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Title: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Tuesday 28 October 08 16:14 GMT (UK): (http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/20/derriaghy135smallqk4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

This is a picture I have of Derriaghy Loyal Orange Lodge No. 135 - taken on the 12th July 1934. I would like to try and find out about some of the people in this picture and would hope that perhaps living relatives may come across this and recognise someone in the picture or recognise a name.

Back Row: R Bunting, J Smith, G Wallace, R Hall, John McFarland, P McKinstrey, J McWatters Jun., F Murphy, E Burke, R K Long, J May, R K Megran, S Murland, S Dugan

Middle Row: W J McWatters, R MacHenry, J Berry, D McKinstrey, J McWatters Sen., J Grant, M McCarrell, T Dugan, R Refausse, W Glover Sen., James McFarland, W Refausse, R Taggart, H V Refausse, A Dugan, P McHenry, R Watson

Front Row: F Larmour, E Robinson, W Glover Jun., D G Morrow, R Refausse, W A Long, J Brown, H MacHenry, N Brown, W G Long, A Refausse, G Wright, R J Leckey

Seated Children: T Hall, J Dugan, J Hanna, S Dugan, A May

The actual picture itself is much bigger and very clear so individuals can be blown up and viewed if desired. I would love to hear from anyone who may have a family connection with the lodge and if anyone is interested in a particular individual from the picture, let me know and I will see what I can find.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Christopher on Wednesday 29 October 08 04:38 GMT (UK): Hello fmni,

There's one surname that stands out. I've sent you a PM with the name of a person it might be worthwhile contacting as I'm certain that a family with that surname lived in
the Derriaghy area.

Christopher
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Agnetta on Friday 05 December 08 04:50 GMT (UK): I am interested in your post on several scores. There's one name on the photo - RJ Leckey - he may, or may not, be connected to a William(Billy) Leckey,wno m'd my aunt Martha Mc Dowell.(They lived near Derriaghy church for years,then Seymour Hill) Her sister Mary Mc Dowell m'd a Johnny Hill,from Dunmurry.Another sister,Nancy Mc Dowell m'd Stephen Mc Alister.(my parents) My Blacks and Mc Dowells lived at Lambeg. The Mc Dowells attended Derriaghy C.ofI.
William John Mc Dowell (my grandfather,father of Martha and Mary)came from Magheralin,but lived his life,after marriage to Elizabeth Black,at Lambeg,and died there. ( Elizabeth's sister Jane Black m'd James Irwin and lived at Lambeg too)
In Co Down - I am looking for info on a Henry Mc Carthy/Macaugherty who possibly married a Dolly Titterington c 1825/30 in Moira/Banbridge/Hillsborough area.(my paternal line. Mc Alister/Mc Carthy/Macaugherty)Any help appreciated. Agnetta
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Friday 12 December 08 16:58 GMT (UK): I'm hoping with the imminent release of the 1911 census I will be able to build a better profile of some of these individuals.

Interesting to see you have a Titterington in your clan as well - my Titterington's are from Moira - haven't come across a Dolly as yet though.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Agnetta on Saturday 13 December 08 05:54 GMT (UK): I think "Dolly" is a pet /short name for Dorothy. Agnetta
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Rush1 on Tuesday 23 December 08 18:56 GMT (UK): The photo shows my father, Harold Refausse, when he was 20 and my grandfather Robert when he was 52 both in the middle row. It's hard to tell from the photo but I think the W Refausse is William who would have been 27 and who emigrated to the US, the other R Refausse a Robert Anthony and the A Refausse an Anthony who would have been about 56.

Is it possible to get a copy of the photograph?
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Wednesday 24 December 08 12:13 GMT (UK): Rush, I will send you a PM. I remember "H.V." as he was known in the lodge very well - and he would have been good friends with my own father. To be honest I have been trying to track down his relatives for quite a while!
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Tuesday 06 January 09 19:36 GMT (UK): Rush1, here is both your father and grandfather close up in the photograph...

Harold Refausse:

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3432/hrefaussesm9.jpg)

Robert Refausse:

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8866/rrefausseyy0.jpg)

I would still be keen to chat with you about their involvement in the lodge and hopefully get to you a copy of the full picture, would be nice for you to have considering how many relatives are in it.

Regards,
Mark
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: maggieblue on Sunday 11 January 09 17:52 GMT (UK): Hi

I would be interested to know if you know anymore about F Larmour. My Larmours' are from this area.

Maggie
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: flower123 on Thursday 11 June 09 22:55 BST (UK): fmni
Thank you for photograph of above subject. I think R. Watson may have been my great uncle , Richard Watson. I have been trying to trace the family back through his brother Anthony. According to 1911 cencus I think their parents were Eleanor and James living at 37 Lagmore Derriaghy. Anthony was my grandfather.
If anyone else reading this could help me it would be much appreciated.
Anthony lived and worked at Lagmore Reservoir and died Dec 1938 when his son also Anthony [known as Tony] took over his duties, and was there until the 1970s.
Sadly the reservoir has gone but I have happy childhood memories of a beautiful place.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Wednesday 17 June 09 12:01 BST (UK): I've attached the oldest photograph we have of another lodge in the District, Falls L.O.L. 498.

Unfortunately the names of those in the photograph are not recorded however it is thought the photograph was taken between 1919 & 1925. It was taken outside McCance House which is now part of Colin Glen Forest Park.

It is a long shot, but if anyone recognises people in this photo or believe their relatives where a member of the lodge please do not hesitate to comment.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: sstirer on Sunday 18 October 09 18:12 BST (UK): R McFarland and J McFarland are my grandfather's brothers. Robert and James. Their sister Alice Adamson was the W District Mistress of Derriaghy WLOL at one time. My Grandfater was William Fair McFarland, he moved to the Low Road area of Lisburn about 40s or 50s where he lived until his death in 1973.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Thursday 29 October 09 22:46 GMT (UK): I just love the pictures that have been put up for everyone. My grandfather Boomer Partridge was in the LOL 602 in Derriaghy. If anyone else has any link or pictures to them I would appreciate it. I do have a picture but don't know how to put it online.

fmni, the second post was from Christopher and he sent you a pm with a name. He was doing a lot of research for me on the belfast site. I was wondering if it was Boomer Partridge or a Leckey.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: kingskerswell on Friday 30 October 09 08:08 GMT (UK): Flower 123,
I have just noticed the detail of your posting and have found:-

25 Feb 1882 James Watson married Ellenor Crowe in Derriaghy Church of Ireland, Lisburn.

Regards
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Friday 30 October 09 10:09 GMT (UK): Quote from: Mykin on Thursday 29 October 09 22:46 GMT (UK)
I just love the pictures that have been put up for everyone. My grandfather Boomer Partridge was in the LOL 602 in Derriaghy. If anyone else has any link or pictures to them I would appreciate it. I do have a picture but don't know how to put it online.

fmni, the second post was from Christopher and he sent you a pm with a name. He was doing a lot of research for me on the belfast site. I was wondering if it was Boomer Partridge or a Leckey.

Hi mykin,

your post has me intrigued! I've come across the Boomer Partridge name before but can't remember where.... the Partridge surname is prolific in the Orange Order in Derriaghy towards the end of the 1800s. However, there has never been an LOL 602 in the Derriaghy area. LOL602 are from the Hillsborough area, namely Tullynore LOL 602. Where have you got the 602 number from - is it the picture? The earliest reference I have to a 'Partridge' is John Partridge, who was Worshipful Master of Derriaghy LOL 135 in 1856 and again a reference to him still being W.M. in 1875. A roll book was recently found for Royal Black Preceptory Number 2, Juniper's Tree dating from the 1800s - they were also based in Derriaghy, in the last entry of that book from 1880 a James Partridge is named.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: fmni on Friday 30 October 09 10:10 GMT (UK): also the name Christopher was referring to was the Refausse surname, sorry!
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: flower123 on Friday 30 October 09 14:41 GMT (UK): Hi kingskerswell.
This is already posted under the heading "missing birth cert for Watson"but I have not managed to get any further. Both James and Ellen's fathers were named James. All names get no results. I must be doing something wrong.
There is a James Watson in a family grave, date 1915 aged 88 years but nothing inbetween.
Another James W 30 12 1926 aged 65 lived at Colin.
Unfortunately Derriaghy Parish Church had their computor stolen about 5 years ago and the records already micro filmed are now with Proni, which is too expensive for me.
Thanks for your interest.
flower
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Saturday 31 October 09 16:52 GMT (UK): Hello fmni,

John Partridge is my great grandfather. They lived in Aughalislone, Dunmurry,Derriaghy.

I have Boomer's (my grandfather) articles from the LOL and R.B.P. in Derriaghy.
His number with his medals are LOL 602. His R.B.P as 292.
When he came to Toronto his LOL number was 711.

I don't know about the change of location to Hillsborough, except the woman he married was from there, Jane Leckey, my grandmother.
John Partridge had a son James, B. 1857

I appreciate the information that was in your last email. I will stay on this site for sure.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Magheragall on Friday 04 December 09 17:27 GMT (UK): Joseph Murphy of Kilcorig

I have a typed note from June 1919 which reads

"Joe Murphy's grandfather William lived opposite Greenfields brought first two numbers of L.O.L. to Magheragall, gave one to Boomer in Derriaghy."
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Magheragall on Friday 04 December 09 17:47 GMT (UK): with your interest I thought you might be interested in this note as well,

Royal Orange Association County Antrim District
The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson of Belfast Grand Master
The Revd Philip Johnston Grand Chaplain
Brother William Hart of Lisburn Grand Secretary

General Committee

The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson Grand Master Chairman

Edward Hogg Esq 354 Lisburn
The Revd Philip Johnston 317 Ballymacash
Thomas McCully 224 Soliderstown
Michael Boomer 137 Derriaghy
Stephen Daniel 238 Belfast
James Innes 152 Lisburn
John Johnston 244 Lisburn
Thomas Briggs 121 Maze
William Johnston 143 Ballinderry
Thomas Shillington 403 Aghagallon
William Murphy 146 Magheragall*
William Hart Grand Secretary

This was the First County Grand Lodge formed April 1798

From a Lecture given by Brother James Verner Hart at the request of the Brethen of the Eldon Orange Lodge No 7 in their rooms in the Orange Hall College Street Belfast March 8th 1875.

* GG Father of James Murphy of Thornhedge
* James Murphy believes that one masonic lodge met in Thornhedge

the writing looks like thornhedge but i know of no such place
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Friday 18 December 09 15:31 GMT (UK): Hi fmni, While reading the Christ Church Derriaghy pages again, I see on p.14 part 11.It speaks of freemasonry in Derriaghy.
"Before 1780 a number of Freemasons were meeting informally at Milltown Inn (Travellers Rest) owned by the Alderdice family. In 1782 they applied for a Warrant, and the selected name was St.Patricks and the warrant was 602." The place got too small and William Alderdice of the Inn, a member of the Lodge,offered a site and the decision to build was in 1888 after the continuous occupation of 106 years, the LOdge held their last meeting in the Inn.

"In the year 1889, a formation of a Royal Arch Chapter was done and their number was also 602.
What is the Royal Arch Chapter?
The chapter now meet at Derriaghy Hall.

Now, My grandfathers badges on the scarf say L.O.L 602. And The son of John Partridge, Boomer, my grandfather have always been Orange so this is confusing.
As the Freemasons and the L.O.L aren't connected, do you think there was a mistake in the church's writings?

If you can find anything on the chapter that met at the Inn, that should solve that query.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Monday 21 December 09 16:42 GMT (UK): Quote from: Magheragall on Friday 04 December 09 17:27 GMT (UK)
Josephy Murphy of Kilcorig

I have a typed note from June 1919 which reads

"Joe Murphy's grandfather William lived opposite Greenfields brought first two numbers of L.O.L. to Magheragall, gave one to Boomer in Derriaghy."
*****************************************************************
Hi Magheragall, thank you for this information.
Do you know what the note was about?
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Magheragall on Monday 21 December 09 23:45 GMT (UK): Well its "Various Notes" made by a man between 1906 and 1940. The notes were to be used to write a history but he never got that far.

The particular note above was one of the many thoughts that Joseph Murphy shared in June 1919 and it was noted down by the historian. So they don't always make a lot of sense because they are notes taken of a conversation and then typed up. The history was never written. Its a wee bit of oral history noted down and perhaps to FMNI it makes a bit of sense seeing he/she is into Orange history in Derriaghy.

I posted it because it seems to tell a story, Joes grandfather William who lived opposite the Greenfields got the first two numbers of L.O.L and gave one to Boomer in Derriaghy and kept the other for magheragall.

I hope that helped you
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Friday 25 December 09 13:04 GMT (UK): That information is indeed useful. Now I know who their close neighbour was. I believe now that they were best friends, of course being "brothers" in the Lodge, but also Boomer named one of his sons Joseph and I always wondered where that name came from.It wasn't a tradional name for that family.
Thank you again. That makes me happy. :)
Merry Christmas
Title: Larmours
Post by: Al L. on Wednesday 01 December 10 18:35 GMT (UK): Hi: Just signed up and saw your invitation to research Larmours. Here's a brief outline of my Larmours (of what we know todate):
Samuel and Jenny Larmour (nee Ballagh) of Ballymiscaw (no marriage reg as yet)
Children:
William Larmour (1845)...bapt at Dundonald: remained at Ballymiscaw and later Moscow St. Belfast, likely buried at Dundonald, St Elizabeths church
Nathaniel Larmour(1844) and Ellinor Moore Ballyskeagh(my grt grandfather who came to Canada in 1875)
Mary (1842) baptised at Dundonald
Robert (1841) came to Canada
Samuel (1840) came to Canada
Letitia (1838, baptised at Dundonald)
Jane (1837) believed to have come to Canada with brothers
James (1835/36) came to Canada about 1860
John (1831) came to Canada with spouse, Marion Miller, and daughter, Jane (1855)
My uncle said their were apparently 16 children. We know that their mother Jenny died in 1875 and possibly their father in 1867. Likely the remaining children that we don't know about were born prior to John in 1831
Needing to obtain : marriage registration for John Larmour and Marion Miller (Born1834/35) and married Sept 25, 1854 at Ballymacarrett.
Any ideas how to obtain the death registration for William Larmour and his spouse, Sarah Jane Larmour (died 1932 I believe) (nee Mawhinney); both probably buried at Dundonald (St Elizabeths church at the Larmour grave site). Seems the church does not have these records. Of course we're (the Larmons in Ontario......I live in BC) always looking for the Larmours born prior to 1831 to Samuel and Jenny Larmour......may have lived elsewheres in Ireland prior to Ballymiscaw.

Lastly and important.... confusion in the name: all the Larmons here in BC and Ontario provinces were known as larmons; in Ireland they were all known as larmours(!); however on marriage documents of william and nathaniel. it is spelled both ways. Spent a lot of time going in the wrong direction, even when we were in Ireland in 1999! Thanks so much, Al
Title: Larmour history
Post by: Al L. on Thursday 02 December 10 21:15 GMT (UK): Hi: I'm new to this site and somewhere on it (!) I posted information about my Larmour family history. Saw your notes here and wondered if you picked up my message, Al
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: mishapee2 on Tuesday 22 February 11 23:46 GMT (UK): Hello

My name is Karen McCarthy. I am a descendant of William & Dorothea McCarthy. I think your Dolly titterington is my Dorothea McCarthy.

Please contact me...

Karen
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Stiubhard on Monday 19 March 12 18:19 GMT (UK): Quote from: Mykin on Saturday 31 October 09 16:52 GMT (UK)
Hello fmni,

John Partridge is my great grandfather. They lived in Aughalislone, Dunmurry,Derriaghy.

I have Boomer's (my grandfather) articles from the LOL and R.B.P. in Derriaghy.
His number with his medals are LOL 602. His R.B.P as 292.
When he came to Toronto his LOL number was 711.

I don't know about the change of location to Hillsborough, except the woman he married was from there, Jane Leckey, my grandmother.
John Partridge had a son James, B. 1857

I appreciate the information that was in your last email. I will stay on this site for sure.

My great grandfather, William John (Willie John) Young married Sarah Partridge in Johnstone, Renfrewshire, on the 17th of July 1874. Sarah's father was Thomas Partridge and her mother was Mary Jane Scales, of the Partridge family from Derriaghy. They returned to Northern Ireland where their first child, Dorothea, was born in Lisburn. Dorothea sadly died in infancy. Sarah's sister Lucy married a guy called Paddy Matthews who was a boot and shoe maker in Chapel Hill, Lisburn. One of my great uncles remembered going with my great grandfather to visit Paddy, and remembered being told that he had fought in the Zulu war. Unlike the Partridges, the Matthews family were RC. Paddy and Lucy had nine sons and a daughter, and one of their sons, William, was killed on the 24th March 1918 while serving with the 2nd battalion of the Royal Irish Rifles. I have found that earlier generations of Partridges sometimes spelled the name as 'Patridge' without the first 'r'.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Wednesday 21 March 12 13:38 GMT (UK): Hello stiubhard,
Thanks for joining us in this topic. We seem to have all of the same names and places but haven't made the connection yet.
What were the names of the other children from Sarah and William?
When was William John Born?
I have a Thomas from about 1758 and a son Thomas from about 25 years later. The name probably should have continued but there is a blank space in my information from the 1780's approx to 1810 with the birth of John Partridge,
I have a Dorothea but she lived for about 60 yrs.
What church did your people attend? Mine were at Christ Church Derriaghy, and Lisburn Cathedral.
Hopefully we can make a connection. mykin
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Stiubhard on Wednesday 21 March 12 16:55 GMT (UK): Hi Mykin. The Young family connection to Lisburn/Derriaghy seems to be through Sarah Partridge. Willie John Young was born in Dublin around 1853 and the pair were married while they were both living in Scotland, so it could be that they met there. It says on the marriage certificate that they were married "according to the rites of the English Church", so Anglican, but on the 1901 and 1911 censuses the family is listed as Methodist. After the birth (and death) in 1975 there was another daughter, Martha, born possibly in Lisburn in 1876. The family then returned to Scotland where the next five children were born in Partick: Lucinda c1880, William c1882, James (my grandfather) 1883, Sarah c1886 and Thomas c1888. They then came back to Belfast where the remaining five children were born: Frederick Arnot c1890; Francis c1891; Elizabeth c1893, Walter Fisher c1895 and George c1899. I don't know what the Arnot and Fisher connection is, perhaps they are related to the Partridges? Sarah was 19 when she married in 1874 so she was born around 1855. Her sister Lucy was born around 1865. The dates for their mother, Mary Jane Partridge (Scales) would appear to be c1828 to 1878 so a good guess might be that her husband Thomas was a couple of years older, so maybe born around 1825? There is a death for a Thomas Partridge born 1824 died in the first quarter of 1887 in the Civil Registration Index for Belfast might be worth exploring.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Thursday 22 March 12 14:08 GMT (UK): Hi again, I cannot find anything that comes up under the heading of civil registration Index, online Belfast some of them turn into Family search. Do you have to go there in person? I live in Canada.
I am still going to keep on with all of your names and try to connect. I checked the gravestones at Derriaghy but didn't see anyPartridges of yours there, which just means there wasn't a marker on the grave. Maybe the Lisburn Cathedral will turn up something.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 22 March 12 14:19 GMT (UK): The Irish civil registration index is online (free) at www.familysearch.org. The actual certificates are not online. Some extracted birth, deaths and marriages are alos on LDS site but the collections are not complete for the dates listed-
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: MulhollandHart on Tuesday 17 July 12 12:07 BST (UK): with your interest I thought you might be interested in this note as well,

Royal Orange Association County Antrim District
The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson of Belfast Grand Master
The Revd Philip Johnston Grand Chaplain
Brother William Hart of Lisburn Grand Secretary

General Committee

The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson Grand Master Chairman

Edward Hogg Esq 354 Lisburn
The Revd Philip Johnston 317 Ballymacash
Thomas McCully 224 Soliderstown
Michael Boomer 137 Derriaghy
Stephen Daniel 238 Belfast
James Innes 152 Lisburn
John Johnston 244 Lisburn
Thomas Briggs 121 Maze
William Johnston 143 Ballinderry
Thomas Shillington 403 Aghagallon
William Murphy 146 Magheragall*
William Hart Grand Secretary

This was the First County Grand Lodge formed April 1798

From a Lecture given by Brother James Verner Hart at the request of the Brethen of the Eldon Orange Lodge No 7 in their rooms in the Orange Hall College Street Belfast March 8th 1875.

I think the William Hart mentioned here might be my Great Grandfathers brother. I know he lived in Derrighay in 1911 and my Gx2 and my great grandfathers were both Orangemen. I think his wife's name was Annie from Drunmore(? handwriting) and he came from Lambeg.

I would love to know a bit more if there is any.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Lousy Borne on Sunday 19 August 12 19:27 BST (UK): William Hart was origionally from Churchill in County Armagh In 1796 he was working in Lisburn as a clerk in the offices of Lord Hertford
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: nabrowne on Monday 26 November 12 09:20 GMT (UK): I would be most interested in obtaining a copy of this picture as two of my Great Uncles are in it. How could I go about this?

Regards
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Rosniak on Thursday 03 January 13 22:25 GMT (UK): My 2 x great grandfather Thomas Clarke was district master of Magheragall District in the 1880s and master of Lodge No. 1180 (not sure which one this was? It must have been in Magheragall/Derriaghy district).

His son John Clarke was a master of Brookhill Star and Garter RBP No. 579 and also a member of Oak Masonic Lodge 326, Ballinderry in the 1920s.

Would there be any photos/information available of any of these lodges? I would probably be able to identify the men in question.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: maggieblue on Wednesday 09 January 13 17:38 GMT (UK): FAO mykin & stiubhard

I am sure you maybe have this information but I am currently transcribing alot of Derriaghy Parish registers, not in full but near enough.... I came across this marriage entry

8th Sept 1838 David Boomer of Lambeg and Dorothy Partridge Derriaghy.

Maggie
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: maggieblue on Wednesday 09 January 13 17:42 GMT (UK): Quote from: mishapee2 on Tuesday 22 February 11 23:46 GMT (UK)
Hello

My name is Karen McCarthy. I am a descendant of William & Dorothea McCarthy. I think your Dolly titterington is my Dorothea McCarthy.

Please contact me...

Karen

Hi Karen

I also found this marriage entry in Derriaghy Parish Church

16th November 1839 John Christian v Ann McCarthy

Maggie
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: George87 on Monday 04 March 13 23:35 GMT (UK): Hi Maggie,

I just read your post which caught my attention. I too am researching in the Derriaghy, Lisburn and Magheragall areas and also have transcribed some of the Derriaghy registers. I would love to compare notes!

George
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Stiubhard on Tuesday 05 March 13 08:23 GMT (UK): Hi Maggie

Re your post about the Boomers and the Partridges, I haven't really looked at the Partridge connection yet....the only two I know for sure are my great Grandmother (Sarah) and her sister Lucy (Matthews)...and of course their parents Thomas and Mary Jane (Scales). I know that there was also a connection with the McWatters because it was mentioned in a few conversations when my grandmother was alive but I can't remember now what it was...I believe it may have been a case of the wrong side of the blanket ;) The only other thing that intrigued me was that apparently there something my great granny Partridge used to say as a kind of reprimand which was "Ach, yer granda betrayed Munro". That would surely have to be Henry Munro the leader of the Lisburn United Irishmen who was betrayed and executed in 1798. I have often wondered...
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: maggieblue on Monday 11 March 13 16:19 GMT (UK): lol just seen this after replying to one of your posts. My old email account was hacked so never got the message. If you make another post you can PM me.

Maggie
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: George87 on Monday 11 March 13 18:37 GMT (UK): Hi Maggie,

Thanks so so much! I have sent a PM to you - I hope ;D. Let me know if you don't get it.

G
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: ozstock on Monday 14 October 13 03:44 BST (UK): Hi Maggie.

i Have just read your post, from earlier this year, regarding transcribing Derriaghy Parish Registers. I am in Australia and unable to access local records easily. I am looking for any information on the McCabes who lived in Lambeg and Derriaghy from the lates 1800s. I believe some of them are buried in Derriaghy. If there are any records you could suggest that I could access from here online I would appreciate it.
I have exhausted all the usual sources and I believe parish records are my best hope now.
Many thanks
Angela
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Margaret Vaughan on Saturday 18 January 14 15:03 GMT (UK): My grandfather James May and father Arthur May appear in this photo I would be interested in
Finding out about previous generations of the family.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 19 January 14 11:13 GMT (UK): Welcome to Rootschat, Margaret :)

Your reuest for more information on your May family is likely to get missed as this Derriaghy thread is quite long,. If you click on 'report to moderator' just ask for your post onwards to be split off to a new topic here on the Antrim board.

It will help if you can give us a bit more information (without mentioning living people)- for example dates would help identify which records can be checked.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Magheragall on Saturday 24 May 14 22:42 BST (UK): In respect of May family, the inscription below on 1st War Memorial in Derriaghy Parish Church, he survived the war

L/C N. May M.M. 11th RIR

magheragall
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Wednesday 06 August 14 19:52 BST (UK): Quote from: maggieblue on Wednesday 09 January 13 17:38 GMT (UK)
FAO mykin & stiubhard

I am sure you maybe have this information but I am currently transcribing alot of Derriaghy Parish registers, not in full but near enough.... I came across this marriage entry

8th Sept 1838 David Boomer of Lambeg and Dorothy Partridge Derriaghy.

Maggie
Hi Maggie, I haven't been on here for quite some time, my brain needed a rest. The above is strange because that is my name. I am copying this down until I can put all of my clues together. My goal is to find where a Partridge first married a Boomer that is connected to me.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Magheragall on Saturday 01 November 14 21:01 GMT (UK): Quote from: Magheragall on Friday 04 December 09 17:47 GMT (UK)
with your interest I thought you might be interested in this note as well,

Royal Orange Association County Antrim District
The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson of Belfast Grand Master
The Revd Philip Johnston Grand Chaplain
Brother William Hart of Lisburn Grand Secretary

General Committee

The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson Grand Master Chairman

Edward Hogg Esq 354 Lisburn
The Revd Philip Johnston 317 Ballymacash
Thomas McCully 224 Soliderstown
Michael Boomer 137 Derriaghy
Stephen Daniel 238 Belfast
James Innes 152 Lisburn
John Johnston 244 Lisburn
Thomas Briggs 121 Maze
William Johnston 143 Ballinderry
Thomas Shillington 403 Aghagallon
William Murphy 146 Magheragall*
William Hart Grand Secretary

This was the First County Grand Lodge formed April 1798

From a Lecture given by Brother James Verner Hart at the request of the Brethen of the Eldon Orange Lodge No 7 in their rooms in the Orange Hall College Street Belfast March 8th 1875.

* GG Father of James Murphy of Thornhedge
* James Murphy believes that one masonic lodge met in Thornhedge

the writing looks like thornhedge but i know of no such place

I said that I was unaware of were Thornhedge was, I have discovered it is actually a farm very close to the hall were LOL 187 meet. See headstone below from nearby grave yard

Erected
By
Joseph Thomson
Thornhedge in memory of his daughter
Isabella Thomson who departed this
Life 28th October A.D. 1829. Aged 22 years
Mary Thompson departed this life March
31st 1839 aged 79 years
Joseph Thompson departed this life August
3rd 1845 aged 84 years.
Margaret Thompson departed this life
December 25th 1859 aged 55 years

yours magheragall
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Mykin on Wednesday 19 November 14 16:06 GMT (UK): Thank you very much Magheragall, every little bit helps. I notice that Michael Boomer comes up an awful lot, I think I should see what I can find on him and his family. This is very frustrating for me and find I am taking more rests from it that I should.
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: zorknapp on Thursday 18 June 15 03:01 BST (UK): Hello!

It's great to see this thread, as my great-great-great-grandparents were John Partridge and Jane Alderdice of Derriaghy. Their marriage record continues to be missing, no matter what leads I follow up...

I am hoping as more records are digitized and organized, that perhaps their marriage record was simply mis-filed. I am also willing to at least entertain the idea that they were never formally married, but I think that's fairly unlikely.

John and Jane's second son, William, immigrated to the US in 1888 with his wife and family, among whom was my great-grandfather, Robert. They settled in Kearny, New Jersey, actually quite close to where I presently live in Jersey City.

William's brother John came over to the US, and lived in Kearny also. His sister Ellen came over in 1907 and stayed with William briefly, but then moved up to Toronto where she married a guy named Hugh Houston.

Still tracking down other Partridge descendants. It's great to see all this talk on here about Derriaghy!

Mike Lord
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: Stiubhard on Sunday 26 January 20 11:43 GMT (UK): Mykin and Maggieblue...just fyi I have just this week got my dna results from Ancestry and have linked them to my tree. Zorknapp is showing as a dna match. There are Boomers, Alderdices and McWatters scattered through the matches as well as the Partridges. You can check it out if you like. My profile on there is stiubhard and my tree is called Stewart/Lyons/McKenna/Young/Smith
Title: Re: Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934
Post by: zorknapp on Sunday 26 January 20 19:13 GMT (UK): Hi stiubhard!

Glad we're showing as a DNA match, so we can confirm that there is some sort of Partridge connection!

I've added in the Thomas Partridge/Mary Jane Scales line to my tree. It's great to see some of this old history get filled in...

More soon!
Mike Lord

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