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Title: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: Welsh Joan on Thursday 30 October 08 16:13 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the birth of my 2 x gt grandfather born 1822.  On the 3 census returns I have found it states he was born in Skipton Craven, Gisbourne or Gargrave.
I know from his marriage cert that his father was also James.
Can anyone help me find anymore details of his family.
Many thanks
Joan
Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: wood.mjm on Thursday 30 October 08 20:11 GMT (UK)

  Hi Joan.
       IGI has a Christening of a James Knowles  on 25 Feb 1823
                              Thornton-in-Craven

        Father James Knowles     Mother  Ruth

    Looks possible to me.

 Woody.

ps   James Knowles married Ruth Cowgill  on  17 May 1812
                 Thornton-in-Craven.
Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: Welsh Joan on Thursday 30 October 08 20:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Woody

I had seen this birth to James and Ruth but have reservations as to whether this is my James.
Normally the mother's name was handed down but I have no Ruth's at all in the family so makes me wonder if this is the one.
Thnaks for looking
Joan
Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: patrish on Thursday 30 October 08 23:31 GMT (UK)
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Normally the mother's name was handed down but I have no Ruth's at all in the family so makes me wonder if this is the one.

I dont think you should discount it just  because of that, names were not always passed down through families .

The date, area and fathers name match up that Woody has found.
Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: patrish on Thursday 30 October 08 23:40 GMT (UK)
There are more children born to this couple in Thornton-in-Craven

James  ch. 13.6.1813

Pheobe ch. 5.2.1815

Elizabeth  ch. 11.5.1817 .

Ann ch. 29.8.1819

William  ch. 19.2.1826

I would imagine the first James did not survive .

 Extracted records.   Are any of these names familiar  ???
Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: Welsh Joan on Friday 31 October 08 18:48 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for looking up this info.

The only name that is in the family is Elizabeth.

I will see if I can follow any of the other siblings to the 1841 census, it might just give me some leads.

I do wonder if the family had moved to Lancs before James was baptised, will look into this also.

Joan
Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: wood.mjm on Saturday 01 November 08 15:25 GMT (UK)
   Ruth Cowgill  b.1784  Christened  11June.

         Father John Cowgill       Mother Elizabeth

    They wouldn't have to move far from Thornton-in-Craven to be in Lancashire. You could just about spit that far !!

Title: Re: Birth James Knowles 1822
Post by: Welsh Joan on Sunday 02 November 08 16:53 GMT (UK)

I have been doing some searching and have found a William b1826 married and living in the same area as my James.  According to the census he was born in Gargnraf(1851) and Garguff(1861) N Yorks, I am assuming this could be Gargrave.  If this is so he could well be James's brother and the link I have been looking for.

It is looking more than likely that James and Ruth are my James's parents, I have not been able to find them in the 1841 census.  I shall carry on seaching.

Thanks for your help.

Joan