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Title: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: tobin on Saturday 27 June 09 15:06 BST (UK)
hi  ;D

im looking for information on the speechley family of yaxley, my 4 x gt grandfather is a william speechley in the census he is living in whittlesey,cambridgeshire with wife ann and son william working as a farm labourer but states his birthplace as yaxley,the census would date him to being born around 1802,he married his wife a widow by the name of ann crawthorne from ramsey on 26th november 1832 at ramsey.
but i cant find any birth/christening for a william speechley in yaxley around this time.there is another william born around the same time in yaxley but hes been proven not to be the william in our speechley tree.
can anyone offer advice? many thanks for looking
patsy
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 27 June 09 16:26 BST (UK)
Are the parents of the William NOT YOURS yours Oswald and Susannah?

Trish
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: tobin on Saturday 27 June 09 16:47 BST (UK)
hi the other william in yaxley who we found that isnt ours is a ralph and sarah speechley,this william was born 1800 in yaxley if i remember the names correctly i havent heard of the two names you have mentioned

patsy
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 27 June 09 16:59 BST (UK)
Hi :)

Just a possibility, not in Yaxley but right time-frame. Submitted record IGI

Wm Speechley
8 March 1801, Offord Cluny, Huntingdon
Parents Oswald and Susannah

Trish
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Saturday 27 June 09 17:18 BST (UK)
Have you been through Yaxley parish register?

David
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: tobin on Saturday 27 June 09 18:49 BST (UK)
hi trish thanks for that i will look into all possibilities and not yet i havent bedfordshire boy,its just finding the chance to get into huntingdon to access the records.i know my uncle had someone trace the family tree a couple of years back and he came to a standstill at the same place.
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Saturday 27 June 09 20:24 BST (UK)
Yaxley parish register has been filmed by the LDS, unlike many Hunts parishes, so is available to order and view at your nearest LDS Family History Centre if that's closer than Huntingdon
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: tobin on Saturday 27 June 09 21:49 BST (UK)
thankyou for that information..i am lds myself and will have to check with the head of family history if we have the yaxley film,if not to order it in for me.thanks very much for that  ;D
Title: Rogers of Potton
Post by: andrewfr on Wednesday 08 July 09 13:35 BST (UK)
Dear David,

Hope you don't mind my jumping into the middle of your chat. I see from the net that you have done some research on the Rogers of Bedfordshire. I am descended from one John Rogers who (I believe) married an Elizabeth White in Potton in 1778. He may have been from Campton (B. 1753) but not confirmed. We have a copy of his will dated 1828. You can see my tree on ancestry (Rogers032009) and at http://andrewfr.tribalpages.com/ (password ailsa). I am in Bangkok, so depend on the net for much of my research.

There was a John Rogers, vicar of Potton in the 1500's, but no idea as yet if he was related.

Any further information or leads you may have on earlier history of this family would be most welcome.

If it is useful I can send you a copy of the will by email.

Best regards,

Andrew
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Saturday 11 July 09 07:36 BST (UK)
Hi Andrew

Welcome to Rootschat!

We have exchanged messages about John Rogers on another board, where I thought we'd decided that John was unlikely to have been from Campton. Weren't they married in Croydon Cambs, rather than Potton, which is where they baptised their children?

I'm on holiday at the moment but will be home tomorrow, where I'll have a think, but I have a feeling that I'd gone as far as I could go - did Croydon parish register add anything?

David
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: andrewfr on Saturday 11 July 09 11:47 BST (UK)
Dear David,

I don't remember a previous contact. Could have been my cousin Richard, or his son - also Andrew Rogers.

Any ideas would be most welcome. So far we have not been able to find old John's parents or place of birth...

Best regards,

Andrew (the Bangkok one!)
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Sunday 12 July 09 10:48 BST (UK)
Hi Andrew

There was an andrewfr from Bangkok on http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28072&page=2 which I assumed was you.  That thread sums up what we found about the Campton John Rogers, but all the indications were that your John Rogers was probably from Cambs

Leaving for the airport in an hour. I'll have another look when I get home

David
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Tuesday 14 July 09 17:55 BST (UK)
For the sake of folks looking for Rogers in the future I'll summarise what I've found

Andrew's John 1755-1829 was probably from Bourn, Cambs. His father, also John Rogers, had 19 children by two wives, in Bourn Cambs, and Biggleswade and Southill, Beds. The family looks something like this:

I. John ROGERS was born circa 1733. He married Rachel NEWNHAM or NEWMAN on 22 Jul 1754 at Bourn, Cambs. He married Elizabeth DARLOW, daughter of Thomas DARLOW and Susannah (--?--), on 20 Sep 1773 at Bourn, Cambs. He appeared on the census of 1801 at Broom, Southill, Beds. He died in Feb 1806 at Bourn, Cambs. He was buried on 24 Feb 1806 at Bourn, Cambs, age 73.

A. John ROGERS was christened on 17 Aug 1755 at Bourn, Cambs. He married Elizabeth WHITE on 9 Nov 1778 at Croydon cum Clapton, Cambs. He married Jane CRAWLEY on 30 Oct 1794 at Potton, Beds. In his will dated 31 May 1828 bequests were made to his grandchildren John, Elizabeth, and Jane Rogers, children of his late son James; his son John Rogers of Cambridge; to Jemima Rogers of Baldock, the widow of his late son William; to Mary Rogers, now living with him; his sister Ann Page, widow; his mother in law (=step mother) Elizabeth Rogers, widow. Executors son John and grandson John. He died in Dec 1829 at Potton,
Beds. He was buried on 13 Dec 1829 at Potton, Beds, age 75.

1. William ROGERS was christened on 28 Aug 1779 at Potton, Beds. He married Jemima BARBER on 2 Mar 1802 at Potton, Beds. He died before May 1828.

2. Catharine ROGERS was christened on 21 Mar 1781 at Potton, Beds. She died in Apr 1805 at Potton, Beds. She, age 24, was buried on 25 Apr 1805 at Potton, Beds.

3. John ROGERS was christened on 11 Jun 1783 at Potton, Beds. He
married Ann THOMPSON on 31 Jan 1803 at St Edward, Cambridge.

4. Elizabeth ROGERS was christened on 5 Apr 1785 at Potton, Beds.
She died in Dec 1786 at Potton, Beds. She, infant, was buried on 28 Dec 1786 at Potton, Beds.

5. James ROGERS was christened on 11 Feb 1788 at Potton, Beds. He married Mary MEEKS on 15 Jun 1812 at Potton, Beds. He died in Jul 1819 at Potton, Beds. He, age 31, was buried on 25 Jul 1819 at Potton, Beds.

6. Elizabeth ROGERS was christened on 14 Jun 1790 at Potton, Beds. She died in Jul 1802 at Potton, Beds. She, age 13, was buried on 14 Jul 1802 at Potton, Beds.

7. Thomas ROGERS was christened on 2 Jun 1792 at Potton, Beds. He died in Apr 1802 at Potton, Beds. He, age 10, was buried on 16 Apr 1802 at Potton, Beds.

B. Robert ROGERS was christened on 29 Aug 1756 at Bourn, Cambs. He died in Jun 1766 at Kingston, Cambs. He was buried on 18 Jun 1766 at Bourn, Cambs.

C. Newman ROGERS was christened on 14 May 1758 at Bourn, Cambs. He died in Mar 1767 at Kingston, Cambs. He was buried on 21 Mar 1767 at Bourn, Cambs.

D. Sarah ROGERS was christened on 8 Jun 1760 at Bourn, Cambs. She died in Nov 1761 at Bourn, Cambs. She was buried on 15 Nov 1761 at Bourn, Cambs.

E. Alice ROGERS was christened on 16 May 1762 at Bourn, Cambs. She was buried on 30 Nov 1775 at Bourn, Cambs.

F. Gregory ROGERS was christened on 8 Jan 1764 at Bourn, Cambs.


G. Rachel ROGERS was born on 22 Dec 1765 at Bourn, Cambs.
H. Sarah ROGERS was christened on 20 Mar 1768 at Kingston, Cambs.

I. Ann ROGERS was christened on 30 Apr 1770 at Kingston, Cambs.

J. Elizabeth ROGERS. She was christened on 28 Dec 1777 at Bourn,
Cambs. She married Joseph CHEW on 31 Jul 1797 at Southill, Beds. She married William SAYWELL on 30 Dec 1818 at Bourn, Cambs.

  1. Joseph CHEW was christened on 21 Jul 1799 at Southill,  
  Beds.   He married Susannah TRIPLOW on 12 Oct 1818 at  
  Bassingbourn, Cambs.

  2. Elizabeth CHEW was christened on 21 Jul 1799 at Southill

  3. John CHEW was born on 7 Jul 1805 at Bourn, Cambs.
  Illegitimate

  4. Catherine CHEW was christened on 14 May 1807 at Bourn,
  Cambs. Illeg.

  5. William CHEW was also known as SAYWELL. He was christened
  on 12 Jul 1812 at Bourn, Cambs. Illegitimate

  6. Jane CHEW was christened on 12 Jun 1814 at Bourn, Cambs.
  Illegitimate

  7. Rachel SAYWELL was born in 1821 at Bourn, Cambs. She
  married David CHAPMAN on 25 Dec 1847 at Bourn, Cambs.

Continued
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Tuesday 14 July 09 17:59 BST (UK)
continued..

K. Thomas ROGERS was christened on 25 Jul 1779 at Biggleswade, Beds. He married Martha SARL, daughter of Margaret SARL, on 15 May 1798. He died in Mar 1805 at Southill, Beds. He was buried on 20 Mar 1805 at Southill, Beds.

  1. Susanna ROGERS was born in 1798. She died in Aug 1798.
  She was buried on 7 Aug 1798 at Southill, Beds.

  2. John ROGERS married Elizabeth (--?--). He was christened on 3
  Nov 1799 at Southill, Beds.

  3. Samuel ROGERS was christened on 30 Nov 1800 at Southill.

  4. Jane ROGERS was christened on 4 Sep 1803 at Southill, Beds.

  5. Mary ROGERS was christened on 2 Jan 1805 at Southill

L. Susan ROGERS was christened on 31 Aug 1781 at Biggleswade, Beds.

M. Robert ROGERS was born on 17 Mar 1785 at Biggleswade, Beds. He married Etty ALLEN on 20 Jan 1812 at Dry Drayton, Cambs. Removal order from St. Clement, Cambridge: Robert Rogers to Longstanton, All Saints 3 March 1824. He died in Feb 1827 at Long Stanton, Cambs. He was buried on 14 Feb 1827 at Bourn, Cambs.

  1. George ROGERS was christened on 5 Jul 1812 at Dry Drayton,
  Cambs.

  2. Rebecca ROGERS was christened on 13 May 1815 at
  Gamlingay, Cambs.

N. John Andrew ROGERS was christened on 19 Feb 1787 at Southill, Beds. He married Mary CHAPMAN on 1 Mar 1808 at Dry Drayton, Cambs.

  1. Francis Chapman ROGERS was christened on 8 May 1808 at
  Dry Drayton, Cambs.

  2. Samuel ROGERS was christened on 21 Apr 1811 at Dry
  Drayton, Cambs.

  3. Maria ROGERS was christened on 3 Jul 1814 at Dry Drayton.

  4. Caroline ROGERS was christened on 14 Apr 1816 at Dry
  Drayton, Cambs.

  5. William ROGERS was christened on 10 Jan 1819 at Dry
  Drayton, Cambs.

  6. Jane ROGERS was christened on 13 Jan 1822 at Dry Drayton.

  7. Rachel ROGERS was christened on 6 Feb 1825 at Dry Drayton.

  8. Elizabeth ROGERS was christened on 6 Feb 1825 at Dry   
  Drayton, Cambs. She was buried in 1830 at Dry Drayton, Cambs.

  9. Mary ROGERS was born on 1 Jul 1827 at Dry Drayton, Cambs.
  She died in 1830 at Dry Drayton, Cambs.

O. Samuel ROGERS was christened on 8 Feb 1789 at Southill, Beds. He died in Sep 1792 at Southill, Beds. He was buried on 24 Sep 1792 at Southill, Beds.

P. William ROGERS was christened on 16 Oct 1791 at Southill, Beds. He served in the 7th Foot regiment, the Royal Fusiliers. He served in the Peninsular War, New Orleans, France and Ireland. He married Mary Ann GORDON circa 1837, possibly in the Channel Islands.

  1. Julia Ann ROGERS was born in 1838 at Cambridge.

  2. Arthur Samuel ROGERS was born in 1846 at Cambridge.

  3. William ROGERS was born in 1850 at Cambridge.

  4. Mary Ann ROGERS was born in 1852 at Cambridge.

Q. Catherine ROGERS. She was born in 1793 at Broom, Southill, Beds. She married David BOWD alias DARLOW, son of John DARLOW and Mercy BOWD née PATMAN, on 6 Jul 1813 at Bourn, Cambs. She was buried on 9 Jan 1861 at Bourn, Cambs.

  1. Mercy DARLOW was christened on 20 Jul 1828 at Bourn.

R. Lydia ROGERS was christened on 28 Jan 1795 at Southill, Beds. She died in Jan 1795 at Southill, Beds. She was buried on 1 Feb 1795 at Southill, Beds.

S. Jane ROGERS was christened on 26 Nov 1796 at Southill, Beds.

David
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: Fatman on Monday 19 July 10 14:28 BST (UK)
hi  ;D

im looking for information on the speechley family of yaxley, my 4 x gt grandfather is a william speechley in the census he is living in whittlesey,cambridgeshire with wife ann and son william working as a farm labourer but states his birthplace as yaxley,the census would date him to being born around 1802,he married his wife a widow by the name of ann crawthorne from ramsey on 26th november 1832 at ramsey.
but i cant find any birth/christening for a william speechley in yaxley around this time.there is another william born around the same time in yaxley but hes been proven not to be the william in our speechley tree.
can anyone offer advice? many thanks for looking
patsy

Are you still looking for speechley information? I have quite a bit? Maybe we could chat and compare?
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: magslote on Tuesday 20 July 10 09:15 BST (UK)
Hello Patsy,
bapy at Yaxley.
1800 William  son John/Mary Speechley.
1800 William son Phillip/Mary.
Margaret.
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: warncoort on Saturday 26 March 11 02:49 GMT (UK)
Fatman,
Hope you are still following this line,i'm looking for marriage of George to Lucy Coles around 1830 in Yaxley.I have traced this line to Australia and the lack of online data has slowed me considerably.
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: magslote on Saturday 26 March 11 09:31 GMT (UK)
Hello found in Yaxley  George Speechley=Sarah Dent in 1834.
Margaret.
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Saturday 26 March 11 13:58 GMT (UK)
There is no marriage in Hunts of George Speechley and Lucy Coles on the Hunts Marriage Index

What's the evidence for the marriage?
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: warncoort on Sunday 27 March 11 02:58 BST (UK)
I have no evidence of the marriage,their daughter Judith is the link to my family through marriage to William Woods in 1854
Title: Re: speechley family of yaxley
Post by: warncoort on Sunday 27 March 11 03:57 BST (UK)
I have gone back over this again;now appears Geo and Lucy didn't marry but had one child,Judith, before Lucy dies.Geo then marries Sarah Dent in 1834 and has 6 more children.
1841 and 51 census reflect this, then Judith reverts to her mothers maiden name.
Thanks all.