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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lincolnshire Lookup Requests => Lincolnshire => England => Lincolnshire Completed Look up Requests => Topic started by: Eilleen on Friday 20 February 09 22:11 GMT (UK)
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Hi :)
I know you all thought I had gone very quiet about my obsession with Lincoln High street,
BUT....... could someone see who was at 174, High st, in any of the census
It's next to the pub ;D ;D,
in fact on the right hand side of the pub, if you were going up the High street, ( South of the railway line's)
you will not believe this , I cannot think what the pub is called :-[ :-[
Eilleen.
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Hi Eileen
The pub was the Treaty of Commerce. I have a 1904 Kellys and the occupant of 174 is Tom Holland, Chemist.
Lynne
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Lynne. Thankyou so much for that, :)
Eilleen.
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I've a feeling I only ever went in the Treaty once - possibly in school uniform. I had needed to pop to the High St at lunchtime, perhaps for passport photo, and I had a swift half in the Treaty - another pub to cross off my list. Seventeen days after my 18th birthday, I'd done the lot. I think my mate Malcolm completed the set the previous week.
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I thought the name Treaty of Commerce rang a bell. :)
Whilst trawling through the Historical Directories web site today I found in the 1868 Lincolnshire Post Office Directory that my Great x3 uncle, Willit Ball, was listed as the publican of the Treaty of Commerce 175 High Street Lincoln. He later went on to keep a Hotel in Hull
Also in 1868 his brother Philip was a Beer House Keeper in Union Road and until 2 years previously his mother had kept the Strugglers Arms/Inn.
Great boozers by the looks of it the Balls. ::)
Alan
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My granddad was a regular at the Royal Oak, which I believe was a few doors down from the Treaty. Am I right in thinking that the Roadcar Bus Station was originally in a small street off the High Street, somewhere in the same area? My husband thinks it's my imagination, but I am sure I remember it.
Lynne
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Yes you're right about the Roadcar - buses entered from the Brayford end. I think you can see the road here (one way of course) http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=53.226291&lon=-0.543454&z=19.2&r=0&src=msa
The Royal Oak - I'm fairly sure it became the Lion in the 1960s (perhaps re-opening after an earlier fire - perhaps that's my imagination :) )
EDIT: Kelly's Directory 1946
High St
168 Harrison (Photographer)
168a Royal Oak PH
169 Lincolnshire Road Car Co, omnibus station
169 Lion Hotel
170 Ostick (Tobacconist)
167-169 High Street is now Peacocks. Is that the place that used to be Wilkinsons? And before that, Lincoln's first supermarket Tesco? It can be clearly seen on the aerial photo.
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Thanks for that - I thought I was right ;D
I wonder how many Lincoln people have got a family photograph in their collection taken by Harrisons. I certainly have.
Peacocks was Wilkinsons, but I don't think it was Tesco. I am fairly sure they were in the large building immediately south of the railway crossing which is now split into two shops.
Lynne
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Hi Eilleen
According to the 1861 Post Office Trade Directory it was my family John Hastings who had a Tailors business at 174 - the census for 1861 says he was living at 170 High Street which you very kindly took me a photo of ;D I wonder if the Trade directory was right?
Rosie
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I wonder how many Lincoln people have got a family photograph in their collection taken by Harrisons. I certainly have.
Peacocks was Wilkinsons, but I don't think it was Tesco. I am fairly sure they were in the large building immediately south of the railway crossing which is now split into two shops.
Perhaps it was Harrison's that I was going to (mentioned in my earlier post). It's funny, I can't remember Tesco (but I did stop living full time in Lincoln in 1965).
The 1900 directory has the same numbers for Harrison, the Lion and the Royal Oak as in 1946. 170 was a tailor's (Penney).
The 1857 directory at www.historicaldirectories.org has the Royal Oak at 168 and Lion at 170. I guess the census may not have been correct. John HASTINGS was at 39 Silver St in 1857.
I can't fully work things out - 172 was a pawnbroker's in 1861 ... but also in 1900 - so did anything change? The Royal Oak and Lion were given as being 166 and 167 in 1861 (in St Mark's parish). As the Lion was the last thing in St Marks and HASTINGS the first one in St Mary le Wigford, I think it only the numbering that was unusual, the positions can still be worked out.
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Rosie. and all
Rosie , I remember :)
I just started this thread, to nail down , what businesses, had been at what is now 174, High street.
such a nuisance when they change the numbers , :)
but thought that seening it is next door to the pub, it might be easier to trace :D
Eilleen.
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Eilleen
It definately should be easier to trace next to the pub especially with the likes of GeoffE's local knowledge ;D
GeoffE, The census was right as I have a birth certificate for 1862 which states 170 High Street, I suppose he could have traded at 174 and lived at 170 but not very likely as times were hard.
Rosie