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Title: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: lisduggan on Saturday 13 December 08 19:43 GMT (UK)
 not sure where to start   I am trying to  find a marriage cert for a michael kiely  who married a alice /ann kirby  about 1840  or later  they may have been
married outside  of waterford as there is no record here   I would be grateful for any help
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 13 December 08 20:17 GMT (UK)
Civil registration of Catholic marriages in Ireland started in 1864 (from 1845 for other marriages) and before these dates there will be no marriage certificates. For earlier dates you need to search for church records, if they exist. It's quite possible that the marriage you are looking for did take place in Waterford but that there is no survicing record of it.
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: lisduggan on Sunday 14 December 08 10:17 GMT (UK)
I have been to the churches in waterford but had no luck  if they came from Co waterford  I was thinking more on the Dungarvan ...
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 14 December 08 10:36 GMT (UK)
Do all the churches you checked have marriage records going back to 1840?
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: lisduggan on Sunday 14 December 08 10:59 GMT (UK)
  my grandmother parents marriage cert was found in St johns    they were married in 1866  that how far i got ...
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 14 December 08 11:13 GMT (UK)
Do all the churches you checked have marriage records going back to 1840?

If you've checked all the appropriate church records in Waterford and still not found the marriage you need to know whether or not all those churches have records going back to 1840s. If not, it's still possible that the marriage did take place in Waterford but no record of it remains.
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: lisduggan on Sunday 14 December 08 17:01 GMT (UK)
I will check for more information  from the other churches to see how far there records  go back  I know that two of michael  children were bapthise  in Ballybricken 1847/1849 but there is no record of there other son james  he the one i am trying to find  he was married in 1866 in waterford that I do know thank you for all your help..
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: Patrick Kiely on Wednesday 25 November 20 12:05 GMT (UK)
Michael Kiely and Alice Kirby were married in Glenmore (st Jame's ) in 1833
Michael's residence at the time was stated to be Ballanguile ( gaulstown) Glenmore.
A daughter, Anastasia was baptised in Glenmore church in 1837.
A daughter, Ellen was baptised in Ballybricken church Waterford in 1840.
A son, James (jacobus) was baptised in Ballybricken church in 1844.
A son John was baptised in ballybricken church in 1847.
A daughter Johanna ? was baptised in Ballybricken in 1849. ( this record is indistinct and could possibly be another John ? ) Church record is written in Latin and some entries are difficult to decipher. EG  Johannes / Johannis /Johannaes etc. ??) Ballybricken priest looked at entry in ledger and was also unable to clarify.... Pat Kiely.
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 November 20 12:14 GMT (UK)
Lisduggan hasn't logged in to Rootschat since 2013 but hopefully will still get notification of your reply with the information she was looking for in 2008.
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 25 January 21 08:26 GMT (UK)
Lisduggan hasn't logged in to Rootschat since 2013 but hopefully will still get notification of your reply with the information she was looking for in 2008.

"She"?

Lisduggan is a suburb of Waterford. Therefore I would not assume that the username Lisduggan is meant to indicate Lis Duggan. Might be, but may also be the location.
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: Patrick Kiely on Monday 25 January 21 10:00 GMT (UK)
Yes..I believe " Lisduggan" to be a user name or nom-de-plume.
Lisduggan is a village in Co.Waterford, and also an area of Waterford City.
Title: Re: Look up marriage cert 1840?
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 25 January 21 10:13 GMT (UK)

Lisduggan is a village in Co.Waterford, and also an area of Waterford City.


Also three townlands in Co Waterford.
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/middlethird/kilburne/tramore/lisduggan/
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/middlethird/trinity-without/lisduggan-big/
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/middlethird/trinity-without/slievekeale/lisduggan-little/


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