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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: minnie1703 on Saturday 21 February 09 20:22 GMT (UK)
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hi can anyone help me find family of
Joseph Daniel Griffiths
Birth: abt 1889
Wales, United Kingdom
his mothers name was gwendoline griffiths.
his Marriage to Rosa Rabens
St.Pauls Church, Landore, Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Description: Rosas surname was Robbins at the time of marriage
27may 1918
i woulkd like to know of more his mother and fathers side. he had 3 kids with rosa
cyril joseph, gwynneth and rosalie
can anyone help
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Hi Minnie
Not having much luck in the censuses so far but this looks like his birth registration
Births Sep 1889 Griffiths Joseph Daniel Swansea 11a 807
Barbara
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Have you got his birth cert? If not, this one is a possibility: Sep 1889 Griffiths Joseph Daniel Swansea 11a 807
Snap Barbara!
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i dont have his birth cert but i have his marriage cert
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im sorry he married rosa robbins rabens was her maiden name with her first marriage to samuel robbins
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So what was his dad's name and occupation on the marriage certificate?
Barbara
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his mother was on the marriage certificate as Gwendoline Griffiths , there was also no occupation
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Minnie
That is very odd! Was his mother's name in the "Name of father"column?
Barbara
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yes it did but underneath in brackets it said (mothers name)
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As far as I can work out, on freebmd there are no Griffiths/Gwendoline marriages, nor are there any Gwendoline Griffiths births between 1841 and 1873.
Will try name variants now.
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Well this is a bit of a long shot.
The marriage cert suggests he is illegitimate.
In 1891 there is a household with a Joseph Lewis and wife Gwenllian plus son Joseph D lewis aged 1.
There is this marriage
Sep 1890
Anthony John Swansea 11a 1271
Griffiths Gwenllian Swansea 11a 1271
LEWIS Joseph Swansea 11a 1271
Richards William Henry Swansea 11a 1271
Thomas Mary Hannah Swansea 11a 1271
So, maybe Joseph was registered under mother's maiden name and then mum married?
Barbara
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Plenty of Gwens, Gwenllians and Gwennys, but the first Gwendoline Griffiths is born in 1875.
Think that we need Joseph's birth certificate!
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Good idea Barbara,
There are no Joseph D Lewis' born in Swansea between 1888 and 1891. There are 3 just Josephs and 3 Joseph H (Henry, Hughes and Harold)
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In 1901 the same family group names Joseph as Joseph Daniel Lewis aged 12 b Swansea.
I think this may be the right Joseph Daniel but the birth certificate is really needed in this case.
Barbara
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This is the 1891 census
Llangyfelach
Joseph Lewis 26 Coalminer
Gwenllian Lewis 24
Joseph D Lewis 1
All born Llangyfelach
Ref is RG12 4470 f 142
Barbara
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1901 Census
Penderry
Joseph Lewis 35 Colliery roadman underground
Gwenllian Lewis 33
Joseph Daniel Lewis 12
William Lewis 10
Joshua Lewis 8
Benjamin Lewis 4
All born Swansea
Ref is RG13 5068 f 30
Barbara