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Title: Robert BUSH
Post by: HSU on Friday 03 April 09 22:51 BST (UK)
I am looking for info on Robert Bush born circa 1841 in Mellis, Suffolk.  Father was possibly Rueben.

By 1881 he had moved to Marske on Sea in Yorkshire and had married a Charlotte Wallis.

Any info prior to 1881 would be much appreciated.

Regards,  Dennis
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Friday 03 April 09 23:00 BST (UK)
Hi
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1851 Census Mellis Green Suffolk

Benjamin Bush     43 b Yaxley Ag Lab
Marsa Bush [Maria]   40 B Mellis
Robert Bush    17 B Mellis Son Ag Lab
Thomas Bush    9 B Mellis
Mary Ann Bush    6 B Mellis
Matilda Bush    3 B Mellis

HO107/1795; Folio: 399; Page: 21;

Wendy  ;D
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Friday 03 April 09 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi

1841 Mellis P. B.

Rueben Bush     30 Ag Lab
Maria Bush    29
Ann Bush    10
Robert Bush    8
John Bush    5
Samuel Bush    3
   
All b in County
HO107; Piece 1023; Book: 11; Folio: 10; Page: 15

Wendy ;D
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Friday 03 April 09 23:17 BST (UK)


Reuben Bush     Spouse:     Maria Mowle    
     Marriage 12 APR 1830      Yaxley, Suffolk, England
Wendy ;D
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Friday 03 April 09 23:32 BST (UK)
Hi

Parents Reuben & Maria Bush
ROBERT BUSH Chr 06 AUG 1837 Mellis, Suffolk
Thomas Chr 31 OCT 1842  Mellis, Suffolk,
John  Chr 06 AUG 1837  Mellis, Suffolk,
Samuel Chr 19 AUG 1838  Suffolk County Bts, Suffolk, England

Wendy  ;D
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Friday 03 April 09 23:49 BST (UK)
1871 Census for Chapel Farm, Thornham Parva Sufolk
Benjamin Bush  64 Ag Lab b Mellis Suffolk
Maria Bush    60 Washerwoman b Yaxley
Thomas Bush    28 Son UnMar Ag Lab b Mellis
RG10/1738; Folio: 74;

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1861 for Morley Row Mellis Suffolk
Name     Age
Reuben Buth [Bush] 53 ag Lab b Mellis
Maria Buth [Bush] 50  b Yaxley
Thomas Buth [Bush] 18 Ag Lab b Mellis
Matilda Buth [Bush]   13 b Mellis
RG9/1149; Folio: 56; Page: 17


I'm Confused. Do you think he's the same man or he interchanging with Benjamin ::)
Wendy   ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Saturday 04 April 09 00:00 BST (UK)
Hi Dennis

I've just noticed that Matilda is in the 1851 Census with Benjamin as her father but in the 1861 she is with Reuben as her father.

Do you think he could be Reuben Benjamin or Benjamin Reuben?

Wendy  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: HSU on Saturday 04 April 09 09:45 BST (UK)
Hello Wendy,

Thanks for your many, prompt and helpful replies.  A lot of info for me to take in!  I will look at it all and see what I can make of it, then get back to you.

From some of the local info, can I assume you are Suffolk based?

Thanks again for your generous help.

Best wishes,

Dennis
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: wendy47 on Saturday 04 April 09 12:13 BST (UK)
Hi Dennis

I do live on the Suffolk/Norfolk border, although I'm from Berkshire, but all the info was from the censuses & IGI.

I found London [mid 1800's] relatives from Mendelsham Suffolk, which I had no idea about when we retired here and
I believe it is not too far from Mellis/Yaxley, which is very close to Diss where I shop.

Most records, I believe, would be in Ipswich.

Hope you can make sense of my info  ;D

Wendy ;D
Title: Re: Robert Bush
Post by: HSU on Sunday 05 April 09 18:17 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy,

Thanks for your reply.  I think what you have found for the Bush family fits together well in spite of the confusion with Rueben/Benjamin.  I wonder if Rueben is some sort of derivative from Benjamin?  Or, as you say, he maybe had two names?

I have been looking at death references for the various children and I think I have found credible ones for Ann, John, Mary Ann but not for Samuel.

Ditto for Maria and Benjamin.  Maria's looks OK but Benjamin, difficult again, has a too young death age.

I have found Robert in 1871 at RG 10/4851/109/13 and maybe(?) in 1861 at RG 9/4491/50.

Regards,

Dennis
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 06 April 09 14:48 BST (UK)
Hi Dennis

I presume you are looking for Reuben

Deaths Dec 1890
Bush    Reuben aged 84    Hartismere    4a    494

Wendy ;D
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: HSU on Monday 06 April 09 15:22 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy,

Thanks for that.  I did not find that one, cannot imagine why not,  but it looks good to me.  However, thus far I have not found him in the 1881 census.

Regards,

Dennis
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 06 April 09 15:41 BST (UK)
Dennis

I couldn't find him either ;D

Wendy
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 06 April 09 16:08 BST (UK)
Hi

Just to add to Wendy47's post from the NBI

Reuben Bush   
 
buried 24 Nov 1890 Age  84
 
Buried at St Mary the Virgin, Mellis


Rosie
 

Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: wendy47 on Monday 06 April 09 16:14 BST (UK)
I checked the whole of Mellis & Thornham Parva 1881 censuses and there is no sign of Benjamin/Reuben.

Wendy ;D
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 06 April 09 16:46 BST (UK)
Hi

Not having much luck looking for burials in Mellis but this may confirm what you think for Ann.

Ann BUSH buried 30 Mar 1851 age 20 at St Mary the Virgin, Mellis

Rosie
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: HSU on Tuesday 07 April 09 14:48 BST (UK)
Hi Wendy and Rosie,

Thank you both for your latest contributions.  Pity we cannot find Rueben in 1881 but maybe he was in Hospital or some other institution?

Thanks for the burial details for Rueben and Ann,  they seem to fit fine Rosie.  I have possible deaths for John in JAS 1846,  Mary Ann in OND 1859 and Maria in JAS 1876.  Nothing yet for Samuel.

Best wishes to both,

Dennis
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 07 April 09 15:22 BST (UK)
Hi Dennis

NBI burial for John as per your possible is
 John Bush buried 10th August 1846 age 39 at St Peter, Ipswich.

There is nothing I can find for Mary Ann or James that matches your dates and no trace of Samuel either.

Rosie
Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: grahamtate on Friday 12 February 10 10:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Can you please contact me regarding Robert Bush, I am his great great grandson and have some information on him and his father Reuben sometimes known as Ben, and recorded incorrect by the census as Benjamin.  - please mail me at (*)

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Title: Re: Robert BUSH
Post by: HSU on Saturday 13 February 10 17:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Graham,

Thanks for the message.  I would be grateful for any info you have on Robert, my Great Grandfather & Rueben.

Regards,

Dennis