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Title: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: Gemsgirl on Saturday 05 February 05 14:24 GMT (UK)
My first posting on this site!

I have been researching my BATSTONE family who appear in the 1851 Census in Chard Somerset.

Robert Batstone was listed as being born in Chard about 1814 and married Eliza Taylor about 1835 in Chard. Does anyone have access to the Chard parish records or would be prepared to look up the marriage and baptisms for me?
I would dearly love to find out more about my GGGGrandparents. :)

Can't believe I havn't discovered this site before!
Thankyou
Title: Re: Batstone family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: thenry13461 on Saturday 19 February 05 17:05 GMT (UK)
I am a Batstone through my Grandmother.  I have done much research throughout Devon, Somerset, New Zealand, Australia and here in the United States.  Chard is only about 20 miles North East of Axminster which is the center of activity for my early Batstone ancesters which I have back to 1645.  There is an additonal line of Batstone that are currenly traced back to 1679 and make up much of the New Zealand and Austrailian Batstones.  The probably cross somewhere prior to the dates we have but until we finid that individual they are considered two separate lines.

I will dig through my data and see what I have on Chard and Batstones.  A quick glance shows a William Batstone dieing in Chard at age 82 in March of 1881.  I also have 13 Batstones born in Chard in the 1840's.

I will continue to search my records and post them here.
Title: Re: Batstone family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: Gemsgirl on Thursday 24 February 05 19:45 GMT (UK)
Thankyou  "THenry" - at last a fellow Batstone Researcher!
I would be very grateful if you would be able to help me - most of the other Batstones seem to be in Devon.
Regards
Title: Re: Batstone family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: thenry13461 on Thursday 03 March 05 20:25 GMT (UK)
Chard Batstone Birth/Marriage/Death from the registry
     John died Dec 1840
     Benjamine born dec 1841
     Mary Anna died Dec 1843
     Benjamine born dec 1847
     Naomi born jun 1850
     Selina Dorcas born sep 1852
     Mary Anna died Jun 1858
     Francis died Mar 1863
     Ann married Mar 1867
     Eliza died Jun 1868 age 52
     Elizabeth died Sep 1878 age 73
     Gertrude born Mar 1879
     Laura Mabel born Sep 1880
     William died Mar 1881 age 82
     Alice Emma born Mar 1883
     Lilian Bessie born Mar 1884
     Beatrice Annie born Mar 1885
     Alice Married Jun 1885
     Selina Maud died Jun 1890 age 1
     William James married Jun 1892
     Ada born Jun 1893
     Ada died June 1893 age 0
     John Died Jun 1894 age 86
     Herbert Newton married Dec 27, 1897 he is in my line
          married ALice England of Merriott Somerset
               Had 4 children
                    Ada Newton born 9/16/1899 in East Lambrook
                    Annie Winifred Stark born 4/24/1903 South Pertheron
                    Herbert England born 11/7/1906 South Pertheron
                    ALice Irene born 6/8/1914 London House
          Herbert's parents were  William Stark Batstone and Mary Jane Newton he was 1 of 4 children.  both born in Luppitt Devon
     Alice Ethel P born Dec 1905
     Robert died Mar 1909 age 60
     Beatrice Annie married Jun 1909
     Walter G.C. married Sep 1910

Chard is only about 4  or 5 miles from Axminster and many many Batstones originated in that area.  I would be happy to send you my Batstone file from 1500/1600/1700/1800/1900 england but I cannot on this forum.

Title: Re: Batstone family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: Rahnee on Tuesday 06 December 05 00:25 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone
I am also a Batstone researcher...Batstone being my maiden name.  My gggrandfather John Batstone was born in Axminster in 1849 to Charles Batstone and Eleanor Griffin.  He died in Australia in 1899.  Charles father was Robert Batstone and mother Elizabeth Kibby and Roberts parents were Thomas Batstone and Joanna Mare.  I would love to hear from anyone searching this family.
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Regards
Suzanne
Title: Re: Batstone family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: flora-mae on Wednesday 19 March 08 22:07 GMT (UK)
Ahaa!!  I too am researching the Batstone Family of Chard, Somerset. I've discovered that my Fathers'  Paternal Grandmother appears in the 1891 (and I know for CERTAIN that I have the correct record)as Helen Hancock b. c.1861 Chard, married to Francis Hancock b. Fen Ditton, Cambridge. It appears that by  1901 they had moved to Cambridge, but her name is recorded as ORPHA; correct age, b. Chard. Now, Orpha was/is NOT a common name, so further investigations found in the 1871 ELLEN Batstone living with an elder married sister and another elder sister. I've discovered to my annoyance that those Innumerators were not always careful when entering information - also that people LIED left-right-and-centre too! Doesn't make it easier for us poor devils in the future to research their Families!  Anyway, I believe Helen/Ellen/Orpha was one and the same person.  I believe she had sisters named Helah, Elizabeth and Selina. I believe one of her sisters married an Adolphus REISS.

If anyone can enlighten me further, I would be really REALLY grateful!

Ta muchley,

Flora-Mae
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: dee-jay on Tuesday 25 March 08 03:26 GMT (UK)
According to their 1861 Census return at Clarke's Row, Chard, Robert BATSTONE's daughter Orpha was aged 4 years.

There is a GRO civil registration of this child's birth as Ellen Orpha BATSTONE 3Q 1857 ref:  Chard 5c 471 and, as I've not located a baptism for her at Chard St Mary's, it is likely the family were Nonconformists.

We should not denigrate the poor census enumerator's efforts!  His information was only as good as that provided by the family and, I dare say, some took great delight in giving inconsistent information.  I speak from experience having had a Grandfather of Nonconformist stock who changed identity with a first Christian name not given at birth or Anglican and LDS baptisms, and compounded matters by knocking 5 years off his age at marriage to a young bride!  It took years to sort out his records and even at death his correct age had not caught up with him.

Chard St Mary's Marriage
No. 137 18 Oct 1835 by Banns
Robert BATSTONE (sgd) Bachelor of this Parish
Eliza TYTHERLEIGH (x) Spinster of this Parish
Witnesses:  William BATSTONE (x);  Eml MUTTON (a regular)

GRO Death refs:
2Q 1868 Eliza BATSTONE aged 52 Chard 5c 286
2Q 1870 Robert BATSTONE aged 57 Chard 5c 339


Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: dee-jay on Wednesday 26 March 08 02:09 GMT (UK)
There was a 'glitch' when I posted my previous message which stopped the subject from being 'bumped' up the list, so it appears that there was no response.  Hope this remedies the problem.
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: flora-mae on Wednesday 26 March 08 09:36 GMT (UK)
Morning Dee-Jay!  Many thanks for your reply, I think you DO have the correct family. There weren't many Orphas about.

Chard St Mary's Marriage
No. 137 18 Oct 1835 by Banns
Robert BATSTONE (sgd) Bachelor of this Parish
Eliza TYTHERLEIGH (x) Spinster of this Parish
Witnesses:  William BATSTONE (x);  Eml MUTTON (a regular)

This is wonderful information - I bet you didn't get THIS via the internet did you?  I feel pretty disappointed at the lack of Parish Record info that's available - although of course, I could well be looking in the wrong direction.

I didn't think ordinary people did things like alter names/birthdates etc for official purposes!  I thought back in those times, especially the 'ordinary' folk were all God-fearing people and did EVERYTHING by the book.  I was wrong then!

I've looked for Orpha's birth info but come up a blank.

Thanks again Dee-Jay,

Flora-Mae
XX

PS - I have a Photo of Orpha/Ellen/Helen taken during WWI with 2 of her sons if you're interested![/color]
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Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Somerset
Post by: BLUE ROSE on Thursday 01 April 10 21:08 BST (UK)
Hi

Looking for relatives of my GGG Grandmother Maria Batstone Born 1811?? who married to John Shepherd Born 1814.
I know they had a daughter they named Mary Ann who married Joshua Wynn from Bridgwater Somerset.

Rose
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: Djiuce on Monday 09 August 10 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi
 I just found this site this morning by Googleing my GGrandmother .She was Elizabeth Laura Riess( n Batstone ). She married Adolphus Riess.
As of the 1881 census they had 3 children  Frances Anna 15yrs, Augustus Benjm 14 yrs , and Orpha Amelia 5yrs

 Does this help you in any way? I am new to this family history searching and would appreciate any help I can get.
  This info came from the Family History Library of the Mormon church in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Since I moved I no longer have access to it. :(
  Thanks for reading this

 DJ 
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: oldbiker on Tuesday 17 August 10 21:47 BST (UK)
Susanna Batstone married William Bond at Axminster in 1801. They were my GGG GPs----has Thenry perhaps any information on Susanna's parentage perhaps?. I posted a similar enquiry on the Devon pages a couple of months back but nobody commented.

Thanks

oldbiker
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: dee-jay on Wednesday 18 August 10 01:21 BST (UK)
Hi oldbiker

Have you seen or attempted to obtain a copy of Susanna's marriage entry in the Parish Register?  The details could assist us in identifying to which families both parties belonged.  This was at the start of the 'golden' era for coaching in the West Country, which enabled mobility outside the usual '12 mile rule', so it would be useful to know to which parish each belonged and the marital status of each.

I see on the FamilySearch site that they had 4  children baptized at Axminster, the eldest named Robert 04 Apr 1802.  If the Susana recorded aged 70 in 1841 was his mother, it might have been a second marriage for either party.

Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: oldbiker on Thursday 19 August 10 18:04 BST (UK)
Hi Dee-Jay

The Marriage Cert for Henry Mullins and Sarah Bond 16 April 1840 shows that both parties resided in Axminster and that Sarah was of full age. Her Father was shown as William Bond occ " Potman " nb not Postman.

Henry and Sarah are shown living at Woodhouse, Axminster on the 1841 Census---he as Head---they have a little girl and are giving a home to Mary Bond age 25 and what looks like a Susan Bond age 70. Obviously Susan could be 70 to 74. She appears to be a widow.

Until recently I couldn't research Susan any further as I don't have access to the Axminster Parish Records but via IGI I have now traced the marriage of a William Bond and Susanna Batstone as previously indicated and I am sure that they are the right couple. I hadn't noticed the baptism of Robert but had William in 1804, John in 1806, Mary in  1809 and Sarah in 1814. Susanna would have been 43 or 44 when Sarah was born which is quite possible.
 Curiously The Sherbourne Mercury dated 31 Dec 1804 reports briefly that a William Bond sold Woodhouse at Axminster!

Up to now I haven't ascertained exactly who Susanna's parents were ----there are two in the frame---one Susanna Batstone bp at Seaton and Beer on 31 January 1773---parents John and Margaret and another bp 3 September 1769 at Upottery---parents Thomas and Sarah.

That's all the inf I have on the Bond/Batstone link up to now but would like to know more.

Cheers

oldbiker
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: PCAM on Wednesday 26 January 11 22:43 GMT (UK)
Hi

hope you are still following this site.

My sister is married to a Batstone (links to Devon & West country).

His family ended up in South London (Penge/Croydon).

Any poss links/contacts?

Pxx
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: oldbiker on Thursday 27 January 11 18:06 GMT (UK)
Hello PCAM

Thanks for your input. Unfortunately I haven't been able to discover anything further and in recent months have been researching other branches of my family so William Bond and Susannah Batstone are as far back as I have gone for the time being in this line. I haven't researched her children other than Sarah and Mary.

Cheers

Oldbiker
Title: Re: BATSTONE family - Chard - Help Please
Post by: daveaa on Sunday 28 August 11 17:05 BST (UK)
I am also related to Elizabeth Laura Batstone.  She is my GGgrandmother.   She married Adolphus Reiss in 1864 in Bethnal Green in London.  Their daughter Violet Julia married George Acott in Yalding in Kent in 1900 and their son George is my grandfather. 

I know that Violet will have met George when she came to Yalding to pick hops in summer as many people living in the East End of London did this.  However I do not know why Elizabeth left Somerset to come to London where she met Adolphus who had emigrated from Germany. 

From the 1861 census I can see that she was still living in Chard and was employed as a silk winder.  However by 1864 she was living in Bethnal Green and had married Adolphus.  Does anyone have any idea why she would have made this significant move to London?

Adolphus died in 1884 aged 50 after having seven children with Elizabeth.  Elizabeth lived until 1902 when she died aged 64 in the St Pancreas workhouse. 

I would love to hear which child of Elizabeth's you are descended from?