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Am trying to locate the burial place of Emma: nee Saunders. She married Thomas Heath, then Paiki and Tom Turner. She lived up Waimate/Morven/Timaru way and died about 1930. There is a lady buried at Timaru who died in 1930 but this is not her. Can anyone help.
Cheers
Margaret
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Hello Margaret,
Have not found a death or burial but wondered if you had these.
Emma Saunders m 1871 to Thomas Heath Folio 1697
Emma S Heath m 1874 to Thomas Taylor Folio 2133 (this probably not yours)
Emma Pyke m 1903 to Thomas Turner Folio 2883
These references from the NZSOG CDRom
I wonder if Paiki and Pyke are the same name - depending on whether you are speaking Maori or English?
But can not find a Heath marrying a Pyke/Paiki
Jean
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Thanks Jean
That gives me something to think about -- will let you know how I get on. Merry Christmas
Cheers Margaret
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Hi Margaret :)
[Not the Emma SAUNDERS buried at Timaru] ... but is the Tom TURNER buried there, the last husband of Emma ?
Lu
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Hi Lu
I'm not sure - I haven't investigated that yet. I should say that Emma was a Maori lady born in Hampden and may have returned there upon her death - I'm not sure.
Thanks Margaret
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Emma Saunder Loder - may be buried in the Waihao Maori Cemetery or in Timaru - I have heard both localities as her burial place. I think it is highly likely that she is however buried at Waihao.
Her first marriage was to Tom Heath, second to Hemi Paiki and third to Thomas Turner.
She did NOT go to Hampden on her death and she was half Maori - her father was James Saunders Loder known as Jimmy the Needle
Yes she could have been known as Emma Pyke and she was known by other names as well, Ema and Hema amongst others I believe
I may have been standing within yards of her grave this very day depending on where she is buried...if she is buried where I was then there is no headstone but there are no headstones for most buried there.
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Hi
Since posting this request I have obtained Emma's death certificate - she is buried in the Waihoa Cemetery. Can I ask who you are? Are you related to Emma?
Cheers Margaret
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Yes I am related to her and I was standing in Waihao cemetery yesterday...and last weekend and the weekend before! Her photo is on the wall beside me even now as I type.
I have not got the time to list all details about her or more specifically JSL and only joined this forum to answer any specific questions that people may ask and strongly suspect that you will have more knowledge of her than I do if you live in Waimate district.
If you are related to her then there is a thread on JSL on this site as well.
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Hi
I don't live in Waimate - I'm a Southlander, however I have seen the photo's at the Marae. My grandmother is standing beside Emma. Can I ask who you are. I am willing to share the information I have if you are interested.
Cheers Margaret
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I am a descendant of Ripeka Korako, Irehapeti Matui, Hemi Hape, Te Kihi Peneameni, Emma Saunders and Hemi Paiki et al. Now that puts me as a descendant of her marriage to Hemi Paiki...I have been staying at the Marae the last three weekends.
Now I am not certain of the photo to which you refer but I do have a photo of her well dressed standing beside another lady who is likewise well dressed but do not know who that person is. The photo on my wall is one of Emma and Tommy Edwards from Bluff and Joe Heath Jr so more of interest to my Heath cousins.
Perhaps you came up to the Mo Tatou hand over when the taonga came from Invercargill - if so you would have seen me as I was there. I also ended up having to supply twelve photos representing Waihao at twenty four hours notice for the exhibition in Dunedin and attended the closing.
My computer is new so I havent a clue how to get photos into it, edit them nor send them on so cannot get any on to share atm - I also cannot download information without it getting well and truly lost in the ether
Cheers
Graeme
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Hi Graeme
I know the photo's you speak of. My grandmother was Margaret Sarah Heath - daughter of Emma and Thomas Heath. My husband and I are travelling around New Zealand - we are at the top of the North Island at the moment. Coverage for the internet is limited hence the delay in replying to your post. Most of my information is in storage in Invercargill, however I do have some on the computer. Can you enlighten me as to how the Benson comes into the family. I understand Paiki was changed at times to Pike or Pyke. Is this your understanding too. I will endeavour to send my private e-mail address. Cheers Margaret W
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Hi Margaret
I just phoned my father and he didnt know Margaret Sarah Heath so you have him puzzled but she will be a sister of dads Uncle Joe. There are serious divisions amongst some family member but of this you may not be aware but suffice to say I refuse to take sides!
I will have to look to see what the Benson tie up is. I do know my grandmother said that the Peneamines were first cousins but I will have information here ot tie it all up.
I noted Pyke Road down toward Glenavy and have wondered if it was tied in with the Paikis. Hemi Paiki was called by the Europeans James Pyke I think as someone told me that was the name on the title of the land between our house and the Heath home which was the next one across the paddock and Hemi Paiki did own two fifty acres blocks, one on each side of the house. In between those two paddocks was a 14 acre one and that now belongs to my cousin.
Cheers
Graeme T