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Title: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Wednesday 24 September 08 15:10 BST (UK)
Anyone know anything about a blacksmith in Abbeyleix by the name of Daniel McCarthy, late 19th century maybe early 20th.  He was my great grandfather.
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 27 September 08 12:29 BST (UK)
under the commercial section of 1894 Slaters Directory there is :

Carty John, blacksmith
Carty Joseph, blacksmith

in Abbeyleix

could these be connected to Daniel ?

I'll have a look in the earlier directories and let you know if I find anything more..


Shane
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 27 September 08 13:13 BST (UK)
from Slaters 1881 under Abbeyleix :

10 BLACKSMITHS  including

Carty Daniel, Aid Town, Abbeyleix
Carty John, Abbeyleix
Carty Joseph, Abbeyleix

and from 1870 :

Carty John, blacksmith, Abbeyleix


Shane
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: Jack2227 on Saturday 27 September 08 22:33 BST (UK)
Cemetery records Abbeyleix;

Carthy Anna Mary; 60, wife of blacksmith, married, rathmoyle, 2/6/1939

Mc Carthy Mary; 76, wife of blacksmith, married, 19/2/1947

Carthy Jane; 71, domestic, widow, 31/5/1938

Jack
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Wednesday 01 October 08 13:02 BST (UK)
thank you all for your kind assistance, the information I have is my grandfather John got married in Limerick 1915 and stated his father was Daniel McCarthy blacksmith.  My mother told me John her father came form Abbeyleix, other than that I don't have any info. 
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Thursday 03 September 09 16:19 BST (UK)
Hi all

I have tracked down my great grandfather thanks to the online 1911 census.  He was a blacksmith in Tullyroe Abbeyleix.  His son William was also a blacksmith and two daughters were there along with his wife Mary.  My grandfather who went as McCarthy was not present.  I believe there was a connetion with a pub in the town.  i notice there is a pub run by Mooney in the market square, but there are Carthys resident there.  Any local historians have any further info?
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: Jack2227 on Thursday 03 September 09 19:50 BST (UK)
Abbeyleix Heritage Museum might be of assistance, Tom Cox is the manager.
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Thursday 03 September 09 20:13 BST (UK)
thanks SeanMac I'll follow that up
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: feno on Tuesday 20 December 22 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hi,all of the blacksmiths in Abbeyleix  were laterally called Carthy or Carty,they worked in a forge on the Ballinakill Rd.just before the entrance to the hospital,Joseph carthy.he had a brother,Edward, [ned]who was was the local postman, Feno.
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Monday 02 January 23 19:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the reply

My Great grandfather was Daniel Carty who was a blacksmith and had his forge and house  in Tullyroe near Abbeyleix.  The building still exists and has been renovated and occupied by the current owner.  His father was  also called Daniel.  Daniel (ggrandfather), married a lady called Mary McEvoy. The people who ran Mooney's Pub are his descendants and cousins of mine. My grandfather was a John Carty (McCarthy) who trained as a blacksmith but worked in the railway and ended up in Limerick where he met my grandmother.

Looking back I posted some of this already apologies.
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 January 23 21:05 GMT (UK)

My Great grandfather was Daniel Carty who was a blacksmith and had his forge and house  in Tullyroe near Abbeyleix.   


Link-

1901 census
House 51 in Tullyroe (Abbeyleix, Queen's Co.)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Abbeyleix/Tullyroe/1640769/

Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 02 January 23 21:15 GMT (UK)

1911 census for Carthy
House 51 in Tullyroe (Abbeyleix, Queen's Co.)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Abbeyleix/Tullyroe/781490/

Tullyroe townland
https://www.townlands.ie/laois/cullenagh/abbeyleix/abbeyleix/tullyroe/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4575453#map=13/52.9130/-7.3713


Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: feno on Tuesday 03 January 23 08:55 GMT (UK)
Tullyroe is located in Oldtown,so called because it is where the town of Abbeyleix has its roots.
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 03 January 23 09:40 GMT (UK)
Tullyroe is located in Oldtown,so called because it is where the town of Abbeyleix has its roots.

                           ???

Oldtown is on the southern boundary of Tullyroe and about 2km from Main Street, Abbeyleix.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4575453#map=16/52.9079/-7.3731
https://arcg.is/C8uff
(MapGenie 6 Inch First Edition Black)


Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Tuesday 03 January 23 20:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your contributions, John Carty appears in the 1901 census for Tullyroe but is gone 1911.  He was in Queenstown Cobh with the railway and then on to Limerick.  He wife's family, Walsh were a railway family and ran a boarding house near the station.  How matches are made.  Here is a photo of John.  I never knew him as he dies in 1930.

Regards

Tom
Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Wednesday 04 January 23 17:26 GMT (UK)

....John Carty appears in the 1901 census for Tullyroe but is gone 1911.  He was in Queenstown Cobh with the railway and then on to Limerick.  He wife's family, Walsh were a railway family and ran a boarding house near the station.   
........... 
I never knew him as he dies in 1930.


Some links-

So , is this the wedding of John McCarthy to Annie Walsh - 10 November 1915?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09834/5571035.pdf

This presumably was Annie Walsh in the 1911 census.
House 9 in Queen Street (Pt. of) (Limerick No. 5 Urban, Limerick).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Limerick_No__5_Urban/Queen_Street__Pt__of_/632205/

*Queen Street was very close to the railway terminus*
https://arcg.is/0Xe10C  (MapGenie 25 Inch in Basemap Gallery)

His death - 22 November 1930. The informant, his widow Annie McCarthy.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1930/04906/4330395.pdf


Title: Re: Abbeyleix blacksmith
Post by: LimerickLad on Wednesday 04 January 23 20:38 GMT (UK)
Yes you have it all there, Queen St was renamed Davis St in the 1920s.  No 9 still exists, no 8 was owned by Annie Walsh's sister and was still in the family up to 3 years ago.  John and Annie's house still exists in Upper Cecil St.  Quite close to the railway station.

Thank  you for your interest.

Regards

Tom