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Title: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Samc1966 on Friday 20 February 09 14:07 GMT (UK)
Hi All
My Holmes family come from Felstead and Dunmow, Essex.  However, there appear to be some census info missing and also i want to go back further too.  Having trouble with David Holmes 1843 and his parents William and Sarah.  Can anybody help? :)
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Barbara F on Friday 20 February 09 14:22 GMT (UK)
Hello and welcome to rootschat Sam.

One thing that you need to know is that the 1851 census for the whole of the Dunmow Registration District is missing!

Do you have the family in the 1861 census and have you traced a marriage for David's parents?

Barbara
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Nick29 on Friday 20 February 09 14:30 GMT (UK)
David Holmes married Sarah Ann Bental in Dunmow Q4 1867 Vol: 4a, Page 737

Do you have a birth certificate for David Holmes ?  This should give his mother's maiden name.  According to the IGI, there was a marriage between a William Holmes and a Sarah Archer in Great Waltham on 21 July 1812, but this is a submitted record, which is not totally reliable.

Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: wozzle on Friday 20 February 09 14:38 GMT (UK)
1861
could SKS have a look
transcribed as david hohner
RG9/1116/49/22.
i have to go offline now
if no one has posted it by the time i come back i will post it
i am pretty sure this is him.
mick
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Barbara F on Friday 20 February 09 14:40 GMT (UK)
In 1861 he is living in Felsted with his widowed mother Sarah and his siblings.  His mother aged 51 gives her PoB as Yeldham.

Will post full details if you do not have them.

Barbara

Looks like we have the same entry mick  :)
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Nick29 on Friday 20 February 09 14:48 GMT (UK)
Maybe the marriage I found was William's parents ?  :)
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Barbara F on Friday 20 February 09 14:54 GMT (UK)
Nick - I think the marriage you found is for the David born 1843.

This looks like the family in 1841

Pon Park Brook Felsted

William Holmes 37  Ag lab
Sarah  32 
Maria  9 
Harriet  7 
Solomon  5 
Caroline  3
Alfred 6
Joseph Cheek 45 Thresher

HO107 331/16 f 7

Barbara
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Barbara F on Friday 20 February 09 14:56 GMT (UK)
Sorry Nick

I see you have added to your reply!

1812 would be a bit early to fit in with the family in 1841.  Think we need a marriage about 1830 but unfortunately the IGI is not good for Essex.

Barbara
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Samc1966 on Tuesday 24 February 09 11:47 GMT (UK)
Guys
Thanks for your replies - it's been really helpful.
I will have a good old study of this shortly - thanks for clarifying that 1851 is missing for Dunmow Barbara - that explains a lot of frustrated searching!!!
Sam
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Samc1966 on Tuesday 24 February 09 12:01 GMT (UK)
Actually, there is something else you can probably help with.....

I have done all my work via family or online so far and know i need to start delving into parish records etc....

How does one go about finding out where you need to go/contact to visit?  For example - i obviously need to visit somewhere to view records for Dunmow/Felstead and am guessing it would be Chelmsford - but is there any sort of directory to find out for this and other areas?

Thanks   :)
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Barbara F on Tuesday 24 February 09 12:13 GMT (UK)
Hi

This is the link to the Essex Record Office

http://www.essexcc.gov.uk/vip8/ecc/ECCWebsite/dis/cha.jsp?channelOid=13813

For archives/record offices for other counties a good place to start is here

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/

Hope this helps.

Barbara
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Samc1966 on Tuesday 24 February 09 12:46 GMT (UK)
thanks Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Michael1941 on Friday 16 October 09 00:07 BST (UK)
William and Sarah were my Great Great Uncle and Aunt. I live in Canada but was in Felstead this year doing some family research. I may be able to help with some names and dates.
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Samc1966 on Friday 16 October 09 08:54 BST (UK)
Hi Michael

Lucky you being in Canada - whereabouts?  We went over a couple of years ago and loved it!

That's interesting that you went to Felstead.  Did you get much information from going there-  I would like to go some time and have a look around the place and also see if I can pick any more info up?

William and Sarah would be my Great, Great, Great Grandparents - their son David was my Great, Great Grandfather.  Where do you fit in?  :)
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Michael1941 on Saturday 17 October 09 02:09 BST (UK)
Hi . I live in the small hamlet of Bethany, Ontario which is near Peterborough about 75 miles northeast of Toronto. Where did you visit in Canada? I began working on my tree about 2 years ago using Ancestry UK. I see you have filed your tree on the site. I have not as I was waiting until I had filled all the blanks. I am a generation older than you. My 2nd Great Grandfather Henry Holmes 1822-1864 was Williams younger brother. Their parents are Jonathan 1773- and Mary 1779-1859 both from Felstead they had 7 children. I was born in Wales lived in London and emigrated to Canada as a young boy. I spent 5 weeks in the UK this past April. Spent a day at the Essex records office where I viewed the parish records which gave me some information but nothing from the 18th century that I could decipher. I stayed at a ca 1541 B&B next to Pond Park Brook farm , Felstead where our family resided in 1841. I will be happy to share my findings with you. You can contact me direct at my e-mail
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Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Michael1941 on Wednesday 28 October 09 00:16 GMT (UK)
Received your message. I will send you  more details via e- mail. You visited a beautiful part of the country when you were in Canada. Where do you live?
Title: Re: Holmes Family Tree - Felstead & Dunmow, Essex
Post by: Samc1966 on Wednesday 28 October 09 09:52 GMT (UK)
Worcester - appx 25 miles from Birmingham.

Speak more on email then.

Sam