileen Sept qtr 1928 9b328
There is a Roland L Walker mother's maiden name Brown Dec qtr 1912 Bromley (NOT Bramley) 2a 1164- so this would be in London area
It looks like there may have been another couple father Walker mother maiden name brown reg biirths in bramley - as bertha is reg mar 1913 and Allan Jun 1913??
Maybe that is why some have a total of 21 children????
Suz
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This is the death reg's of children from the list above who (look like)didn't survive infancy
Death reg FreeBMD
all Walker children
Ernest Sept qtr 1915 age 0 9b 311
Maurice Sept qtr 1915 age 0 9b 331
Olive mar qtr 1920 age 2 9b 371
Basil sept qtr 1923 age 0 9b 231
May mar qtr 1924 age 3 9b 467
Suz