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Am looking for birth details for Hannah Jameson.
She married George Faithen/Faithan ( also has it spelt FITHYE ??)1866 3rd q 10b 329
Allot of Hannah Jamesons for Newcastle area. But I am puzzled
If they Hannah And George were married 1866,
1871 census inf
RG10/5088 23 40
NEWCASTLE ST ANDREWS
11 Prudhoe Terrace
George Feathen Head 50, Bootmaker, B in Scoland
Elizabeth, Wife,45 B in Scotland
George son un married, 21, painter B Scotland ( Why is he showning as unmarried and still @ home with parents???
I don't understand??
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Hi
You haven't given any details of her approx birthyear or her birthplace from later censuses
You will need to buy a copy of the 1866 marriage cert to establish her fathers name if there are several entries
I also suspect you may have the wrong 1871 entry - if that George was only 21 in 1871 - that would make him around 16 when he married Hannah. Again - the marriage cert will show his fathers name and occupation
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16 yes but it was legal I take it???
He died aged 25
So Florence Faithen B 1897 is no his BIO child not poss!!!
Have to order allot of cert now, omgosh more money, more money
Thanks for you reply
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What year did he die? If he was only 16 when he married and died at 25 (9yrs later) he must have died in or around 1875/6
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in 1881 Hannah had Maried Again showning as Hannah Rose not Faithan.
her age is 31 in 1881 so that make her date of birth 1850. so she would have been really young 16 as well when she married George Faithen
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Something not quite right here
Hannah Jameson marries George Faithen in 1866
George dies approx 1875/76 and Hannah remarries by 1881
But she doesn't re-marry as either Hannah Faithen or Hannah Jameson - she re-marries under the name Hannah Rose. So where does the surname Rose come from?
Who did she re-marry? - will you please post the FULL 1881 census so we can have a look
You have posted on the Durham board but say that Hannah was b Newcastle which is Northumberland
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It seems that she married Mr William Rose around that time 1881,
Shows on census]
William Rose 34
Hannah Rose 31
Sarah Elizabeth. Rose 9
Agnes Rose 6
William Rose 2
Sarah Elizabeth Was never Rose Nor Agnes ????
Mother must have been tring to appear as Normal Family with one Family name??
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Per freebmd
Marriages December qtr 1876
Faithan Hannah Newcastle on Tyne 10b 239
Rose William Newcastle on Tyne 10b 239
Full 1881 census details with birthplaces - children all b Newcastle
65 Sycamore St Elswick Northumberland
William Rose 34 b Norfolk
Hannah 31 b Blaydon Durham
Sarah Elizabeth 9
Agnes 6
William 2
Births March qtr 1872
Faithan Sarah Elizabeth Newcastle on Tyne 10b 56
Births September qtr 1874
Faithan Agnes Newcastle on Tyne 10b 55
Deaths
George Faithan aged 25 September qtr 1875 Newcastle Upon Tyne Volume: 10b Page: 30
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Am looking for birth details for Hannah Jameson.
Allot of Hannah Jamesons for Newcastle area
1881 shows her b Durham Blaydon
1891 shows her b Northumberland Newcastle
1901 shows Durham Blaydon
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Thanks carole,
you been a big help, any idea how i would find them on 1911 were would I go and how much would it cost????
Have no way to search 1911 for free, but will keep on trying.
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Hello Faithen
You can search the 1911 census free here: http://www.1911census.co.uk/
then if you find the person, you can buy credits as shown on the website
For 10 credits (which cost between 83p and £1.16, depending on the package you buy) you can view a full transcript of everyone in the household, or a whole page of an institution.
Viewing the images of the household pages uses 30 credits, which costs from £2.50 to £3.48, depending on the package of credits that you buy.
Kind regards
Barbara
:)
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Hi
The 1911 for Northumberland is not yet available
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Thankyou Barbara
I have had a go unable to fin of hem at the moment but will keep trying.
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Yes, sorry both, I was just answering with general information about searching the 1911 census and costs for transcripts, and omitted to mention that unfortunately it's not available for the Northumberland, Durham and North Yorkshire (and some other) areas yet, but should be by the summer, if you can wait a couple of months!
Kind regards
Barbara
:)
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Still unable to find Hannah Jameson B 1850 blaydo?????? on 1851-1861
No sign of that birth date any way
SOME THING IS WRONG HERE
EITHER THE NAME JAMESON OR DATE OF BIRTH ??? CONFUSSED.
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Still unable to find Hannah Jameson B 1850 blaydon??????
on 1851-1861
No sign of that birth date any way
SOME THING IS WRONG HERE
EITHER THE NAME JAMESON OR DATE OF BIRTH ??? CONFUSSED.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have had a " digg about " and unable to turn up anything.
Jameson DO show up in North est but no Hannah Jameson B 1850????
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Hannah's birthyear is 100% consistent between 1881-1901 - 1850 - but there is no birth reg in either Durham or Northumberland on freebmd. I have also tried under Jamieson
Although Civil Reg was introduced in 1837 - it only became compulsory to register a birth from 1875. Many births went unregistered.
There is no 1851 entry with a birthplace of Blaydon but birthplaces could change from census to census. Hannah was a baby in 1851 so her parents may have shown a different area of Durham as her birthplace to the one she herself shows in later censuses
Gateshead was the registration district which included Blaydon
See my further reply below
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I had this wonderful theory - unfortunately, as I researched it the flaws became obvious!!
What I really do think is that Hannah was illegitimate and her mother married after her birth. The only Hannah with the right birthyear and birthplace on the 1851 is Hannah Robson - mother Jane father Thomas
I thought perhaps Thomas was previously married (2 older children in h/h) but there is no Robson/Jameson marriage between 1849-1851
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I am not surprised really this is a game of waiting.
I am still unable to find death record for Sarah Elizabeth Newell nee Faithen/Faithan B 1872.
still hunting for deaths for Hannah Rose Nee Faithen Nee whatever her name was???? when she was born.
Can only find records for one of her Children David Newell Faithen b 1903, but there were more.
And still looking for Agneses to, Agnes Thompson nee Faithan. B 1874
Thanks to you all for all your help and bring on the summer!!!!
LOL
Faithen
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Or another alternative from my first reply
You will need to buy a copy of the 1866 marriage cert to establish her fathers name
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You are right Carole,
BUT if they told lies on Census, not saying thay DID, but IF THEY DID, they they lie on all certificates too, sure??
Cannot find any listing for her maybe she was born in scotland or something like that??
still hunting
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WAT IF SHE WAS BORN IN A WORKHOUSE?????? IN BLAYDON? mAYBE
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UPDATE
George Fithye born in Tynemouth, 1840 Married 1866 ELIZABETH JOHNSTON
Fithye/Faithen Same person
HE DID NOT DIE IN 1875 ( aged 25)
He had six children with wife, and two with Hannah Bilcliff ( MY GGrandmother) Thank the lord for dna.
I applied for his ( My GGrandfather) death certificate.
he actually died Tynemouth 1907.
Thank you to everyone who helped