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Title: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: delaney54 on Monday 15 June 09 22:26 BST (UK)
Need help please .William Lancaster family on the 1851 census they lived in sconce Bingley West Yorkshire . i think there is a niece on it aged 4 can some one please tell me who she is . Any information will be some help . Thank you Anne .
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: amber39 on Monday 15 June 09 22:39 BST (UK)
1851 Census     Niece   Mary Ann Whaller   age 4  b.Bingley

Regards   Amber39
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: delaney54 on Monday 15 June 09 22:43 BST (UK)
 Thank you , Amber 39 .
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: delaney54 on Tuesday 11 July 23 22:25 BST (UK)
 If any one could help me please I am now trying to find the mother and father of the Mary Anne Whaller . I have no idea why I never asked for help when I was trying find who she was on the 1851 census .
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 11 July 23 22:37 BST (UK)
Most likely birth reg

WHALLEY, MARY  ANN
mtoher's maiden name      KING     
Q4 1847 KEIGHLEY UNION  Volume 23  Page 322
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 July 23 22:37 BST (UK)
www.freebmd.org.uk

Births Jun 1848   
Whaller    Mary Ann        Tadcaster    23   717

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

WHALLER, MARY  ANN      mothers maiden name AMES     
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in TADCASTER  Volume 23  Page 717
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 11 July 23 22:42 BST (UK)
Bingley came under the Keighley RD so she was probably more likely to be Whalley than Whaller

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/keighley.html

She is with parents in 1861 Piece 3222 Folio 26 Page 17

Marriage for parents

Dec qtr 1842   

KING    Elizabeth         Skipton    23   549    
WHALLEY    Richard         Skipton    23   549
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: delaney54 on Tuesday 11 July 23 23:35 BST (UK)
 Thank you no wonder i couldn't find her I was thinking her mother would be a Lancaster .

Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 12 July 23 08:15 BST (UK)
8 November 1842 - Kildwick

Richard Whalley, full age, Comber.  Father:  John, Weaver
Elizabeth King, full age.  Father:  Joseph, Comber

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Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 12 July 23 22:27 BST (UK)
There's a small fly in the ointment with that theory. Richard and Elizabeth Whalley have daughter Mary Ann with them in 1851. I wouldn't normally worry too much about that - people get enumerated more than once sometimes. However on both 1851 and 1861 their Mary Ann is said to be born in Steeton, nt Bingley.

Plus, there is another Mary Whalley b Bingley on 1861, once again living with an uncle in Bingley. This time it's Jonas Whalley, aged 22 33, with second niece Eliza b c1851

I also couldn't work out her connection to the Lancasters to make her William's niece. The Lancaster children have mmn Ellis or Ellice, so his wife isn't a sibling of Richard Whalley or Elizabeth King.

So I followed Jonas back to 1851

Joseph Ellis    68    Head
Jonas Woller    24    Grandson
Mary Woller   20    Granddaughter
Elizabeth Woller   19    Granddaughter
John Woller            2    Grand Daur Child
Eliza Woller   4 Mo    Grand Daur Child

I think Elizabeth Lancaster (nee Ellis) might be great aunt of Mary Ann

In 1841 Jonas and his two sisters (listed as Wealer) are again with grandfather Joseph Ellis at Faweather

This is an interesting marriage

John Whalley of Naple-ing
Ann Ellis of Faweather
Marriage Date    19 Nov 1827 Bingley, All Saints,
Witness William Lancaster
Title: Re: 1851 William Lancaster family.
Post by: delaney54 on Sunday 22 October 23 23:19 BST (UK)
 Sorry a bit late in answering I have only just seen your reply . I think you could be right with  Elizabeth Lancaster (nee Ellis) might be the  great aunt of Mary Ann .Thank you