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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: woodlea on Sunday 08 March 09 12:20 GMT (UK)
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Would like some help on the location of Gasstown, Dumfries. Trying to trace any relatives of my Great Grandmother Sarah Turner b1845c Gasstown. On 1851 census with Grandparents. Her parents were John Turner & Mary McNoe.
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Google 'Get-a-map' and enter the postcode DG1 3JP in the search box.
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Thank you Isles will try this. Want to hire the Parish Records from LDS but need the correct area.
Eileen
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gasstown is just on the edge of dumfries 1851 census william mcnoe 61 tailor born new abbey janet mcnoe wife 60 born burntisland fife sarah turner 3 grand daughter john mcnoe grandson 3 thomas grandson 11 csc
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Thank you CSC for this information. :)
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there are a lot of people in the new abbey area probably related to william if i get any more i will send csc
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19 listings for mcnoes new abbey before 1854 more than 30 for kirkcudbrightshire births parents wiliam mcnoe and janet maxwell william 06 03 1792 joseph 03 03 1798 john 31 08 1795 in the 1841 census gasstown john mcnoe ag lab 40 agnes 40 william 15 jannet 20 irving 9 there are a lot of irving mcnoes in the new abbey lot i dont know if you have been here new abbey is about 10 miles from gasstown csc
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do you know if sarah was a domestic servant or her husbands name or if there are any brothers or sisters she may have been with grandparents if parents dead or mum having another baby csc
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Hello CSC
Only thing I know about Sarah Turner is she was born 1847c Dumfries & married James Bryson b1846 Gretna. They married 4 Dec. 1868 Dumfries.
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james bryson family 1861 census father robert ag lab born hoddam dinah 55 agnes 26 born gretna ann19 gretna dinah 16 gretna james 14 gretna 1871 census james 24 sarah 24 dinah 2 joseph 1 month bowness cumberland csc
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1881 james 34 fisherman sarah 34 dinah 11 joseph10 agnes 7 sarah 5georgina 3 james 2 1891 james 44 no mum dinah 21 robert18 sarah 15 georgina 13 eliza 11 james r bryson 1 1901 james 54 fisherman eliza j 21 james r grandson 12 csc
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there are a familyof turners in the 1841 census dumfries at 5 harries close father john 42 ag lab mother mary40 isabella 14 john 3 mary 5 william 16 clockmaker i am not sure about them if they are right sarah would be later i will see if i can connect them csc
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Thank you CSC for all this great information. Eliza Bryson was my Grandmother.
The Turner census for 1841 seems very promising.
Eileen
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james bryson and myself have something in common we were both born gretna hence the interest csc
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Have ordered the Parish Registers for Dumfries. Perhaps they will give me some answers.
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do you knowwhen sarah died if it was wigton you can get a copy of her death from the registrar i got some from cockermouth a few weeks ago 7pds 50 each you can e mail them andpay with your card on phone try to find when she died csc
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Sarah died in the Wigton workhouse & was buried 26
March 1918.
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yes i did see that one i thought it could not be her as she was not at home the last 2 census it would be very hard life keeping all those children how many of us could manage certainly not me she probably did a good job wnen she could csc
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Must have been a hard life. James went on to marry again & have another son. He lived to the ripe old age of 96yrs.
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i dont think sarahs grandparents have been exactly poor she married in st marys church her bridesmaid is her cousin willhelmina born 1852 that is not a poor persons wedding 1861 census janet 71 grandmother no grandfather agnes 41 daughter thomas 21 son of agnes john13 son of agnes willhelmina9 granddaughter thomas mcnoe male about 1860 1871 janet 81 agnes 51 born gibralter willhelmina 19 thomas 11 grandson john s stundell grandson 2 margaret beattie 21 servant in the 1841 there is also an elizabeth 18 born ireland i have also found a william mcnoe born dumfries age 21 enlisting in the u s army in 1844 says he has grey brown eyes and is5ft 7ins this family is well travelled csc
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Hi there
I'm new to Rootschat and I've just come across this thread with the very unusual surname of McNoe. I think we are related. The grandparents of Janet Turner- William McNoe and Janet in Gasstown- this William was born in New Abbey in 1792 on 6th March. His parents were a William McNoe (born 1758 New Abbey. Occupation- Weaver) and Janet Maxwell. We're related through this William's brother, Irving McNoe (born 1761 New Abbey) who is my 5xgreat grandfather.
Now, I have done a bit of searching of the McNoes in New Abbey and beyond, simply because it's such an unusual surname and there aren't many of them about. William McNoe, born 1792, intrigued me so I looked into him. In the Old Parish Records on Scotlands People, there is a marriage for William McNoe soldier in the 26th Regiment of Foot, Edinburgh and Janet Shand, 5th June 1815.
So William's career as a soldier explains the different birthplaces of his children. William, born in New Abbey, was discharged from the army in 1829 aged 39. His discharge papers also confirmed he served in 26th Foot Regiment and had served from 1807 to 1829. William and family returned to Dumfries and he continued his job as a tailor (just like my Irving McNoe). Hope this is useful.
Thanks
Joycie
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I've just seen you've mentioned finding a William McNoe enlisting in the US Army in 1844. Yes, it's one of our McNoes! William enlisted in Kentucky for five years but deserted in 1846. His brother Irving McNoe (born 1827 Dumfries) also enlisted in the US Army on 9th February 1852 in Kentucky but was discharged on 29th March.
Their parents were John McNoe (born 1792 in New Abbey) and Agnes Smith (born 1801 in Dumfries-shire). This John's parents were Irving McNoe (my 5x great-grandfather) and Jean Graham.
It all takes a bit of working out!
Thanks
Joycie