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does anyone remember or know of a place called brockendene farm, woburn park, addlestone,
i believe it may of been a mobilehome/caravan site,
what i would like to know is was it a permanent site or a travellars site,
regards
thewelshcockney
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Hi
Can@t find it named on Surrey Street atlas for 1988 (could be under the M25!)
Have you tried the Surrey History centre at Woking http://www.surreycc.gov.uk/surreyhistoryservice
email shs {--at--} surreycc.gov.uk
Rosie
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Please replace {--at--} with @
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hi Rosie
thanks for looking
i had a look on google earth and found a site along woburn hill, still in use today
it seems to back on to woburn park but it has a diffrent name,
so maybe it had a name change,
regards
thewelshcockney
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Hi
What name is it now?
I know there is a local authority travellers site at Littleton Lane in Shepperton (near Chertsey Bridge) which isn't that far away but not sure what is on the vast area of undeveloped land between there and Woburn Hill. It's a long time since I visited that part of Addlestone, ;D
Rosie
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Hi
Try this, I found it by googling brAckendene addlestone
http://ww2.runnymede.gov.uk/leisure/activities/rambles/2003/Walk_1.pdf
Perhaps its the overwintering quarters of Gerry Cottles circus you can see on Google earth ???
Rosie
I think its worth emailing Surrey history centre, I hear they are very helpful
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hi Rosie
google earth doesn't give a name for the site, but i notice on your link the map shows a caravan park in the same place called meadowland with the entrance in weybridge road, i think this is the site I'm looking for so i think i Will email the surrey history centre for more info,
regards
thewelshcockney
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Hi
Meadowlands is a mobile home site with properties for sale, there are a few in this area
http://www.parkhome-living.co.uk/pages/directory/residentialparks/330/view/
http://haulfryn.info/R/surrey/meadowlands/index.htm
Rosie
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Hope this isn't too late to be of any use.
I think you are looking for Brackendene Caravan Site which was on part of the site of what is now a public open space, also known as Brackendene. I've been trying to piece together the history of this small area and information is very sparce! The caravan site towards Weybridge is a different site.
You've probably found by now that the Surrey History Centre doesn't have any relevant records, but it is worth contacting Chertsey Museum who do have some record cards for the site from the 1960s. I'm planning to have a look at these in the next couple of weeks, so please say if I can help with further info.
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Hi
There was a Caravan Park on Woburn Hill Addlestone Moor in the 1970's. I don't recall it was a Travellers Site but a few possibly lived there.
Update: Spoken to a local of the area, 'Gerry Cottles Circus' used to be based there.
There was a Travellers site at the top of ' Free Prae Road' in Chertsey. Off Eastworth Road?
Not sure if they are still there, not been that way in years.
Good luck
Reyz.
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i am totally new to this kind of thing, coming into computors later on i n life ,please bear with me.I noticed someone was enquiring about the caravan park at the foot of Woburn hill called Brackendene farm,I lived there in a caravan for quite few years in the 60s. It was a residential site and at that time ,a bit rough and ready to start with but improved as new management came in.I remember a person called Percy stamp used to run things at first, he was a good chap who would sometimes take some of us youngsters to maidstone and other places just for the company. He was
a genuine good sort of bloke. The caravan park was not a Gypsy site,it was run as a business by someone we never knew,we paid our ground rent for our plot which we kept tidy or a letter was issued as a warning.What happened to the place after we left in the late sixtys ,I don,t know,but if anyone remembers those times on Woburn Park Farm as it was then,i would be interested, especially
if they also went to stepgates secondary modern school at the time regards Kelty
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You've reminded me that I found a couple more bits of information about Brackendene - Chertsey museum have a map from the 1960s showing the site and the "avenues" that the caravans were set out on. The rent book that they have is in the name of Ashfold or Ashfield.
Kelty, although I'm trying to piece together a bit of local history rather than family history, could I PM you with a couple of questions please?
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hello amber rabbit I would be delighted to assist you if I can. Kelty
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Kelty and Amber rabbit Welcome to rootschat
You will both need to have done 3 posts before you can PM each other ;D
Rosie
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Thanks for the advice Rosie! I think you need to post another message Kelty then I can send you that message.
Once I have the time to pick up my neglected family history research there will be no stopping me :)
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hi there ,regarding Brackendene farm again ,i would like to know what the place was originally,there is a picture posted that shows the water gardens running through the middle of the park,all the stonework bridge supports are man made, when i was resident there,pathways ran either side with evidence that there were some nice gardens here onetime,however even in my time there,all this had deteriorated,the picture shows much greater decline ,just what was the place in its heyday?does any one know?
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hi to all
sorry i haven't been on site for a while, (computer problems),
just like to add the reason i was intrested in this caravan park was i was born there in the early 60s & members of my family lived there for many years afterwards but i couldn't find any info about it,
thewelshcockney
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After a couple of years of searching, it's wonderful to find two people who lived in Brackendene!
It was originally formed one corner of Woburn Park, a famous 18th century garden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Southcote but the concrete gardens formations must be a 20th century addition.
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Hi Kelty
Never would have believed I would have had a memory sparked but I also remember Percy Stamp. I didn't live on the caravan site but on the Meads and did come across him. Remember the caravan site well as I wasn't allowed to go there, so of course I did!
Sally
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I am trying to find out more about an Anne Fahey/Reardon who lived in a caravan around the Weybridge/Addlestone area in the 1960s she had a son called Michael and later a daughter called Maria.
She later went by the name of Collison and lived with Albert or 'Bert'.
Maria was born 1957 in Woking by C section and was the daughter of 'Bert'.
If anyone can remember or give any clues to the site or the persons mentioned here I would be most grateful.
:D
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hi i lived on brackendean site from around 1959 to 63 we lived on second avenue around the fifth site on left parents names are mark & rene harrison my dad worked at the council yard just up past clay corner right up untill the time he retired, i started school at stepgates,bad memories of a class room full of stuffed birds in glass cases. email me on jeannettesmith77@hotmail.com & i will send some photos of myself & brothers taken on the site will ask my dad if he remembers names as he knew every one. one name i remember is the westerns.
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i am totally new to this kind of thing, coming into computors later on i n life ,please bear with me.I noticed someone was enquiring about the caravan park at the foot of Woburn hill called Brackendene farm,I lived there in a caravan for quite few years in the 60s. It was a residential site and at that time ,a bit rough and ready to start with but improved as new management came in.I remember a person called Percy stamp used to run things at first, he was a good chap who would sometimes take some of us youngsters to maidstone and other places just for the company. He was
a genuine good sort of bloke. The caravan park was not a Gypsy site,it was run as a business by someone we never knew,we paid our ground rent for our plot which we kept tidy or a letter was issued as a warning.What happened to the place after we left in the late sixtys ,I don,t know,but if anyone remembers those times on Woburn Park Farm as it was then,i would be interested, especially
if they also went to stepgates secondary modern school at the time regards Kelty
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i am totally new to this kind of thing, coming into computors later on i n life ,please bear with me.I noticed someone was enquiring about the caravan park at the foot of Woburn hill called Brackendene farm,I lived there in a caravan for quite few years in the 60s. It was a residential site and at that time ,a bit rough and ready to start with but improved as new management came in.I remember a person called Percy stamp used to run things at first, he was a good chap who would sometimes take some of us youngsters to maidstone and other places just for the company. He was
a genuine good sort of bloke. The caravan park was not a Gypsy site,it was run as a business by someone we never knew,we paid our ground rent for our plot which we kept tidy or a letter was issued as a warning.What happened to the place after we left in the late sixtys ,I don,t know,but if anyone remembers those times on Woburn Park Farm as it was then,i would be interested, especially
if they also went to stepgates secondary modern school at the time regards Kelty
Moderator Comment: topics merged
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I am trying to find out more about an Anne Fahey/Reardon who lived in a caravan around the Weybridge/Addlestone area in the 1960s she had a son called Michael and later a daughter called Maria.
She later went by the name of Collison and lived with Albert or 'Bert'.
Maria was born 1957 in Woking by C section and was the daughter of 'Bert'.
If anyone can remember or give any clues to the site or the persons mentioned here I would be most grateful.
:D
Just seen this Aquagirl (more that a bit late I know!)
There were several caravan sites in this area in the 1950s and 60s. As well as Brackendene, Addlestone, there was another site a couple of hundred yards away in Mead Lane, Chertsey (partly still there) another a bit further towards Weybridge in Weybridge Road, Addlestone (I think this is called Meadowlands - still there) and yet another by the River Wey in Weybridge which I think is called something like Wey Meadows, also still there. I wouldn't mind betting that there were more too.
Now that I'm back on the trail of my bit of local history, I will email you Jane Harrison just in case you dad can help with a few memories.
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Thanks for the information - would be great to get more especially on Michael Reardon (mother Anne) born around 1952 as we cannot find out what happened to him.
He was rumoured to have died but we cannot find any death record (in either name Fahey or Reardon) - he must have died prior to 1975 (maybe 1972-74?) we were told (possibly most unreliably) that he died at home in tragic circumstances resulting in an inquest.
If this was true probably recorded in the local press at the time but we don't know.
Any information would be great.
Other names used by this family are Collinson and Collison - subtle change but why?
Albert Collison was a metal polisher and ex-military policeman who lived with Anne Fahey.
Here's hoping for more!
??? ;D
All a bit strange really
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Hi
I'm trying to find any information on my Grandfather John Collis, He lived on the Brackendene caravan site some time in the 50s to the early 60s. He was married to a lady called Ada but went by her middle name Helen. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. :)
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Was this their marriage?
Marriages March quarter 1954
John G Collis Tibbey Surrey N. E.
Ada H Tibbey Collis Surrey N.E.
Added:
Is Ada/Helen still alive, as cannot see her in 1939?
OK, death:
Ada Helen Collis
died age 82 (approx.1932) at Addlestone, Surrey, on 17th June 2014
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John G and Ada H Collis are shown living on 6th Avenue, Brackendene, in 1962 ER's (Ancestry).
On 3rd Avenue in 1958.
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That all looks good :)
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That all looks good :)
I visited my cousin who also lived on the site on 1st ave he is in the early stages of memory loss but I was surprised how much he did remember of them early years he remembers walking to school with a Micheal & his mum or micky as he called ( Cousin was also a micheal called mickey) him & said he stopped playing with him when he moved over the bridge as he was not allowed near the pond thing after he almost got my brother drowned in it have sketched a rough copy as we remember the site .as a thought your micheal must have gone to the same school as us = Stepgates there is a picture of this school on google & you might be able to get some record of pupil administration
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(http://) sorry wont allow me to post a picture
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Guide to posting pictures:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=130922.0
BUT I think I read somewhere that you cannot post to a Look Up Request - however I could be completely wrong about that.
In other words - It may be you, or it may be 'them'.
Try posting to Chalky44 on a different board as he has several requests.