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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Oxfordshire => England => Oxfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: rene oliver on Wednesday 18 March 09 16:02 GMT (UK)
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Mary Oliver bn. 1746 in Finstock, oxfordshire married a Joseph Launchbury in Charlbury in 1784. Does anyone know if this was Marys first marriage or was she a widow (previously married to an Oliver)?
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Hi Oliver,
the only way I can think to find this info is in Parish Records.
You could try Genuki but I'm not sure if they have Oxfordshire.
Otherwise google "Charlbury Parish Records" and see what turns up.
good luck,
Leonie.
;D
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Hi Oliver,
Go with Leonie's advice and perhaps you can also look at the IGI on familysearch site- if it doesn't turn up in your googling.
Pre 1837 stuff is sheer slog ::)
charlotte
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Hello rene oliver,
Welcome to RootsChat.
I wonder what is the source of your information about Mary's birth date and place, and the marriage of Joseph & Mary, and also what makes you suspect that Mary might have been a widow when she married Joseph.
In general, the IGI (International Genealogical Index) at http://www.familysearch.org has very poor coverage of Oxfordshire.
Although I notice that it does have (as you are probably aware) the baptisms of some six children to Joseph LAUNCHBURY (variously spelled) & Mary between 1785 and 1798. The same batch also has a 1779 baptism of a son Thomas to a William OLIVER & a Mary.
The best source for Oxfordshire records is, I understand, the Oxfordshire Family History Society.
Here is a link to a thread which has a great deal of information (posted by Valda) re where to find Oxfordshire records:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,250067.0.html
I would suggest that you have a look at that thread, and also put your query on the Oxfordshire board with as much information as you have.
Good luck!
Kind regards,
JAP
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Hi again Rene Oliver,
Friday was not a good day for me ::)
So lets star again and get it right.
Hi ;D and welcome to RootsChat.
Leonie.
;D
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Hi there. Thanks for replying. I am new to this discovery business and need all the help I can get at times. So no day is a good day for me. New to a computer too, so things I think I have safely stored away never see the light of day again. No doubt I will win one of these days. Nearer 70 than 60 so these `good` days get less and less. But hey, the sun is shining an d it is good to be alive e.
Regards, Rene Oliver
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That's the spirit Rene. :D
If you're new to computers I hope you have a good genealogy program.
The easiest one to get is LEGACY, it's free, easy to use, and is often advertised at the top or bottom of these pages.
Using such a program helps with the losing stuff bit.
Legacy also connects direct to the LSD FamilySearch web site which is a great help.
Leonie.
;D
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Hi Rene
I have transcripts for Charlbury
- there is no other information on that marriage other than that it was by banns, looking at the other entries around that time, the ones which were for widow(er)s do seem to be noted so I would say there is a good chance that Oliver was her maiden name.
:)
DebbieG
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Ok - I have now had time to look a bit further - I will take back what I said up there :D
There are only 2 mentions of the surname Oliver in the Charlbury registers beween 1740 and 1800, the marriage already mentioned and a baptism in 1779 of Thomas s/o William & Mary Oliver of Finstock, there is no baptism for a Mary Oliver of Finstock around the time we would be looking.
From the Oxford Marriage index there is a marriage in 1775 (26th Sept) in Stonesfield, which is very close to Finstock of William Oliver to Mary Hancock of Finstock. I could not see a burial for William in the Charlbury registers which cover Finstock - but it could possibly be in Stonesfield and I don't have those registers.
There is a baptism in the Charlbury registers
1747 4th Nov Mary House Hancock d/o Elizabeth Hancock of Charlbury base born which would fit with the dates given. So I will have to backtrack and say it is quite probable that Mary was a widow when she married Joseph Launchbury, though it would be more convincing if a burial for her first husband William Oliver could be located.
DebbieG
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Hi Debbie. Thanks for all your hard work. If only I still lived up that way. I was born in Combe and spent many lovely hours doing my courting in Finstock and Stonesfield. Sadly I moved to East Anglia in 1963 and so have lost contact with any family and friends in that area. One day I will return!!! I came from what my Father (William Oliver) called the Finstock Olivers. We knew dozens of Stonesfield Olivers, but always said we were not related at all. Looking back though, several of the Stonesfield Olivers were very much like the Finstock clan in appearance, short and stocky with usually a mass of wiry hair (on their heads).
I am thinking that maybe the William Oliver of around 1750 was a Stonesfield Oliver and he married Mary Hancock or Finstock. Hence the Finstock clan. She then became widowed and went on to marry Joseph Launchbury. During her marriage to William Oliver they produced two children - James and Thomas. IF ONLY IT WERE AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
As you say we need a date and proof of William Olivers death and proof that my Mary (no-name) was in fact Mary Hancock who later became Mary Launchbury. I have been in contact with a person who has a tree with the Launchbury Mary, but he cannot shed any light on the matter, my other contact in Finstock is having trouble with his viewer for his micro films of the parish records etc.
Do you live local to that area?
Back to the notes!!!!!
Regards, Rene
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You are very welcome Rene - glad if I could help in a small way. No I don't live in the area, but I have been researching Payton, Painton and various spellings from Oxford & Berkshire for several years now and I have collected various microfiche and CDs from the OFHS over the years which I do lookups like this on. If anything else occurs to me about your people I will be sure and get back to you
:)
DebbieG
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Hi we have that same Joseph Launchbury in our family tree, perhaps we can share info
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Hi `Kiawah`, Thank you for replying.
I am still trying to trace the elusive Mary Oliver. I have instincts, thoughts, theories etc. but no proof of anything at all. So here is what I have -
William Oliver bn. 1748 (son of William and Ann)
married
Mary Hancock, spinster of Finstock. bn. 1747
Children of that marriage: James bn. 1777
Thomas bn. 1779 (Thomas is my line)
No death of William recorded as far as I can see.
No more children for this couple.
Then we have a Mary Oliver turn up who was bn. abt. 1746 who married Joseph Launchbury in 1784.
The big question is - who was this Mary Oliver. Was she the widow of William. It would have been unusual to have had only two children in those days.
So perhaps William died and then she married Joseph as a widow.
If you do know anything at all please put me out of my misery.
Regards, Irene
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Thank u Irene for info I will email all I have on the Launchbury line at wk end to you direct.
kiawah