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Title: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: spof on Friday 08 May 09 00:50 BST (UK)

NAME   Verpillot, Aime Constant         
SN   4885         
RANK    Private         
UNIT   53 Bn         
HONOUR   Standard entitlements         
BORN   La Jonchere Neufchatel Switzerland         
OCCUPATION   Scroll maker (wire worker)         
RELIGION   Methodist         
           
DOE   06.09.1915 Warwick Farm NSW         
AGE   24         
           
           
STATUS   KIA         
DATE   19.07.1916         
AGE   25         
BURIED   Unknown         
MEMORIAL   VC Corner Cemetery Memorial panel 9         
   AWM 158         
           
DESCRIPTION   5 foot 9 1/2 dark brown hair         
           
NOTES   Arrived in Australia aged 20         

   Naturalisation papers (1915/14267) at NAA dated 1915         
           
   ID disk returned by German authorities         
           
   Educated at public school in Switzerland and Grammar School Coventry England         
           
   I THINK THIS FAMILY WERE FRENCH AND MOVED AROUND THE GLOBE         
           
NOK   Father: Charles Eugene Verpillot
   Known address 1922: Ville des Pins, Caromb Vaucluse France.
   He was a watchmaker.  http://www.coventrywatchmuseum.co.uk/
   
   Mother: Berthe Verpillot (nee Venne as Ruth is listed as sister in law on census)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Friday 08 May 09 05:48 BST (UK)

Bit More

Aime VERPILLOT

Regimental number 4885
Place of birth Neuchatel, Switzerland
School Public in School in Switzerland and Grammar School in Coventry, England.
Age on arrival in Australia 20  Religion Methodist Occupation Scroll maker Address 15 Barnacliff Avenue, Bondi, New South Wales Marital status Single Age at embarkation 24 Height 5' 9.5" Weight 133 lbs Next of kin Father, E Verpillot, 15 Barnacliff Avenue, Bondi, New South Wales
Previous military service Nil Enlistment date 6 September 1915 Place of enlistment Warwick Farm, New South Wales
Rank on enlistment Private Unit name 1st Battalion, 15th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/18/4
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A15 Star Of England on 8 March 1916 Rank from Nominal Roll Private Unit from Nominal Roll 53rd Battalion Fate Killed in Action 19 July 1916 Place of death or wounding Fleurbaix, France Age at death 25 age at death from cemetery records 25 Place of burial No known grave Commemoration details V.C. Corner (Panel No 9), Australian Cemetery Memorial, Fromelles, France
Panel number, Roll of Honour,Australian War Memorial 158 Miscellaneous information from
  cemetery records Parents: Charles Euguene and Berthe VERPILLOT, 15 Barracluff Avenue, Bondi, New South Wales. Native of Neuchatel, Switzerland Other details War service: Egypt, Western Front

Taken on strength 53rd Bn, Tel el Kebir, 20 April 1916.Embarked Alexandria to join the British Expeditionary Force, 19 June 1916; disembarked Marseilles, France, 28 June 1916.Reported as missing in action, 19 July 1916.

Identification disc received from Germany, no particulars afforded except that soldier is deceased. To be reported as killed in action, 19 July 1916, on the authority of the Assistant Adjutant General, ANZAC Section, War Office, 24 February 1917.

Advice received from Australian Red Cross, Wounded and Missing Enquiry Bureau, 18 October 1920, 'Verpillo[t] A. 4885. 53 Batl. A.T.F. Fell 19.7.16 near Fromelles. Final German Death List, S'

On 8 August 1922, the Officer in Charge, Australian Graves Services, wrote, 'Although exhaustive searches and investigations have been made with the object of locating the grave of the above named [Pte Verpillot], it has not been possible either to locate his actual burial place or obtain any information which might indicate his probable original or present resting place.'

Red Cross File No 2820107: 'The above name appeared on German death list dated 4-11-16'.

Statement, 4828 Pte A. McKELL, B Company, 53rd Bn, 30 December 1918: '[He was] Of B. Coy. on 19th July at Fleurbaix during general action, was killed by bullet, don't know where hit. I saw his body on the field, in No Man's Land, close to L/Cpl. E.A. Hubbard, and J. LARKIN. We were taken P/W next day.'

Medals: British War Medal, Victory Medal
Miscellaneous details Father's subsequent address 'Ville des pins', Caromb, Vaucluse, France Sources NAA: B2455, VERPILLOT Aime
Red Cross File No 2820107

http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=308733

LEST WE FORGET

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Friday 08 May 09 10:23 BST (UK)

On a submitted LDS record:
Alice Eugénie VERPILLOT (female) born 19 JAN 1890   Les Breuleux, Bern, Switzerland married on 31 MAY 1922 at Seloncourt, Doubs, France to Célien Germain Joseph DONZE .  I am unsure if there is any connection, and I am also unsure of how to follow up, as I usually suspect submitted records. 
JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Friday 08 May 09 10:58 BST (UK)

On a ge*ggle search online I have spotted:

Verpillot: Marcel Antonin, born 14 January 1921 at Seloncourt Doubs France, died on 10 February 1945 in Buchenwald (Germany); 

I think perhaps that may indicate that Marcel Verpillot may have died in a Concentration Camp in Germany.   I have no way of figuring out if Marcel was perhaps a nephew to Aime Verpillot who fell at Fromelles 19 July 1916.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Saturday 09 May 09 05:20 BST (UK)

Does any rootschatter have any thoughts about following up on any of the French or Swiss clues please

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Saturday 09 May 09 05:30 BST (UK)

This Lad, applied for and was granted "British Subject" status (ie the equivalent of Australian Citizenship that only came into force after WW2) so that he could ENLIST.

His naturalisation papers show his dated of birth as 12 May 1891 and place of birth as La Jonchise (my poor transcibing only) in the Swiss Canton of  Neuchatel.  He had been in NSW for 2 years and 11 months.  His approval for citizenship came through in mid September 1915, days after his enlistment.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Saturday 09 May 09 07:30 BST (UK)

Just to alert you to his occupation.  One database has it as watch maker, another has it as scroll maker, and on his naturalisation papers in his own handwriting it states "Gate Maker", which I think is perhaps a reliable source.  Perhaps that indicates he was a metal worker.

He states in those papers that he arrived in Sydney from New Zealand on 17 September 1912. He was not married, and his application was supported by  William David Sheerwood, who knew him.   William Sheerwood was a Sergeant of Police, stationed at No. 4 Police Station, and attested that Aime was "known to me, and is a person of good repute" 

A Police Magistrate was required to administer the Oath of Allegiance , and on that certificate it notes that Aime Constant Verpillot's occupation was GATEMAKER. 

We have tried to read the name of the ship that brought him to Sydney from New Zealand, please help, as we do not recognise the name.

ADDED, we hope we are not  breaching any copyright rules, this image is a snip from the following link http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.asp?B=34229&I=1&SE=1

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 09 May 09 08:12 BST (UK)

The ship is : SS Maunganui


KHP

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Saturday 09 May 09 08:27 BST (UK)

Thanks KWP.

I have also put a thread on the New Zealand boards with info about Aime.

JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Saturday 09 May 09 08:32 BST (UK)

It seems that it was only a co-incidence, but

That ship that brought Aime to Sydney was also to take troops from NZ to Europe in WW1.

LEST WE FORGET

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 09 May 09 08:49 BST (UK)

Probably because the ship was still a liner carrying passengers in 1912 until war broke out and she was requisitioned by the New Zealand Government  and she was then converted to carry troops



Cheers
KHP

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 May 09 04:36 BST (UK)

Thanks to rootschat, and Althea at the NZ boards, here is some further information:

There is a marriage 1916 of
Name
VERPILLOT Berthe, Date 1916
Sex F Folio 2189 Spouse Arthur Norman MOREY


Berthe buried Picton Cem 1955 age 75

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 May 09 06:02 BST (UK)

His enlistment papers show his trade was scroll maker.  This would also reflect in his NSW occupation as Gate Maker,  the wrought iron scolls and fancy iron gates were all made individually by tradesmen.

Those enlistment papers also show he served an apprenticeship at Coventry, England, with Herberts Tool Manufacturers.  This seems to indicate the famous firm founded at Coventry by Sir Alfred Herbert who died in 1957.  Perhaps someone at rootschat will be visiting the museum that Sir Alfred established and be able to enquire further on Aime's apprenticeship, or other details.  We understand that apprenticeship bonds would have included family forebears information.

JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 May 09 11:25 BST (UK)

Several Bits More,

1901 England :  Charles E Verpillot aged 33 (1868) with his wife Bertha, both are Swiss Subjects, and are living at 54 Mount St Coventry, Warwickshire.   Charles Occupation?  Watch Dial Maker.  No-one named Aime in the household.  Charles' sister in law is in the household, Ruth Venne, aged 17.   

1914 Australia - NSW - Sydney:  Arrived 2 July 1914 at Sydney, Mrs Verpillot from London on the Orama  (no initials found yet)

1919 Australia - NSW - Sydney : Listed in the Sands Directory (and for earlier years too), E Verpillot, 15 Barnacliff Avenue, Bondi.

Still Searching.

JM

 

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 May 09 11:45 BST (UK)

Wondering if there would be any clues on Aime Constant Verpillot or siblings any education archives please. 

Many thanks,    

Quote from: spof on Friday 08 May 09 00:50 BST (UK)

NAME Verpillot, Aime Constant .......BORN La Jonchere Neufchatel Switzerland ......
 Educated at public school in Switzerland and Grammar School Coventry England
 

We have found his date of birth

Quote from: Just Moi on Saturday 09 May 09 05:30 BST (UK)

as 12 May 1891 .

And the name of the vessel (many thanks to KHP on the NZ boards)

Quote from: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 09 May 09 08:12 BST (UK)

The ship is : SS Maunganui
KHP

And the date he arrived in NSW

Quote from: Just Moi on Saturday 09 May 09 07:30 BST (UK)

from New Zealand on 17 September 1912.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: Auimfo on Monday 11 May 09 05:08 BST (UK)

Quote from: Just Moi on Sunday 10 May 09 04:36 BST (UK)

Thanks to rootschat, and Althea at the NZ boards, here is some further information:

There is a marriage 1916 of
Name
VERPILLOT Berthe, Date 1916
Sex F Folio 2189 Spouse Arthur Norman MOREY


Berthe buried Picton Cem 1955 age 75

Just checked the NZ records.

It appears that Arthur Norman MOREY was the one who died in 1955 and I've located the death for Berthe Marie MOREY in 1969, aged 74 (making her birth about 1895).

Perhaps they have been buried together and that's where the confusion in dates has occured.

Nevertheless, it's a fair bet that Berthe is most likely Aime's sister and the daughter of Charles and Berthe.   This MOREY link needs further examination.

Cheers,
Tim L.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 11 May 09 05:14 BST (UK)

They are both listed on Archways:

Berthe:

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=12038711

Arthur:

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=12038711

There is also a file for WW1 for Arthur as well.

Maybe need to chase up death notices for them.


Cheers
KHP

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Monday 11 May 09 05:29 BST (UK)

Re Arthur Morey's date of death,

I think this would be 29 June 1955, just done an elimination search adjusting dates for that 1955/23583 reference on line.

Presume I cannot do same for Berthe, as the 50 year rule would apply. 

I think Berthe Verpillot's marriage to Arthur Morey would be 22 Feb 1916 (1916/10960)

Have not noticed any children for Berthe.

Hope that helps you both Tim and KHP.

JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 11 May 09 05:34 BST (UK)

Great minds think alike ..... had just finishing doing a search.

I can't supply the death notice details as the death occurrred in the South Island, while I am in the North.

Cheers
KHP :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Monday 11 May 09 05:36 BST (UK)

Hi KHP

Must Agree!

I think this would be date of death for Berthe 1969/27948 - 27 Jan 1969,

JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 11 May 09 05:51 BST (UK)

Need a separate post on the NZ board asking if someone will do a lookup for the Probate for them.

Same with the death notice.



Cheers
KHP

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: Auimfo on Tuesday 12 May 09 08:55 BST (UK)

Have finally discovered the record of the family travelling from England to NZ.   It seems the spelling of their surname was either originally recorded incorrectly or the transcription was wrong.   Either way they travelled to NZ in 1908 and the surname was VERPELLOB.

Chas VERPELLOB (Charles Eugene - Father)
Bertha VERPELLOB (Berthe - Mother)
Anni VERPELLOB (Aime - Son)
Unknown VERPELLOB (recorded as female - Daughter)

This would almost certainly suggest that the unknown female is Aime's sister and most probably the Berthe who married Arthur Norman Morey.

Cheers,
Tim L.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Tuesday 12 May 09 08:58 BST (UK)

Thanks Tim,

Thank you everyone who has contributed to this thread, we will leave it to you Tim to follow up.

JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Auimfo on Wednesday 13 May 09 09:24 BST (UK)

Great news!!

A friend of mine in NZ made some enquiries and calls and we have now confirmed that Berte Morey (nee' Verpillot) was indeed the sister of Aime'.

Further to that Berthe's daughter is still alive and living in NZ and we have spoken with her.   She has more documents about him and his death plaque.

Thanks to everyone on this thread (and the other threads) for your wonderful input that has lead to solving this one.   Both Sandra and I considered Aime' as being possibly the most difficult to track down and to have a successful outcome is a great bonus for our research.

This thread can now be marked as 'absolutely' completed.  ;D

Cheers,
Tim L.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 09 09:29 BST (UK)

LEST WE FORGET

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 13 May 09 09:42 BST (UK)

LEST WE FORGET

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Billy Anderson on Wednesday 13 May 09 11:27 BST (UK)

Fantastic work.
LEST WE FORGET.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 13 May 09 12:40 BST (UK)

Well done all.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Gaille on Wednesday 13 May 09 12:46 BST (UK)

Quote from: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 13 May 09 12:40 BST (UK)

Well done all.

Ohh Excellent news!

I honestly thought this one would be one of the hardest to sort out due to the family moving around previously.

Lets hope we get such positive news on a lot of the others, its time they were 're-united' with their families even if only on paper.

Gaille

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: deeiluka on Wednesday 13 May 09 12:49 BST (UK)

Really good to see the Rootschat team work succeeding again!  :D  :D  :D


Dee

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: spof on Wednesday 13 May 09 23:38 BST (UK)

Quote from: deeiluka on Wednesday 13 May 09 12:49 BST (UK)

Really good to see the Rootschat team work succeeding again!  :D  :D  :D


Dee

I couldn't agree more. Well done everyone.

Glen

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Ruskie on Wednesday 13 May 09 23:51 BST (UK)

Amazing work - congratulations!  ;D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: tharkin56 on Tuesday 02 June 09 23:06 BST (UK)

I would be interested in a photograph of Aime as I am pul;ling together an articcle for the coventry evening telegraph . also i belive he may have emigrated with the minister of a local methodist /wesleyean church the reverend gawthorp.

26 men from coventry may be buried in fromelles

see wwwwarmemorialpark.co.uk/fromelles.pdf

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Tuesday 16 June 09 03:52 BST (UK)

Hi tharkin56,

Re your Rev Gawthorp - at replies 6 & 7 of this thread we have established that Aime Constant Verpillot arrived in Australia on 17 September 1912 from New Zealand per the SS Maunganui.   EDIT TO ADD disembarking at Sydney

But if your question relates to the emigration from England to NZ, then the year for that event would be 1908.  Sorry, we don't seem to have included the exact dates for that voyage or name of that ship.  If you can help with those details, please share.



JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 11 November 09 00:46 GMT (UK)

11 November 2009, 11:00 hours Australian Eastern Daylight Savings Time

I remember my own forebears, and this year I recall those AIF Fromelles missing, especially Aime Constant Verpillot, Swiss born of French parentage who gave up his nationality in Sydney NSW to become a British Subject and thus to complete his AIF enlistment.

Lest We Forget

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 11 November 09 01:41 GMT (UK)

Lest We Forget!

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 11 November 09 01:58 GMT (UK)

We won't forget ... especially today !

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 12 May 10 00:59 BST (UK)

Today, 12 May 2010,
I remember Aime Constant Verpillot.
He who was born 12 May 1891 and who fell at Fromelles;
He who was born in Switzerland;
He who gave up his nationality
to become a British Subject after enlisting in the
Australian Imperial Forces. 


Lest We Forget.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Monday 19 July 10 01:59 BST (UK)

FROMELLES (PHEASANT WOOD) MILITARY CEMETERY
Grave Ref. Plot II. D. 2.

VERPILLOT, Private, AIME CONSTANT, 4885, 53rd Bn., 2nd Company, Australian Infantry, A.I.F., Killed in action 19 July 1916. Age 25. Son of Charles Eugene and Berthe Verpillot, of 15, Barracluff Avenue, Bondi, New South Wales. Native of Neuchatel, Switzerland.

They went with songs to the battle, they were young,
Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow.
They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted,
They fell with their faces to the foe.
Laurence Binyon

Lest We Forget

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Monday 19 July 10 02:05 BST (UK)

Flintshire County Herald 22nd November 1929

LEST WE FORGET: They died that we might live

Sleep, brave warriors, in your bed of clay
Until Reveille sounds, on that Great Day,
When we shall meet again to part no more
With our Heavenly Father on that golden shore.

Eleven years have passed, yet still we don’t forget
To honour you, who helped to pay that debt
Of Sacrifice, so that we all should live
Unfettered, free, what more, then, could you give?

Fear not, your names will never be forgot,
Nor deeds of valour on some foreign spot,
You gave your life, your all, without regret,
God bless you, lads! We shan’t forget;

When duty called, you gave up home and love
To serve your King and Country and your King above,
You nobly did your duty, while others calmly slept,
You gave your all we don’t forget.

Tis well perhaps you died, not lived to see
Your comrades, some in dire poverty;
For work and promises they ended all in smoke,
And now they’re homeless, destitute, and broke.

Twas not for this you fought and nobly died,
And when in danger oft your foes defied;
The honour of your flag you bravely kept
You did your duty we must not forget.

Sleep on, old comrades, you are safe at last,
All your troubles over, and your dangers past;
Again we hope that some day we may meet you yet,
Farewell, dear comrades God does not forget.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Monday 25 April 11 01:18 BST (UK)

There was an additional sprig of Rosemary worn today.

Sydney Morning Herald 10 April 1917,  Casualities 286th List Issued.

LEST WE FORGET

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: evant on Monday 29 August 11 05:20 BST (UK)

Has anyone found a picture of Pvt. Verpillot as I need one for a school project? All help will be appreciated.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Monday 29 August 11 06:58 BST (UK)

Hi Evant,

Welcome to RChat.   

I do not have a photo of Pte Aime Constant Verpillot, and if you were to come across one I would be interested in having a copy if I may.

I feel sure that other RChatters who contributed to the threads about the Fromelles missing will be along shortly.

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Monday 29 August 11 09:09 BST (UK)

Can I ask the focus of the project?

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: evant on Monday 29 August 11 09:53 BST (UK)

To create a presentation on the life of an Australian soldier that was KIA in Fromelles.
I've got a heap of information and pictures, but I still need a picture of him.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Monday 29 August 11 09:54 BST (UK)

Sounds interesting ... is it an Australian school and why did you choose Verpillot?

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: evant on Tuesday 30 August 11 00:23 BST (UK)

Yes, it is an Australian school. There was no reason as to why I chose Verpillot, I just picked a random soldier off the list.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Tuesday 30 August 11 00:24 BST (UK)

Wonderful ... should be able to help ... when is it due to be submitted?

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: evant on Tuesday 30 August 11 00:27 BST (UK)

Thanks, it's due in four weeks.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Tuesday 30 August 11 00:28 BST (UK)

Wonderful ... thank you ... and good luck :)

Once it has been submitted I do hope you will share it with us.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Tuesday 30 August 11 00:29 BST (UK)

I'm doing this project with him. We had to find a soldier killed in the Battle of Fromelles, and there were certain parameters we had to meet. Private Aime Constant Verpillot met them all. We chose a few others, and did a quick search on all of them, and it came up with this site on Verpillot, so we stuck with him. This one site has given us a plethora of useful information, most of the details we need. Were just lacking in images.

It's a year wide project, and was started last year. Some of the videos made were presented at the Memorial Service. There is a website dedicated to this: http://smcchistory.ning.com/
It's basically a collection of information. It has information on some of the soldiers, and videos on a few of those.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 30 August 11 00:36 BST (UK)

Wonderful work Year 9ers!  ;D

I hope you have enjoyed working on your project. It's a lot more worthwhile and interesting than the projects my children did in Grade 9.

Best of luck with it.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Auimfo on Tuesday 30 August 11 03:17 BST (UK)

Evant and Sabet,

If you would like to contact me, I can send you a photograph of Aime Verpillot.

You'll find our research website at www.fromelles.net (it's the Descendant Database listed on your school network).   If you send me an email from there, I'll get back to you asap.

Tim L.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Tuesday 30 August 11 03:39 BST (UK)

Never mind that. My partner has already sent one. Thanks greatly for the help.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Tuesday 30 August 11 03:40 BST (UK)

Yes ... thats correct :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Auimfo on Tuesday 30 August 11 05:09 BST (UK)

Photo sent to Evant.

Good luck with the project!!

Cheers,
Tim L.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 01:58 BST (UK)

Could someone help me in discerning the place of residence on the sheet. Im having trouble reading his writing. So far all I can determine is the number 15, and Sydney.
All help appreciated.
Sabet

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 01:59 BST (UK)

Sabet ... email me at * and I can give you what you are after.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

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Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 02:48 BST (UK)

Does anyone know the full name of Lance Corporal E.A. Hubbard and J. Larkin?

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Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 02:58 BST (UK)

have you got their service numbers?

Sent you extra info on Verpillot

Bright Blessings
Sandra

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Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:01 BST (UK)

No, thats all the information i have on them, provided from the statement of Private A. McKell, earlier on in this topic. Does anyone know the names of those three (forgot McKell to begin with). Lance Coroporal E.A. Hubbard, Private A. McKell and L. Larkin.

Thanks for the info fedelmar. Definitely helped  :)

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Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:03 BST (UK)

Is this the one you are after?

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=6994958

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:04 BST (UK)

Thats one of them, thanks. But the link might help me find the others.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:06 BST (UK)

I assume that you are looking at the letters you mentioned before.  Cross check and see if they are in the same unit or if there is any other similar information.

I will see what I can find on the others for you ...

can you go back and get the original document that you were looking at and give me the reference so that I can see what I can find on these other lads for you.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:10 BST (UK)

This is all i have to work off, from the 2nd post on this topic:

Statement, 4828 Pte A. McKELL, B Company, 53rd Bn, 30 December 1918: '[He was] Of B. Coy. on 19th July at Fleurbaix during general action, was killed by bullet, don't know where hit. I saw his body on the field, in No Man's Land, close to L/Cpl. E.A. Hubbard, and J. LARKIN. We were taken P/W next day.'

I can probably find McKell, as 4828 might be his number...

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Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:12 BST (UK)

There are only 2 A McKell's listed.

One was under an alias:

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=8002046

The other was in the 7th Light Horse on discharge.

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1949051

Will be back with what I can find on Larkin shortly.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:14 BST (UK)

Wow your fast. The only requirement really was that they were also known to have died at Fromelles.

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Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:15 BST (UK)

I posted McKell's service file link for you ... check and see if the number is the same.

When searching the NAA if you type in the surname and the service number it will return the man's service file for you.

If you are just search the surname then use the date range 1914 - 1920.  Many soldiers came back 1920 and sometimes there files are outside of the war date parameters.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:17 BST (UK)

Comes from being a military research Sabat :)

Will see how I go with Larkin ... now you have told me what date he died then finding him will be much easier :)

S

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:19 BST (UK)

A. McKell was supposedly taken as a prisoner of war, but did not die at fromelle

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:23 BST (UK)

Sabat ... sometimes there were posted as missing believed taken POW ... later this may have been upgraded to wounded and missing ... later still it could have been upgraded again ... I will check the service file for you and get back to you. What is it that you are after about McKell?

There is only one L Larkin.  He did not die in the war but came back to Australia.  His name was Leslie Larkin 6284

Bright Blessings
Sandra

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Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:28 BST (UK)

Nixon aka McKell was a prisoner of war ... he was interred at Gefangenenlager Friedrichsfield Minden Germany and returned to Australia per HT (Hospital Transport) Nevasa 23.4.1919

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:33 BST (UK)

Thanks. So that just leaves Larkin :D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:36 BST (UK)

I posted Larkin just before ... follow the instructions I gave you previously on how to access his file.

Let me know how you get on :)

I would love to see a copy of your final paper on these boys :)

Bright Blessings
sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:41 BST (UK)

Sorry. it was a J. Larkin, not l. Larkin, i mistyped.  :-\

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:46 BST (UK)

Mmmmmm ... that is going to be a bit harder ...

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:50 BST (UK)

These are the J Larkin's ... perhaps pick the one from the same unit ... or an event that happened on the same day.  In other words find the common denominator and see if he is the Larkin you are looking for.

Bright Blessings
Sandra


3192   LARKIN, James Andrew   Peel Street, Railway Town, Broken Hill, New South Wales   50th Battalion, 8th Reinforcement

5164   LARKIN, James Henry   7 Pier Street, Perth, Western Australia   3rd Field Company Engineers, Reinforcement 13

4551   LARKIN, James Phillip   Adelaide, South Australia   32nd Battalion, 12th Reinforcement

5   LARKIN, John   Brisbane, Queensland   41st Battalion, Headquarters

6373   LARKIN, John   44 Cleveland Street, Darlington, Sydney, New South Wales   2nd Battalion, 20th Reinforcement

3659   LARKIN, John   Paddington, New South Wales   45th Battalion, 10th Reinforcement

4808   LARKIN, John   35 Belmore Street, Rozelle, New South Wales   1st Battalion, 15th Reinforcement

7023   LARKIN, John Arthur   White Cliffs, New South Wales   10th Battalion, 23rd Reinforcement

2446   LARKIN, John August   Paddington, New South Wales   45th Battalion, 5th Reinforcement

2343   LARKIN, John Augustine   c/o Mrs H Price, Goldsmith Street, Goulburn, New South Wales   35th Battalion, 4th Reinforcement

3160   LARKIN, John Herman   23 Gillies Street, Alfredton, Ballarat, Victoria   24th Battalion, 7th Reinforcement

2958   Larkin, John James   40 Garner's Avenue, Marrickville, New South Wales   1st Pioneer Battalion, 6th Reinforcement

20256   LARKIN, John James   138 Park Street, Brunswick West, Victoria   Field Artillery Brigade 8, Brigade Ammunition Column

1748   LARKIN, John James Robert   7 Kipling Street, South Richmond, Victoria   29th Battalion, 2nd Reinforcement

3850   LARKIN, John Leo   Clarence River, New South Wales   25th Battalion, 9th Reinforcement

17840   LARKIN, John Patrick   Queenscliff, Victoria   March 1917 Reinforcements

51001   LARKIN, John Roderick   Harden, New South Wales   New South Wales Reinforcement 1

2631   LARKIN, Johnsydney   Brisbane, Queensland   26th Battalion, 6th Reinforcement

2402   LARKIN, Joseph   King's Creek, Clifton, Queensland   25th Battalion, 5th Reinforcement

2495   LARKIN, Joseph   Knight Street, Shepparton, Victoria   2nd Field Company Engineers, Reinforcement 12

3096   LARKIN, Joseph John   Town Hall Hotel, Newtown, New South Wales   2nd Battalion, 10th Reinforcement

1634   LARKIN, Joseph Michael   Deepwater, New South Wales   Australian Remount Unit 2, Squadron 6

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 03:55 BST (UK)

you mean all those larkins died at fromelle. in reference to one of the larkins, 2958   Larkin, John James   40 Garner's Avenue, Marrickville, New South Wales   1st Pioneer Battalion, 6th Reinforcement, found another one, probably related. lived at 60 Garner's avenue.

ill cross reference your list with those who died at fromelles, then choose one.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 03:58 BST (UK)

 ;D  I was leaving you some work to do :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 04:00 BST (UK)

found one:
John Larkin, private 4808. Died at Fromelles. ;D
Thanks for the help. Thats everything we need for our script. now we need to make a video out of it :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 04:01 BST (UK)

its 4808 53rd Battalion :)

oopssss ... cross post!

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 04:03 BST (UK)

I would be honoured to see the final product Sabat ... and please come back and let us all know how it went :)

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Sunday 04 September 11 04:06 BST (UK)

We will, guarantee it. I'll post a link to it when were done :). just need to make an ending to the vid script, then make the vid. thanks for all the help to everyone! we got pretty much all our info from here, links to somewhere else from here or research leading following hints from here.  ;D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Sunday 04 September 11 04:08 BST (UK)

Pleased to help ... its you students doing projects like this that see that soldiers get to live forever.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Monday 05 September 11 03:02 BST (UK)

Another question  ???

Does anyone know why Aime got his medals? My teacher said I needed to find some info about his military career.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Monday 05 September 11 03:03 BST (UK)

Sabat ... I will put a synopsis together for you.

Give me about an hour :)

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Monday 05 September 11 03:15 BST (UK)

fedelmar you are BRILLIANT!!! wish i could thank you in person for all the help you've given us :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Monday 05 September 11 04:16 BST (UK)

All sent ... and its my pleasure :)

Bright Blessings
Sandra

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Monday 05 September 11 11:45 BST (UK)

Quote from: Sabet on Monday 05 September 11 03:15 BST (UK)

fedelmar you are BRILLIANT!!! wish i could thank you in person for all the help you've given us :)

Sabet, you are spot on, Fedelmar is brilliant.   I too would be delighted to see your finished report.  I think of Aime Constant Verpillot quite often, for he was born in Switzerland, of French origins, apprenticed in Coventry, England, migrated with his family to New Zealand and then lived at Bondi, NSW before enlisting.  Discovered he needed to give up his birthright to become a British Subject, to complete his enlistment.  And then he fell at Fromelles.

Your school project is helping to ensure that all THEIR NAMES LIVETH FOREVER MORE.

Lest We Forget.

JM

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Post by: Sabet on Tuesday 06 September 11 11:17 BST (UK)

We have finalised the script and are now in the process of transforming it into a movie  ;D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Tuesday 06 September 11 11:41 BST (UK)

I am probably as excited as you are :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Tuesday 06 September 11 12:07 BST (UK)

Me too, Me too ... I am in line, and in awe...

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 06 September 11 12:15 BST (UK)

And me.  ;)

The queue to see your film is growing Sabet ...  ;D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: deeiluka on Tuesday 06 September 11 12:57 BST (UK)

I'm watching too.......   


Dee   :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 07:37 BST (UK)

If anybody wants, I can post the script up now. The video will be up by the latest Wednesday next week. If it doesn't get put on the smcchistoryning i'll post it on youtube and give you a link :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 07 September 11 08:47 BST (UK)

Sneak Preview  ;D yes please, but only if it is not taking you away from spending time on preparing the video ... 

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:07 BST (UK)

Just need to put it in a post. Will take a few seconds.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:08 BST (UK)

Private Aime Constant Verpillot was born on May 12th, 1891, in La Jonchise, Neuchatel, Switzerland. His family were of French descendant and travelled first to England before going to New Zealand, from which he travelled to Australia.

He arrived in Sydney on the 17th of September, 1912, at the age of 20. His application for citizenship was granted in mid-September, 1915. He lived at 15 Barracluff Avenue, Bondi, and listed his job as a scroll, or gate maker. He was educated at a public school in Switzerland and a Grammar School in Coventry, England. He never married, but lived with his parents, Charles Eugene and Berthe. He was described as 5’ 9 1/2” and having brown hair, a fair complexion, light brown eyes and called himself a Methodist.

He was enlisted into the 1st Battalion, 15th reinforcement, on the 6th of September, 1915, at Warwick Farm, NSW. He embarked for the war on the 8th of March, 1916, aboard HMAT A15 ‘Star of England’. He trained at both Egypt and the Western Front before being taken on by the 53rd Battalion at Tel el Kebir on the 10th of April, 1916. Show ‘Royal George’ He embarked at Alexandria aboard the ‘Royal George’ to join the British Expeditionary Force on the 19th of June, 1916, and disembarked at Marseilles, France, on the 28th of June.

He was reported missing in action on 19th of July, 1916. A year later, his identification disk was received from the Germans, with no other messages other than that the soldier was deceased, and declared killed in action on that fateful day, on the 24th of February, 1917. Multiple enquires were put into finding the location of the grave of Aime, but none ever succeeded. On the 8th of August, 1920, a statement was issued declaring that it was no longer possible to locate his final resting place.

A statement by one of the other soldiers, a Private Arthur McKell, of his battalion was issued on the 30th of December 1918. “[He was] Of B. Company. On 19th of July at Fleurbaix during general action, was killed by bullet, don’t know where hit. I saw his body on the field, in No Man’s Land, close to Lance Corporal E.A. [Edward Arthur] Hubbard, and J. [John] Larkin. We were taken Prisoners of War next day.”

Private Aime Constant Verpillot received 2 medals throughout his military career, the British War Medal, and the Victory Medal. He received the British War Medal, on the 25th of November, 1921, to signify his service in WW1, and the Victory Medal on the 29th of the same month because the Allies were victorious. Aime Constant Verpillot served on the front line for only 23 days.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:10 BST (UK)

evan just message me if you want me to take it down


also does anyone know how to pronounce 'Neuchatel'? I was thinking new-sha-tell, but tell me if i'm wrong please.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:14 BST (UK)

Well done Sabet  :)

It is the same pronounciation as the cheese :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:16 BST (UK)

Yes, Well done Sabet and Evan

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:28 BST (UK)

theres a cheese???

i looked it up and was right in thinking it was new-chatel

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:38 BST (UK)

Yes, there's a cheese  ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neufch%C3%A2tel_(cheese)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 09:55 BST (UK)

aaahhhh but thats neufchatel, the town is neuchatel

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 07 September 11 11:53 BST (UK)

Ummmmm ... how sure are you :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 07 September 11 12:26 BST (UK)

about what?

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 07 September 11 12:27 BST (UK)

The spelling of the town ...

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Thursday 08 September 11 05:59 BST (UK)

this sure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuch%C3%A2tel

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Thursday 08 September 11 06:09 BST (UK)

You could of course phone up the Swiss Embassy or Consulate in Australia to confirm how they pronounce it. 

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Thursday 08 September 11 06:15 BST (UK)

eeewwwww I was wrong  :'(

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Thursday 08 September 11 06:31 BST (UK)

No, no, no, Yes .... but Fedelmar, you got the beginning and ending right !

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Post by: Sabet on Thursday 08 September 11 11:38 BST (UK)

i could also ask the swiss kid in my year :)

and fedelmar :P  ;D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Tuesday 13 September 11 00:45 BST (UK)

Damn, have to re-record parts of the movie... presentation will be delayed  :(. Will have it finished at least by thursday...

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Tuesday 13 September 11 02:36 BST (UK)

Things happen for a reason ... Maybe Aime didn't like that part :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Tuesday 13 September 11 03:07 BST (UK)

Aime Constant Verpillot signed the Secretary to Department of External Affair's receipt for his Certificate of Naturalisation on 15 Sept 1915.   He had arrived in Australia 17 September 1912.   Today is only the 13th of September, many decades later.

I agree with fedelmar, things happen for a reason ....  It is best to make sure your efforts conform to the requirements of your school's assignment.

Us here at RChat following your efforts are simply so delighted that you both are undertaking this project.  Our life experiences have taught us the virtue of patience, and you have the full support of us all.

EDIT TO ADD, Apologies to "Us All", I have expressed my own view without first consulting with "All of Us".

Cheers,  JM

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Post by: Sabet on Tuesday 13 September 11 08:49 BST (UK)

so politically correct majm :P

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Post by: evant on Tuesday 13 September 11 11:52 BST (UK)

I have the video done. Just need to export it and it's ready to be shared!  :)

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Post by: fedelmar on Tuesday 13 September 11 11:55 BST (UK)

Well done you lot :)

CONGRATULATIONS!

Aime will be pleased :)

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Post by: majm on Tuesday 13 September 11 11:57 BST (UK)

No rush .... when you are ready !

(Patience is a virtue, Patience is a virtue, Patience is a virtue)   :-X

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Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 14 September 11 08:12 BST (UK)

evant should post up a youtube link by this afternoon  ;D

thanks for all the help everyone!

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Post by: evant on Wednesday 14 September 11 08:48 BST (UK)

Link will be up in a few hours.  :)

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Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 14 September 11 09:16 BST (UK)

Getting excited now :)

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Wednesday 14 September 11 09:20 BST (UK)

Patience is a virtue,  Patience is a virtue,  Patience is a virtue  

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Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 14 September 11 09:23 BST (UK)

 :P

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Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:00 BST (UK)

come on evant

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Post by: majm on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:01 BST (UK)

Quote from: majm on Wednesday 14 September 11 09:20 BST (UK)

Patience is a virtue,  Patience is a virtue,  Patience is a virtue  

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:35 BST (UK)

lol. he'll put it up eventually. if he doesn't i'll get my teacher to send me a copy, or evant to do it and post tomorrow.

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Post by: majm on Wednesday 14 September 11 12:43 BST (UK)

Tomorrow is the anniversary of Aime Constant Verpillot becoming a British Subject.

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Post by: evant on Wednesday 14 September 11 13:09 BST (UK)

Alright, this post will be edited with the link shortly.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IALnBw95LWs

Enjoy. Read the description too.  :)

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Post by: majm on Wednesday 14 September 11 13:38 BST (UK)

I am humbled at the fine work you two have presented. 

I thank you both.

It is my understanding that the meaning for the name Aime is Loved One. 

Loved Ones can include Friends.

Good Friendships are Constant.

Lest We Forget.

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Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 14 September 11 22:08 BST (UK)

You both have done an excellent job.  CONGRATULATIONS ... and thank you!

I sent the link off to the man himself, Lambis.

Bright Blessings
Sandra

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Post by: Sabet on Wednesday 14 September 11 22:21 BST (UK)

Thanks for the compliments!


P.S. Who's Lambis?

P.P.S. And nice play on Words Majm.

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: fedelmar on Wednesday 14 September 11 22:32 BST (UK)

Who is Lambis?   :o

Lambis Englezos!!!   :D

Google his name!   ;D

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: evant on Thursday 15 September 11 07:04 BST (UK)

C'mon Sabet. We saw a video on him in class.   ;D He was the man who started the search for the lost diggers of Fromelles.

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Post by: Sabet on Thursday 15 September 11 07:45 BST (UK)

oh right that dude. yeh, i wasn't rally watching. short attention span when bored. must of missed his name

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Post by: fedelmar on Thursday 15 September 11 09:22 BST (UK)

Crikey moses ... 1000 lines for you ... I must pay attention in class!!!


 ::)

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Post by: majm on Thursday 15 September 11 09:29 BST (UK)

No No No,  Yes,   ::)
Alternating lines, totalling 1000 

I must pay attention in Class
Patience is a Virtue

 ;D  ;D  ;D

 

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Post by: deeiluka on Thursday 15 September 11 12:01 BST (UK)

I have to give the boys an A grade for their project.......excellent presentation.  :D

(Would have been an A+ but for Sabet's short attention span!   ;)    ;D  )


Dee   :)

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Post by: Sabet on Thursday 15 September 11 12:06 BST (UK)

 ::)

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Post by: majm on Friday 11 November 11 01:07 GMT (UK)

11 November 2011

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Saturday 12 May 12 17:11 BST (UK)

Their Names Liveth Forever More

Born 12 May 1891

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Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Saturday 10 November 12 23:18 GMT (UK)

11 November 2012

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Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Sunday 12 May 13 13:09 BST (UK)

Born 12 May 1891

Today in Australia is Mother's Day.

 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/74682154 Ballarat Courier  7 Sept 1916

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Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Sunday 10 November 13 23:58 GMT (UK)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11737-37097-74?cc=1609792&wc=M9WK-7TX:1020242940

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11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Tuesday 11 November 14 00:08 GMT (UK)

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11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. 

Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot COMPLETED with Thanks
Post by: majm on Tuesday 19 July 16 03:48 BST (UK)

19 July 1916

One hundred years

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Title: Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
Post by: majm on Sunday 12 May 19 04:13 BST (UK)

Quote from: Auimfo on Tuesday 12 May 09 08:55 BST (UK)

Have finally discovered the record of the family travelling from England to NZ.   It seems the spelling of their surname was either originally recorded incorrectly or the transcription was wrong.   Either way they travelled to NZ in 1908 and the surname was VERPELLOB.

Chas VERPELLOB (Charles Eugene - Father)
Bertha VERPELLOB (Berthe - Mother)
Anni VERPELLOB (Aime - Son)
Unknown VERPELLOB (recorded as female - Daughter)

This would almost certainly suggest that the unknown female is Aime's sister and most probably the Berthe who married Arthur Norman Morey.

Cheers,
Tim L.

Today is the tenth anniversary, it is 12 May 2019.  It is Mother's Day in New South Wales.  His date of birth is recorded as 12 May 1891.   

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