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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: mcghee67 on Sunday 15 February 09 13:14 GMT (UK)
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Hi Everyone,
I am looking to find imformation on Christopher Monaghan of Inver Parish Mount Charles, Donegal. He married Mary Ward daughter of William Ward and Bridget Gallacher, Christophers parents were Christopher Monaghan and Mary Conaghan. Christopher and Mary Monaghan had the following children William, Mary, Bridget, Patrick, James and John. Any imformation would be much appreciated. I have Christopher and Mary on the Scottish census in 1901 living alongside their daughter Mary and her husband Robert Perkins. Bridget remained in inver parish and married Bernard Molloy in 1896, I am trying to determine when they left Ireland and where exactly they lived and worked, if anybody can help me in anyway I would be very greatful
Kind regards Jane
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found these birth, you may already have this info.
WILLIAM 27-5-1867. MARIA 16-7-1869. BIDDY 13-5-1873. CHRISTOPHER 2-9-1875. PATRICK 5-12-1878. ALL BORN MOUNTCHARLES,DONEGAL.
PARENTS. CHRISTOPHER MONAGHAN & MARIA WARD.
regards mary.
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Thanks Mary it was kind of you to do the lookup
Kind regards Jane
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My grand parents are Monaghan from Frosses (inver Parish) my grand father was master monaghan he was head master of frosses school.
he married rose gallagher and they had 12 kids my dad being one of them he was Joseph Monaghan. born around 1921
we still have our farm there...
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply, my ggrandmother and her sister worked in a big estate house in cloverhill also know as Drumbeg, I think it could have either been Drumbeg House or Hall Demense do you know of any of them
Kind regards Jane
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drumbeg sounds familiar
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Hi Jane
Drumbeg House is, I'm fairly sure, a large house at Lower Cranny, Inver. It is still there, though empty. I believe that it was a hotel for a while and there have been planning applications for redevelopment - so get down there before it's demolished. I have a friend who's family used to own it I think but don't know if there are any records - I'll ask.
Hall Demesne is also an estate near Mountcharles - I think the house is still there and can be seen from the coast road at Mountcharles.
Charlie
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Hi Charlie,
Thanks for the reply I am sure it would have been Drumbeg House they worked in as they stayed in Drumbeg also known as cloverhill, Does your friend have any pictures of it i would dearly love one for my webpage. I see it was used as a hotel but was recently sold any imfo on it would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards Jane
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Hi Moira,
Its Jane here have you had much luck on your family research, I see you are researching 3 surnames the same as mine, Monaghan, Gallagher and Ward
regards Jane
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Hi Moira,
I live just outside Glasgow in a village called Chapelhall,
Christopher Monaghans wife was Mary Ward and her parents were William Ward and Bridget Gallagher, Christophers father was also Christopher and his wifes name was Bridget Conaghan all from inver Parish, Do u know much history of the area? My ggrandmother Bridget Monaghan and her sister Mary worked in some big house, many years ago my mother remembers talking to an old lady who knew the house they worked in and she said that you would have to be educated to work in this house, both sisters met their husbands to be while working in the house Mary Monaghan met and married the coachman Robert Perkins and they had to run away to Scotland to get married as they were of different religions, Bridget met and married Bernard Mulloy he was a sheriffs bailiff and emergency man, I think he did some work for the big house that Bridget and Mary lived in. I found an article in hansard papers about him discharging his revolver on 3 sailors who were on leave quite amusing reading
So I am trying to find the big house where they worked
Hope to hear from you soon Jane
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i now live in Toronto canada originally from glasgow.
there is and was a lot of grand estates and i don't know a lot about them.
there is another monaghan family in frosses not related to me my brother has spoken to them the homestead is close to our in gargrim.
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I don't know if Christopher had brothers and sisters but I would think he did have
Frosses is not a big place
Kind regards Jane
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you mentione a while ago you were planning a trip did you go ?
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Yes I did go and went through the main st its a very small place only 2 streets, I visited the graveyard st Marys thats were I took the pic of Patrick and Marys grave. I wish now I had asked to go through the church records
Jane
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the store in town called kelly's that kelly family has been in frosses forever.
did you by chance talk to the locals as they know the whole history.
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No I didn't and I wish I did it was very quite and there was nobody around I see theres Kellys bar as well, when I looked up the griffiths valuation I noticed that Christophers father lived in a house without a garden so I think it could have been the main st and he maybe worked in one of the Mills
Jane
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yea they were probable all in the pub thats another place to get information
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Patrick John b 28 Mar 1897 bap 31, Godparents Denis and Bridget Molloy
Patrick was a servant in a Ward household in Tullinteane, Corkermore (Bruckless), Killaghtee in 1911 - see 1911 census
Patrick John Molloy lived with Con and Mary Ann Ward and worked as a farm servant.
Mary Ellen Molloy lived with Connell and Catherine Ward they also had 2 children Patrick and Bernard James she worked as a domestic servant for them.
Their mother Bridget Molloy(Nee Monaghan) of Frosses had left them behind in 1908 to join her mother and father Christopher and Mary Monaghan(Nee Ward)
also of Frosses, to live in Scotland. They rejoined their mother in 1912. I have contacted you again as I noticed you have also got Wards in your family and I was wondering if there is any connection.
Kind regards Jane
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From Christopher Monaghans death cert, I got the following imformation, his father was also called Christopher and he was a stone mason and he was married to a Sarah Cunningham if anybody can help me find more imfo on his parents I would be delighted
Kind regards Jane :)
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My GGGGrandfather was a stonemason in 1850s in Inver Parish, Mountcharles, I wonder if he was employed by annother Monaghan family who owned a quarry in the area or if they were related. Does anybody know anything about stonemasonary and quarries in that area?
kind regards Jane
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Hi Jane
My Grandfather is Charles Joseph Monaghan his father was James Monghan who was Married Mary Rose Monaghan (Nee O'donnell) they had two son Grandfather and also Shemus(d)
We were in Frosses Last year around May till Sep 09
Are you the same person who put the rosary beads and purse on Kitty and Shemus in ST Mary grave yard Frosses
We will be back in Frosses in the end May 2010 for 3 months
Yours
Natasha Carr (Granddagher of Charles Monaghan
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Hi Charles,
No I didn't put the rosasry beads on the grave, my greatgrandmother had a brother named James and O'Donnell was the name of my grandfathers cousins who he used to visit in the area in the 1940s and 50s I have being trying to establish who he visited. Yesterday would you believe we put a wooden cross on the grave of my GGGrandparents who are buried in Mothwerwell, Scotland, We only discovered they were buried there when I started researching my family history they were named Christopher and Maria Monaghan from Frossses Inver Parish, Donegal, please get back in touch, and you are going to Frosses for 3 months how lucky you are its a lovely place.
Kind regards Jane :)
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Here is a link to my website which has a picture of one of my grandfathers O'Donnell cousins on a horse in Donegal
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/MolloysMeenavally.htm
Kind regards Jane I only know its somehere in Donegal theres no name on it.
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Regarding the rosarybeads I have been thinking my cousin Hugh might have put the rosary beads on the grave as he was in Frosses in July last year. I am intouch with Helen Meehan (writer) from Frosses.
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Yes we know Helen it would rally be nice to hear who did put the rosary beads on our relatives grave we trying to get information on the Monaghans Of Frosses from way back
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Do you know the names of your Greatgrandfather James's parents? I would be interested in anything you find and also willing to help you in anyway, I know that my 3xGrandfather namely Christopher Monaghan was a stonemason and that Margaret Monaghan donated the stone for the newly built church of The Holy Family in Ardara. Helen Meehan is sending me an article about Drumbeg also known as Cloverhill that is where my grandmothers youngest brother was born.
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James Monaghan was the youngest of my Greatgrandmothers brothers born in Cloverhill now known as Drumbeg in 1880 his Godparents were Charles Blaney and Mary Higginbottom. My greatgrandmother oftern recalled to my Dad growing up in Frosses, she was married in May 1896 in St Marys RC Church Frosses. Here is a picture of ? O'Donnell cousin to my grandfather. I just know he used to stay with his O'Donnell cousins in the 4os and 1950s, does any of this ring a bell? I had this old black and white photo coloured and restored
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Bridgets other siblings were William, Patrick, John , Christopher, Sarah Ann, and Mary mother was Mary Ward, some of them were born in Salthill.
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Hi Jane
We will try and find more information when we head to Ireland in the next Month sorry we cannot be more help I know some of my Mothers sibblings where Margaret Biddy and Cassie ODonnell will see if I can get more names before we leave thanks for sending this information as far as I know we have relatives living in America some of my own children still live in Ireland I have three sons living in Nz I have two Daughter living in Nz some of my relatives are named Maguire and a cousin named McHugh I was born in XXXX Hope some of this is help to you I am Married to
Charles Joseph Monaghan
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Hi Patricia,
I emailed my cousin Hugh regarding the rosary beads it wasn't him that left them on the Monaghan grave, hope you are all well and enjoy you're trip to Frosses, If you have time could you please look out for the grave of Christopher Monaghan in St Mary's graveyard,
He was a stonemason....
Many Thanks Jane
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I am doing research on my family the Leonards, formally Lenaghans in Donegal. I came across this post and reconized this name. There was a Christopher Monaghan renting land from Anne Lenahan in Dromore in 1857 according to the Griffiths Valuation. Check out the link. Hope it helps.
See here (http://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=Lenahan&firstname=&baronyname=&countyname=DONEGAL&unionname=&parishname=&Submit.x=47&Submit.y=11).
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Hi Natasha,
My grandmother Bridget had a brother called James born in Frosses, Inver Parish, my grandfather was always talking about his O'Donnell cousins, I wonder if the connection to the O'Donnells is James marrying Mary Rose, hope to hear from you soon, finding it very hard to get imformation on my Monaghan Family,
Kind regards Jane ???
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I am doing research on my family the Leonards, formally Lenaghans in Donegal. I came across this post and reconized this name. There was a Christopher Monaghan renting land from Anne Lenahan in Dromore in 1857 according to the Griffiths Valuation. Check out the link. Hope it helps.
See here (http://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=Lenahan&firstname=&baronyname=&countyname=DONEGAL&unionname=&parishname=&Submit.x=47&Submit.y=11).
Thanks for the connection to Dromore, his first couple of children were born there
Thanks Rory
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My father Jimmy monaghan was born in tullyhumber frosses he has passed away I am know moving back and building a house my name is charles monaghan
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Hi Charles,
I was back in Frosses in April, it is such a lovely peacefull place any you are truely lucky to able to move back, maybe when you are settled you could ask around about my Monaghans you never know we maybe related, I know my grandfather used to visit O'Donnell cousins in the area,
Kind regards Jane :)
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I have an Edward Leonard and his wife Catherine Hanley who came over to Scotland about 1848 - 50. They were from Co Donegal but as yet have no idea which area. On Edward's Scottish death certificate from 1873 he was aged 63 and his parents were given as James Leonard, flour miller and Agnes Kelly or Kirby. I presume that James and Agnes died in Ireland.
Edward and Catherine had 5 children that I know of. James born about 1828, Peter/Patrick born about 1830, Agnes born about 1835, Margaret born about 1840 (all born Ireland) and Jane born 1851 Glasgow, Scotland.
Agnes went to "America" as a young woman, don't know if she stayed there or came back. The others all died in Scotland.
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My father Jimmy monaghan was born in tullyhumber frosses he has passed away I am know moving back and building a house my name is charles monaghan
Hi Charles,
I have now obtained my greatgrandparnets marriage cert and it names a Lizzie O'Donnell as her Bridesmaid and a Patrick Ward as the Best Man, I have found a Lizzie O'Donnell living in the BonnyGlen with her parents and sibblings, on the cert it gives Cloverhill as the Monaghans address, I was speaking for my aunt and she said the Biddy Monaghan (MY GGrandmother) worked for the Sinclars and they learned her to sew, embroider etc. her husband worked for the Montgomerys and I have since found out at the time Mr Montgomery was High Sheriff of Donegal, my GGrandfather was employed as The Sheriffs Bailiff for Ardara, so he must have been employed by him.
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