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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Pembrokeshire => Topic started by: K Rees on Tuesday 25 November 08 09:22 GMT (UK)
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Seeking to address a missing line to the David Rees of Haverfordwest (1758-1837) tree.
His daughter, Sarah Rees married Rev. James Hughes Thomas 13/7/1830 Haverfordwest, at St. Thomas, Haverfordwest.
Rev. Hughes has been linked with: St. Thomas, Molleston Baptist; Milford (North Road) Church; and Byron Street Baptist, Liverpool.
Possible children: James Thomas (1831-1831, Narbeth); Manning Thomas (1832-1833, Narbeth); Mary Lee Thomas (1833, Narbeth; and David Thomas (1834, Narbeth).
Rev. James Hughes Thomas died1861, Milford Haven; buried Molleston Baptist Church, 1861.
Sarah died 1877
Any helpers?
Keith Rees
Australia
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Hi Keith,
I live quite close to Milford Haven, my In-Laws were married in the Baptist Chapel on North Road.
Let me know what you need and I'll give it a go :)
Claire xxxx
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Thank you Mad Moo for your reply.
Rev. James Hughes Thomas married Sarah Rees of Derby/Green Hill farms of Haverfordwest. Her dad David Rees, also ran the Castle Inn (early 1800's). The Rev was based at North Road Milford for a period (c1839), as well as Liverpool and Molleston Baptist Church, where he was buried. Known children were: James Thomas (1831-1831); Manning Thomas (1832-1833); Mary Lee (1833 - ?); and David Thomas (1834- ?). We have nothing of this family. The Manning and Lee are Rees names.
Will accept any assistance possible. With the assistance of people like yourself, Welshlady, Osprey and this RootsChat site, its likes like we have found relatives for Sarah's younger brother George Manning Rees of Pembroke, Dale, Haverfordwest and Fishguard.
Sarah is from a second marriage (I believe), Anne Self.
Keith Rees - Aus
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Hi Mad Moooooo,
I couldnt help but notice how friendly and helpful you are in helping people with their family history, its really great to see. I am living in Australia and i would like to know if there is anyway that you may be going to Llanwnda cemetery again, and if so, would it be ok for you to see a burial for me. I am hoping that there may be a photo option or some information about my Great, Great Grandfather who was buried there?
Name: John Miles
Date of burial: 27 Apr 1942
I hope that i hear from you soon,
Sandra :)
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Hi Sandra and Mad Moo.
I noticed you reply Sandra for Rev. James Hughes Thomas.
Does John Miles have a connection with the Rev. Thomas? I have found that a David Thomas b. 1834 will have descendants, who descend from Rev. Thomas and second marriage to Sarah Rees. My next investigation.
I have also recently purchased two books: "Frank Harris" by Philippa Pullar and "Oscar Wilde" by Frank Harris. The author Frank Harris is really James Thomas Harris, the grand child of the Rev. James Hughes Thomas and a first wife with a Martha......
Keith Rees Aus
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Hi Keith,
No i dont think that there is a connection.
Dear Mad Moooooooo,
I am not sure why, but i cannot reply to your personal messages that you have sent me, so i have to reply via this post? sorry for the inconvenience. I received your message to say that you will look into this for me on Thursday, and I really appreciate your help. Perhaps you could email me on my personal email: (*) so that i will be able to reply to you.
thank you :)
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To RootsChat all contributors/ helpers:
I posted a help for the Rev. James Hughes Thomas in Lancashire, and a helper was able to supply that the Reverend was living in Beau Street, Everton with Sarah and some of his chn from the first marriage and children with Sarah Rees.
There is an issue with the child called Manning Thomas age 6 (1841 Census) as I believe that Manning Thomas was born 11/6/1832 Narberth and died 6/6/1833 Redstone, Moleston. However, a David Thomas was born 17/9/1834 Narbeth. If this child had a second name called Manning, and was called Manning instead of David, then that may match.
I will research the 1851 Census tomorrow, to see if I can find their location in Wales. This may clear up that child as he may be still a scholar at home.
Once again, thank you to ALL RootsChat contributors, and your willingness to assist.
Keith Aus
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To Mad Moooooo
May I now take you up on your offer of living so close to the North Road Baptist Church in Milford Haven and being of possible assistance.
I am now able to confirm that the Rev. James Hughes Thomas was the minister of this church in 1851, until his death 21 Dec 1861, and that he and his wife Sarah (nee Rees) lived at 14 Robert St. Milford in 1861.
A lady connected with the Baptist Church called Mrs. Grace Morris of 70 Mable Hall Road may be able to help me, but I would need an email address in order to forward what I have on this past Baptist Minister. Are you still able to call or contact her and pass my email address:
Keith Rees Aus
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:) Hi Keith,
No probs mate, will pop and see her for you and pass on your info, hopefully she will be online.
If not I will act as the go-between.
Claire xxx
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Thank you Claire.
Best of luck.
Her name was passed onto me by the Baptist Union of Wales.
Regards
Keith Aus
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To those readers who have helped with this family:
I have located the Rev. James Hughes Thomas' wife, Sarah Ann Thomas, nee Rees, in 1878. She has died at 9 Queen Street, St. John Cardiff, at the home of her step-son William Hughes Thomas, a draper. The certificate names the informant as W.A.Burton, grandson.
In continuing my research I would now say that this person is William Alfred Burton, technically her step-grandson, descending from Eliza Couzens Thomas and a Scottish baptist minister William Burton. Eliza would have been only 3 years old when Sarah Ann Rees married the Rev. James Hughes Thomas.
Keith Rees Aus
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To all,
I posted the following to Keith by email, but just in case others have an interest, the following is available at the Record Office ;
200 year celebration of Molleston Baptist Chapel includes reference to Rev'd James Hugh Thomas reference nbr HDX/1708/1. The celebration took place 1931-2.
Rev'd James Hugh Thomas formerly of Narberth now of Milford conveyance of land adjoing Bethesda Chapel Haverfordwest in 1855. Reference nbr D/RKL/1508
An email to the Record Office will illicit cost of copy for those interested.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
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follow up on Rev. James Hughes Thomas
Seeking marriage details of a James Thomas of Redstone to Mrs. Bowen of Cwmsaison about 16 Nov 1811 at Llandewwi Velfrey. She was the widow of Thomas Bowen, surgeon.
I found this reference in The Carmarthen Journal.
Martha Thomas, nee Couzins, was the wife of Rev. James Hughes Thomas, and she lived at Redstone when she passed away. She was buried 27 Dec 1829 at the Molestone Dissenting Ground by her husband the Rev. James Hughes Thomas.
Maybe the above James Thomas was his father.