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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Tephra on Tuesday 03 February 09 09:07 GMT (UK)
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Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and It's Dee's turn....she's been waiting a while for this to come up so hope you can help her.
Apology here.........I thought it was Dee's second go round and I've just found out it's her third..........so hurry up and get stuck in............ :D :D
Good Luck and Good Hunting.
Barbara
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I’m stuck on my STEELES and GARROD ancestry.
Part of the problem is sorting through the varied spelling of the names. So far I have found STEELES-STEELS-STEELE-STEEL-STEELER-STYLES-STILES-STOOLES and a couple of unbelievable mistranscriptions, and GARROD-GARWOOD-GARROOD-GARRAD-GARRARD etc.
First the STEELES line……
My STEELES family I have traced back to my great great great grandfather Edward STEELES, sometimes called Edmund, who married Jane GARROD in Marham, Norfolk on 8th June 1801. I have seen the parish record for this marriage. The spelling of his name in that record was STYLES.
This couple went on to have 10 children that I know of, and I have the details of what happened to most of these children, and followed those that married down through the censuses.
Recently , thanks to a website posted by a Rootschatter, I found probate on a will of a Thomas STEELES of Marham, who left his estate to be shared between his 6 nephews and nieces, the offspring of Edward STEELES, so I know Edward had at least one brother. I have no idea if the family had its origins in Marham, or moved there from somewhere else. Most of the men were wheelwrights, blacksmiths or carpenters.
I’d dearly love to be able to find Edward’s parents and any other information about his ancestry.
Now to the GARROD family……and this line is largely unknown to me.
Jane Garrod, while marrying in Marham, was born in Gooderstone, Norfolk. Unfortunately the marriage record did not mention her father’s name. From Census records, I know that she was born around 1780. Both the census records and her marriage record say she was born in Gooderstone.
There are a number of mentions of GARRODS/GARWOODS in the Censuses in Goooderstone, but my problem is forming them into a family and finding where Jane links into it.
There is little on the IGI for Gooderstone before 1800.
This is probably the family where I would appreciate any titbits of information that folks can scavenge. So any help is welcome.
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;D Morning.
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Morning Lesanne, you got here before Toni......... ;D ;D ;D
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Morning Lesanne.
I'm here for a while...... :D :D
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Hiya Tephra,
It's very busy here !! Every now and then I get the 'Send us a postcard screen'.
Norfolk ....hmmm very snowy at the mo.... Brrrrr.
Morning Dee :D
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:D Hi Dee
Could you post their childrens names....
Having a quick look on IGI brings poss parents.
Jacob, Francis, John... +Winifred, Susanna,Mary...
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Edward Steeles and Jane Garrod had
Garwood Steeles 1801
Edward Steeles 1802
Thomas Steeles 1804
Francis Steeles 1807
William Steeles 1808
Mary Steeles 1811
William Steeles 1812
Henry Steeles 1813
Martha Steeles 1819
Ann Steeles 1823
Ann, Martha, William, Henry and Mary all died as infants or young children.
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There were also these three legible Steeles records in the Marham Parish Records Transcripts.....
16 Jul 1782 Thomas STYLES, single, married Mary SMITH, spinster, of the Parish of Pentney by banns.
9 Sept 1785 Francis STYLES, age 61, buried.
29 Dec 1808 Thomas STEELES, widower, married Mary MAN, single, by banns. Curate George ????? officiated.
Witnesses: Sarah Young
John Adams
The transcripts were extremely difficult to read. Many pages were in fact unreadable. The book had been wet and many pages damaged.
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Hmmm...
We could do with Thomas and Mary Smith having an Edward and Thomas...
hey... that would be TOO easy.
Do you think that the Thomas remarried... a death for Mary Steeles nee Smith.... :-\
Francis + Winifred only recorded as having an Edward
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Oh ~ and Garwood.... Is that Garrod ??? Looks possible.
Pentney map and village link.
http://website.lineone.net/~rasheridan/page3.html
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I don't know if Thomas had any children but I reckon he did marry twice.
On FreeReg there is the death of a Thomas Steeles in 1831 aged 77. In 1824 there is the death of a Mary Steeles aged 48....perhaps Mary Man?
But I've seen no sign of a death for Mary Smith.
Garrod and Garwood seem to have been swapped around at times.
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I have Garwood Steeles marrying Ann Fox 1823 Marham and birth of son? 1831 But all submitted.
Is there a reg district common to them.
There is another Anne Fox marrying 1790 Samuel SMITH Great Ellingham. But again Sub entry... Grrrrr
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Garrod/Garwood Steeles who married Ann Fox is Edward and Jane's son.
After 1837 births, deaths and marriages for Marham were in the district of Downham.
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Everything so slow today........ after the WDYTYA prog last night........ been playing in NA.
PD 138
Covering dates 1702-1996
Held by Norfolk Record Office
Extent 32 files
Source of acquisition Records received by the Norfolk Record Office on 7 November 1973, numbered PD 138/1-28; on 9 May 1985, numbered PD 138/6 (Marriage licences 1854-1945, except 1905 and PD 138/29-31) and on 1 November 1999, numbered PD 138/32 (Acc 1999/145) GK/IM)
Copies information Most parish registers are available on microform.
Creators Church of England, Gooderstone Parish, Norfolk
Is there anyone on the Norfolk board that could do/has done a lookup...... :-\
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http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/surnames.php?letter=S
Norfolk Transcriptions... :D
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http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/surnames.php?doc_type=200&surname=STYLES
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Morning Lesanne. :D
Thanks for the websites......I shall have a browse as soon as I've made myself an early morning cuppa.
I guess I could post a request on the Norfolk board to see if anyone has access to Gooderstone PRs........
Dee
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Morning Dee,
There seems to be lots of Records on that site. Let me know if you get anything useful...
Les
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A quick look doesn't reveal anything that jumps out, but I'll have a much longer browse during the morning. :-\
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Did you change the initial. ???
there's over 300+ Garrod thru to Garwood's then all the Steel - Styles......
Have fun ... Les
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Oooooooooooops......it's just been brought to my attention that it's Dee's THIRD go round Scavenger Hunt.....so I've changed the title.
Sorry guys........ :-\ :-\ :-\
Barbara
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Did you change the initial. ???
there's over 300+ Garrod thru to Garwood's then all the Steel - Styles......
Have fun ... Les
I've been through and checked everything that looks like a possible variation......but Gooderstone and Marham just don't seem to appear....... :-\
I did find out that Gooderstone was the District of Swaffam. :D :D
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:D Morning Dee and Tephra...
Nothing on there ???
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Oh, still every tiddler counts.......... ;D
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Morning Lesanne :D
Dee that Gooderstone and Swaffam sounds like something out of Harry Potter!! ;D ;D
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I do know that Swaffam, Downham and Kings Lynn form a rough triangle on the map!
I have seen some of the variations for Steeles listed for Kings Lynn on Free Reg but I don't seem to be able to find a connection at this stage.
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;D ;D Have you ever found any connection to the Sandringham Estate........ 8)
The Royal Archivist, I believe is at Windsor and they might have kept records ;)
As you mentioned some were spoilt.
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No connection with Sandringham Estate that I know of.......though some of the Steeles became coach builders........
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did i miss this one?
is a ****** that the areas you need are not widely covered on IGI and i have no access to discs for that area ::)
hmmm thinking how i can help a bit more but it may help going sideways
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Hi Toni! :D
Sideways? I just don't really know where to go.....
I might have to save up and try to buy the microfiche if available of Gooderstone PRs.....then there's the problem of accessing a microfiche reader. :-\
Got a feeling I've come up with a hunt that's just too difficult......sorry about that......
Dee
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sometimes the occupation can give clues, so a balcksmith did you say would appear in the trade directories and is (usually) a family tradition it be passed to the next generation as with wheelwrights and carpenters
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have not fully looked at these links but they might help you :~
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lostfound/AD.htm
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sheilawb/kellys_1908_downham.htm
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05gs/
http://www.archive.org/stream/englishgoodwinfa01star/englishgoodwinfa01star_djvu.txt
http://www.archive.org/stream/sportingreminisc00aeso/sportingreminisc00aeso_djvu.txt
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http://www.foxearth.org.uk/1781NorfolkChronicle.html
also :~
the post office directory of cambridge, norfolk and suffolk - Page 349
1875
Marham house COMMERCIAL. Able John, butcher Binnington Richard, ... Steeles Ann
(Mrs.), wheelwright Steeles William, wheelwright Winearls Robert ...
(this was Digitized Oct 10, 2007 at Oxford Uni so you should be able to view it somehow)
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Some work for me to do there tomorrow, thanks Toni.......
I have collected some names and information from directories.
Tonight I've gone back to my files and found that these Garrods are listed on FreeReg for Marham......
Mary Garrod married Robert Britton 5th Jan 1798
Jane Garrod married Edmund Styles 8th June 1801
Phebe Garrod aged 62 buried 12th Jan 1789
Henry Garrod aged 53 buried 21st Feb 1799
James Garrod aged 56 buried 7th March 1799.
Wonder if either Henry or James was the father of Jane Garrod?
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did i miss this one?
Better late than never Toni ;D ;D
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theres garrods in maningtree ,lawford and mistley all near the essex suffolk border for about 100 years dont no if this is any good.
regards neil
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I forgot to put this up last night......so here it is now.
The next Scavenger Hunt.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,359870.0.html
As usual, this Hunt will remain open for any further information which may come in .
Barbara
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Did those links help Dee?
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Sorry Toni....forgot to post that there were absolutely none that I could link to mine....... :-\
But I've saved the links because you just never know........
Dee :D