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Looking for anyone who has Wilson ancestry living in Co. Cavan. All I know is that the Wilson's came from Co. Longford in the 1600's to settle in Co. Cavan...probably the area close to the Louth border. We have given names of John, William, Thomas. In the 1830's or so, a William Wilson and his large family of 7 sons and 5 daughters left for Hope, Ontario, Canada (children's names Anne Jane married Stewart Hooey, Matilda, John, Mary, William, Mathew, David, Thomas, Henry, Charles, Joseph, Seraph and Essy).
Our Wilson's held their farming land in the SE section of Co. Cavan under Sir William Young. Hopefully someone has information to help me in my search. Thanks!
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Hi,
I too am looking for Wilsons in the Co Cavan area, my grandfather Charles Haughton Wilson b 1883 was a farmer in Killeshandra, although I think he came from Cessagh/Corradarren - I think!
I have other postings on the Cavan board asking for information on the Wilson family if you want to take a look to see if there is any common information.
I was sent a copy of an old obituary newspaper cutting which isn't dated but it mentions several Wilsons on it. I will have to dig it out. Any information that you can share would be really useful.
Thanks
Margaret
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This is a copy of an obituary from a newspaper - unfortunately I do not have a date for this obituary-
MR. WILLIAM WILSON, GULLADUFF. CO. LEITRIM.
On Saturday, the 13th inst., one of the oldest inhabitants of Gulladuff passed away in the person of Mr. William Wilson, a member of an old and respected family, who departed this life at the ripe age of 88. Mr. Wilson was a member of a family long settled in and respected in the district, and despite his advanced age he was able to move about until a comparatively recent date. He was a member of Corlespratten Methodist Church, and during his last illness he was attended by the Rev. A.A. Crawford, the respected minister of the Killeshandra circuit. The funeral on Monday, the 15th inst., to Carrigallen was a large and representative one, the chief mourners being John, Richard, and Robert Wilson (sons), John, Charles, and Richard Wilson (brothers), John, Charles, William (2) and Charles Wilson (Coromahon) (nephews), Mrs. Wilson (neice) &c. The Rev. A.A. Crawford conducted service at the house, and subsequently at the grave, where he delivered a most impressive address from the text “Oh, death where is thy sting?”
The obituary refers to Charles Wilson (Coromahon) a nephew who attended the funeral, this is my grandfather - if anyone can help with any information I would be very grateful.
Thanks
Margaret
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Margaret, I am still trying to unravel my Wilson's in county Cavan. All I know is that the Wilson families held farmland under Sir John Young in the south east section of county Cavan in the late 1700's to mid 1800's. Common given names being John, William, Robert and Thomas.
I do know that William Wilson, born about 1792 and uncle to my John Wilson, left for Ontario Canada (about 1845 to 1850) with his large family of children and his wife being Esther Coote or Cooteville, Co. Cavan. The oldest daughter Anne Jane married Stewart Hooey of Cavan. Other children named Matilda, John, Mary, William, Mathew, David, Thomas, Henry, Charles, Joseph, Sarah and Essy or Esther. The last few children were born in Ontario, Canada. The father and mother were still alive in 1860.
Also of interest are letters written between Anne Anderson...her married name and living in Kingscourt and Mt. Ida Dromore, County Down and our John Wilson living in Portland, Oregon USA. They were cousins but I don't know if she was a Wilson prior to marriage. Her daughter Jenny married a John Joseph Burnett. Also mentioned in one letter was the death of Rev. Winning and mentioned him as advisor and benefactor of all who needed his counsel and assistance.
Also of interest and maybe some help....A letter to my John Wilson from his cousin Matilda in Ontario, Canada tells of the Wilson history. Perhaps this will ring true with what you have knowledge of: "As to our origin, we are of Scottish descent and this is what my father heard from his father. When they came from Scotland they settled in County Longford. His Grandfather had three children all of which were drowned by falling into a well in his garden, after which he came to County Cavan and purchased a large tract of country, determined to leave the place of so much disaster and he was the first of that family that came to Co. Cavan and his name was John Wilson".
Sometime in the 1840's Sir William Young (Lord Lisgar) and son of Sir John Young mentioned above, built a fine stone schoolhouse in Bailieboro and my John Wilson went there for his education along with siblings, Robert, Thomas, William and Maria Jane. Birth years were 1826,1828, 1830, 1832 and 1837 respectively. Mother to these Wilson children was Joice or Jocelyn Wynne of Tubberdoney, Co. Louth.
Margaret, I hope something in this post will connect. Let me know what more you have. Thanks, Marilyn
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Hi Marilyn,
Thanks for your reply.
I am not making much headway on my Wilsons, the obituary I posted on this thread mentions John Wilson (possibly my great grandfather) and Charles (Coromahon) Wilson who was my grandfather.
I have recently been looking at the free 1901 Census for Ireland, there was a link posted on Rootschat saying that this site is available:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
I have managed to find my great grandfather John Wilson who was 60 on the census and and his wife Mary Jane (nee Haughton) who was 50 ,my grandfather Charles Haughton Wilson aged 26 living in Loughnafin/Rockfield in Co Cavan. I have been told that John Wilson may have originally have come from Co Leitrum, but I am not sure about this. The family were farmers and also had a corn mill.
I don't know if there is any connection with your Wilsons.
Thanks
Margaret
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I have a William A Wilson as a gggrandfather who died in Belknap Township, Presque Isle County, Mich on 7 Jan 1908; his day of birth was given as 9 Mar 1839 (may have been 1838). His death certificate shows his parents as William Wilson and Ester Coutts. He was born in ireland and his father and mothers birthplace are listed as Scotland.
I also have a Matthew Wilson that was born on 1 Oct 1830 in Ireland and his parents are given as Wm Wilson and Ester Coot. His date of death is 29 August 1911. In the 1900 US census Matthew is shown as a brother to William residing together in Belknap Township, Presque Isle, Michigan. The information for Matthew was provided by Mrs. Bertha Heslip.
Matthew Heslip married a Serenna Albertha Wilson on 02 Sept 1884 in Belknap Twp, Presque Isle, Michigan. Her parents were William A Wilson and Matilda Wilson. Matthew deceased in 1927 and Bertha years latter. I have little information of the Heslip line and am looking for more.
According to the death certificate of Charles James Wilson (DOB April 1878 in Canada; DOD 24 Nov 1902 in Michigan) his parents were Willaim A Wilson(Ireland) and Matilda Rankins (Canada) not sure about spelling of last name).
My grandmother was Rilla Perl Heslip who deceased in a train bus accident (20 Dec 1927) shortly after the birth of my father Byron George Howell .
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Hi and thank you for the information on the Wilson's. This is the right family, however, William and Esther Coots Wilson were both born in Cavan Co. Ireland. I am not at home where my records are, but when I return I will email you again. The best you can, give me your descent down to William and Esther. I will try to fill in the pieces when I return home. Thanks, Marilyn
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I have double Wilson ancestors from County Cavan. John Wilson the son of William Wilson and Mary Elizabeth Long of County Cavan Ireland, married Eliza Wilson the daughter of James Wilson and (probably?) Jane Ney, of County Cavan Ireland, in Cartwright or Darlington Township Ontario Canada, about 1853? These Wilsons from County Cavan probably lived on the Hodson, Skeagh Estate, (probably Lisdonan, Cappy, or Drumbar Townlands. The Wilsons farmed in Cartwright and Tay Townships in Ontario, Canada
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Sure wish I could connect to one of these families. What part of Cavan County Ireland were your families from? Thanks, Marilyn
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My Wilsons (both families) lived in Knockbride Parish, Clankee Barony and probably the townlands of Lisdonan Cappy and Drumbar (near Bailieborough). Some of the William Wilson and Mary (Long) Wilson family remained in Ireland, John and Jane went to Canada and Ann, Eliza, And William remained in Ireland. Ann and William had children who went to New Zealand and Australia.
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Hi to all the Wilson descendants,
I am also attached to the Wilson families of County Cavan in Ireland. On the various Irish sites and also on the films of the BDM registers there are several Wilson/Middleton marriages but I haven't untangled how yet.
My grandfather was John James Wilson Hogg Middleton. I remember him saying the Wilson & the Hogg were family names and that is why he had them attached to his name. He was born in Corraghy, Shercock, Co Cavan 1878. The Birhts etc all registered in Bailieborough.
The connection to Ontario is very close to County Cavan as John Hu(e)ston of County Cavan was sent to Ontario to start settlements there from Ireland and one of his addresses was in Cavan, Ontario. He left Ireland about 1810 with his wife Martha (nee Middleton). Other names who are all intermarried who went to Ontario from 1810 to 1880s were Argues, Mahoods, Bradleys. Several pieces of his inward correspondence are in the Trent University Archives. Have alook in case there are some from the Wilson family.
Sir John Young was also the landlord for the Middletons land. They were on the townland of Corraghy. The names in my grandfathers family of Middleton were Roberts, Johns, James, Williams, Thomases, Janes, Anns, Marthas, and they go through both the Middletons and the Wilsons on my lot for several generations.
Several of the family names are on the Griffiths Valuation Records. It is worth getting even just a one month subscription to the Origins genealogy website for Ireland.
Another valuable site I have found which is free to search is http://www.irelandoldnews.com/ On this you can click a county or just put in a name. I have found a marriage notice for William Middleton's (bn circa 1780) daughter Ann in 1859 just yesterday. You do have to take quite a bit of time scrolling and the names you want aren't highlighted but are in bold although a few have snuck through. I found in 1844 where William Middleton was on a voters list but had to scroll through several times before I finally found the name.
Regards, Patricia
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Grriifits valuations, including maps are now free on:
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
PM
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Hi, My Ancestors also come from Cavan. Margaret Brogan married Robert Wilson and resided in abbey street Co Cavan. They are listed on the 1901 and 1911 census, and living in Abbey Street on both census records. On Roberts Marraige Certificate, his Father is listed as Patt Wilson. I would dealry love to know any information on my GG Grandfathers family. Any info would be a great help, as there is not a lot known about the family. My grandmothers Mother Mary Ellen McInerney Nee Wilson, died in 1924 and all of the family were split up.
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Frances Wilson (married William Nelson in 1824) ws my Gr Gr Gr Gr Grandmother.
Her daughter Sarah May Nelson emmigrated to Australia in 1848 and had 9 children (image attached from NSW Births/Deaths/Marriges registry search results).
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The nine children of Richard and Sarah Gore were named Richard, Teresa, Sarah E, William, Ralph, Elenor, Mary J, Martha A and Wilhelmina.
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I see you are still using rootchat. I don't know if you recall my last post to you, but I would like information about William Wilson and Esther Coote from Cavan. If you would like to contact me directly my e-mail is *
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This is a copy of an obituary from a newspaper - unfortunately I do not have a date for this obituary-
MR. WILLIAM WILSON, GULLADUFF. CO. LEITRIM.
The funeral on Monday, the 15th inst., to Carrigallen was a large and representative one, the chief mourners being John, Richard, and Robert Wilson (sons), John, Charles, and Richard Wilson (brothers), John, Charles, William (2) and Charles Wilson (Coromahon) (nephews), Mrs. Wilson (neice) &c. The Rev. A.A. Crawford conducted service at the house, and subsequently at the grave, where he delivered a most impressive address from the text “Oh, death where is thy sting?”
The obituary refers to Charles Wilson (Coromahon) a nephew who attended the funeral, this is my grandfather - if anyone can help with any information I would be very grateful.
Thanks
Margaret
In order to source this newspaper article, please supply all of the information below in an email to localstudies'at'leitrimcoco.ie
Bib #: 245437
LDR: 00000nam 22000255 4500
1000: $a newsNM
900: $a Leitrim Advertiser
902: $a 23 September 1886
903: $a Mentioned in Article - Re: tail Cut off a Cow in his posession - (Owner William Wilson)
904: 0 $a WILSON ROBERT BROTHER OF WILLIAM
907: $a 2 c4
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Bib #: 245424
LDR: 00000nam 22000255 4500
1000: $a newsNM
900: $a Leitrim Advertiser
902: $a 04 September 1884
903: $a At Carrigallen Petty Sessions William Wilson Jun v William Wilson Senior Re: trepass
904: 0 $a WILSON ROBERT
907: $a 3 c6
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Hi Dave,
I have just spotted this reply by accident, I still seem to be having problems with notifications even though they are set for this thread. There have been several other additions to this posting that I have been adding information too.
Will try and send an email to get more info on this newspaper article.
Thanks again
Margaret
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I also have relatives from Cavaan County Ireland. John Wilson was born in 1793, Cavan Ireland and married Jane Ann Ferguson (1796-1873). They settled in Stanley's Corners, Ontario. He died 10 April 1861. He had a son Archibald (1827-29 November 1899) born in Stanley's Corners and died in Goulbourn, Ontario. He married Mary Ann Argue 28 Dec 1847. They had issue: James (1848), Thomas Westly (1850), John (1852) ann Jane (1854), Mary Elizabeth (1861), William George (1864-1941) and Archibald (1868-1941).
They are all buried in Stittsville, Ontario.
Unfortunately, this is as far back as I have been able to go - any assistance would be a huge help.
Scott
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My family are Wilson and we are from Cavan
My gggrandfather moved to Cavan from Scotland around 1850 I believe and he was William Wilson
My grandfather was George Henry Wilson and died in a bicycle accident 1940 (60)
They all lived in the Cappy/Corleck area near Knockbride, Bailiebourgh
My Uncles (4) and grandmother all moved up to Belfast along with my dad in about 1948
Uncle Joe moved to Canada in around 1950 living near Toronto when we visited in 1980
My father Thomas Alfred Wilson died in 2010 and we buried him alongside his father in Cavan
We still have family in the area although I do not get there too often, cousins mainly
Rest of my (direct) family are in Belfast area mainly
My dad and my Uncle Willie Wilson were doing quite some genealogy and now my cousin has taken up the mantle, although I should not leave him doing it alone!
Not sure if that is interesting to anyone but the thread came up on a google search I fancied replying
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I too am researching Wilson ancestors in Ireland. My people came to Canada from Knockbride Parish and primarily from the townlands of Lisdonan, Cappy, and Drumbar. I would like to exchange information with you or your cousin.
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Hi,
How strange that a reply should appear on this thread as my Mum's ashes were scattered today at a local crematorium, she passed away on May 1st, she was called May. There has been nothing really applicable to my Mum's family over the last few years.
My Mum's father owned a corn mill near Killeshandra. Her father was Charles Haughton Wilson and her mother was Eliza Morrison. Charles Haughton Wilson was the son of John Wilson and Mary Jane Haughton.
If anyone has any information I would love to hear from you.
Thanks
Margaret
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In my research I have two links to Wilson families.
Hugh Wilson born abt 1826 ( father Hamilton) married Susanna Cain born abt 1826 ( father John) on 1st Dec 1848 1st Presb Bailieboro. They were both from Drumkerry. They had a daughter Margaret Anne born abt 1850 who married Joseph Ross born abt 1843 ( father Joseph) on 4th Aug 1868 1st Presb Bailieboro. At that time the Wilson's were living in Galboly Bailieboro.
Violet Clarke born 7th Sep 1934 married 1952 to George Wilson at Knockbride Parish Church. Both buried in the churchyard.
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I too am a descendant of William Wilson and Mary Elizabeth Long of Cavan County. They had a son () and from that son came William Wilson who married Ann Jane Davidson from Belfast. Apparently the Davidsons had a clothing store in Belfast which burned down. William and Ann Jane Davidson are my great grand parents. They came or moved to Port Hope, Ontario, Canada by ship and then settled in a small community called Blackstock or Cartwright. They had about 7 sons one of which was my grandfather Albert Wilson. The year was roughly 1878 that William and Ann Jane are shown on the Census. The family is buried in Prince Albert Cemetery, Ontario. I would like to contact either William's descendants....thank you,Melody
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Hello, William Wilson and Mary Elizabeth Long had a son Thomas .....from this son he had a son William who along with Ann Jane Davidson came to Port Hope Canada. They had approx. 7 sons, and settled in Cartwright. I would love to be able to complete more of this picture, Williams brothers families on down, either William has there ever been a Wilson re-union in Ireland? This is the year of the gathering so we heard on the advertisements. A dream would be to go to Cavan...Melody
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William Wilson and Mary Elizabeth Long's daughter, Jane Wilson, (who married George Wilson of Cartwright, Ontario), received a letter from Lisdonan, County Cavan, Ireland in 1890. I have found that there was a Thomas Wilson who was a tenant in Lisdonan, and also there was a Stewart Long who was a tenant in Lisdonan. This is very interesting. I have researched a lot of information on the Wilson families in this area of Cavan( Cappy, Lisdonan, and Drumbar). I will go back to my notes and let you know what I discover.
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Re William Wilson & Mary Elizabeth Long, I have found a transcripion of a baptism in Knockbride Church of Ireland, for a Thomas Wilson, April 1838, and a William Wilson, April 1832, both sons of William & Eliza Wilson of Cappy.
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I'm curious if you folks know anything about Thomas K. Wilson (ca. 1830-1862) and Elizabeth Thompson (ca. 1830-bef. 1901). Both were born in Co. Cavan immigrated with their four sons to Quebec, Canada ca. 1862. He died at sea and she took the kids alone to Quebec and then remarried to William Maxwell. The four sons are: Andrew (1853-1929), Edward (1854-1927), William (1855-1922), and Thomas Kewatin (1861-1938).
I did some searching on Roots Ireland and found a Thomas Wilson b. 1829 in Knockbride to John and Jane Wilson, and a Elizabeth Thomson b. 1832 in Cavan to William Thomson and Bridget Keoan but I don't know if they are a match.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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To "alfredsdad" (reply # 18), I would like to exchange Wilson information with you or your cousins. I have been researching several Wilson families in the Cappy/Cappogh, Lisdonan, and Drumbar area of Cavan. There were several Wilson families in this area. I am sure they are all related, but am not sure just how they are connected.
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hi all,
any info on elizeabth thompson
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hi looking for any information on james wilson married phebe beattie /porter in knockbride c of i on 11 sept 1862 father william wilson
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The Wilson's who settled into Ontario - specifically Carlton and Stanley's Corners Ontario (outside of Ottawa) are my family. I have a lot of records of the Argue family and the Wilson's. Most are buried in the Stittsville Methodist Church. The tombstones are very well preserved. I am really interested in finding out more - the records indicate strongly (including a notation on the tombstone) that they were from County Cavan. The trouble is, they married a lot of second cousins too so it is difficult to sort them all out.
Hi to all the Wilson descendants,
I am also attached to the Wilson families of County Cavan in Ireland. On the various Irish sites and also on the films of the BDM registers there are several Wilson/Middleton marriages but I haven't untangled how yet.
My grandfather was John James Wilson Hogg Middleton. I remember him saying the Wilson & the Hogg were family names and that is why he had them attached to his name. He was born in Corraghy, Shercock, Co Cavan 1878. The Birhts etc all registered in Bailieborough.
The connection to Ontario is very close to County Cavan as John Hu(e)ston of County Cavan was sent to Ontario to start settlements there from Ireland and one of his addresses was in Cavan, Ontario. He left Ireland about 1810 with his wife Martha (nee Middleton). Other names who are all intermarried who went to Ontario from 1810 to 1880s were Argues, Mahoods, Bradleys. Several pieces of his inward correspondence are in the Trent University Archives. Have alook in case there are some from the Wilson family.
Sir John Young was also the landlord for the Middletons land. They were on the townland of Corraghy. The names in my grandfathers family of Middleton were Roberts, Johns, James, Williams, Thomases, Janes, Anns, Marthas, and they go through both the Middletons and the Wilsons on my lot for several generations.
Several of the family names are on the Griffiths Valuation Records. It is worth getting even just a one month subscription to the Origins genealogy website for Ireland.
Another valuable site I have found which is free to search is http://www.irelandoldnews.com/ On this you can click a county or just put in a name. I have found a marriage notice for William Middleton's (bn circa 1780) daughter Ann in 1859 just yesterday. You do have to take quite a bit of time scrolling and the names you want aren't highlighted but are in bold although a few have snuck through. I found in 1844 where William Middleton was on a voters list but had to scroll through several times before I finally found the name.
Regards, Patricia
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I would love to hear from anyone with Wilson ancestors from Cavan who has done an ancestry DNA test. I have recently done an ancestry DNA test and would like to see if we have matched. Thanks.
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Hi,
I too am looking for Wilsons in the Co Cavan area, my grandfather Charles Haughton Wilson b 1883 was a farmer in Killeshandra, although I think he came from Cessagh/Corradarren - I think!
I have other postings on the Cavan board asking for information on the Wilson family if you want to take a look to see if there is any common information.
I was sent a copy of an old obituary newspaper cutting which isn't dated but it mentions several Wilsons on it. I will have to dig it out. Any information that you can share would be really useful.
Thanks
Margaret
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"...... think he came from Cessagh/Corradarren ....."
Possibly Cessiaugh??
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/leitrim-carrigallen-coi/target91.html
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Dave,
What a star you are!
Thanks for this link, looks like you have been very busy on the photography, fantastic images.
As it happens this is not the grave of Charles Haughton Wilson, but it is a relative. Cessagh, Corradarren are all places where there were farms/ corn mills belonging to Charles Haughton Wilson (my grandfather).
Charles Haughton Wilson and his wife Eliza are buried in Croghan are buried in an unmarked grave, next to a tomb of Charles Haughton (married to Elizabeth Arnold), which you have very kindly already photographed the tomb. Charles Haughton was my great, great grandfather.
The other Wilson graves that you have photographed in Leitrum are all names I recognised are likely to be my relatives as my mother always said there were many Wilson relatives there. Earlier in the posting a newspaper cutting is mentioned by me which mentions a funeral with Wilson attendees from Gulladuff. It looks like the followers that attended are buried here too.
Thanks very much for this fantastic piece of information.
Your photographic skills are great, thanks again.
Margaret :) :)
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No problem!
There are more in pipeline and will be on IGP soon...
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Has anyone on this forum been able to make some connections between the WILSON lines mentioned on the forum?
I am still looking for further information on my William WILSON of Drumacarrow townland in Baillieborough.
Katharine.
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I have finally had DNA tests done at both Ancestry and 23andMe.
Here’s my WikiTree link if you’d like to compare :)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dudgeon-166
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Hi Robin. Not sure how I compare with that site. I had a quick look but not sure, can you clarify? Where are your Wilson's from in Cavan?
What is your user name in ANCESTRY DNA? I can just search that to see if we connect. Katharine.
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I found your tree now! Can't see any connection at the moment. I can't see a connection on DNA yet either.
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Hello.... my gr. Grandparents were William Wilson married to Ann Jane Davidson born in the 1830’s .. Williams parents were John Wilson and Jane....from Drumbar...I believe....my Gedmatch number is A009100. I would love to find a sibling for William and a maiden name for His mother Jane.I visited Cavan county in October and there is a large unmarked Wilson grave there. William and his parents attended Knockbride Church. I am on Ancestry. Sincerely Melody 🇨🇦
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My parents came from Cavan, my grandparents are buried in an unmarked grave in Croghan cemetery in Killeshandra, my grandfather was Charles Haughton Wilson (b 1883) and his wife was Eliza Wilson.
I think I posted a lot more about them a few years ago on this thread.
Don’t know if there is any significance.
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I am not a Wilson descendant, but have been looking into my husband's cousin's lines.
His great-grandfather was George Wilson, born 11 Oct 1870 at Beglieve townland, Knockbride Parish, County Cavan. He and his brother Josiah (born 27 Dec 1873) were working as blacksmiths at Tullylorean, Canningstown, in the 1901 census. Haven't managed to trace Josiah after 1901, so he's a bit of a mystery. George married Margaret Wasson on 22 Dec 1914 in Knockbride Parish, they had seven children, and moved just over the border to Northern Ireland in 1926.
George and Josiah were among at least known chlldren of George Wilson (born c1828, died 20 Apr 1886) and Martha Marshall (born c1831, died 25 Nov 1900) who married at Aughnamullan, County Monaghan on 24 Jan 1854. Martha was from Monaghan, George from Cavan. Other children were Robert (DOB unknown) Elizabeth (18 Feb 1864) Mary Ann (13 May 1866) and Sarah (1 Sep 1868).
George Wilson (Snr)'s father was Robert Wilson who, I assume, was born around 1800.
My husband's cousin has visited the house,with adjoining forge, where his father was born in 1920 and has a photograph of it. This is also where George Wilson was blacksmithing in 1901.
I have also found another Wilson line in the same townland, who are almost certainly related, but I'm not yet sure how.
John Wilson (probably born c1800 - possibly a brother of the Robert Wilson mentioned above?) had a son called Robert Wilson (probably born c1830). This Robert married Elizabeth Wade at Knockbride Parish on 22 Dec 1864.
Their known children are:
George Wilson, born 26 Sep 2867, died 10 Mar 1947 in Philadelphia, USA *
Eliza Wilson, born 13 Sep 1867
Unnamed female Wilson, born 9 May 1870
Mary Jane Wilson, born 7 Oct 1871
Margaret Anne Wilson, born 8 Feb 1874
John Wilson, born 22 May 1875
Annie Wilson, born 28 Oct 1877
* George Wilson who went to USA married Catherine ? and their known children, born in Pennsylvania, are:
George, born c1896
Margaret, born c1898
Elizabeth, born c1899
Robert, born c1900, died c1901
John, born c1903
Anna, born c1905
If anyone reading this has any links to these Wilson lines, please let me know and maybe we can fill in some gaps.
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Hello.....I too have Wilson ancestors from Knockbride Parish. My William Wilson was born approx 1836 and came to Canada in 1871. He did have siblings Jane, and John who went to the states and Mary whose children went to Australia. Their father was John Wilson and mother was Jane (possibly Parr) Has DNA been done? my Gedmatch no. is A009100.. Melody
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Hi Melody,
Unfortunately, I don't believe he has done a DNA test. Looking at Grififths Valuation for Knockbride Parish in 1856, there seem to have been quite a few Wilson families and it may take some time to try and work out who belongs to who, if that's even possible. We can but try!
Regards,
Fiona
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As nobody can be bothered mentioning what Religion their folk were.... IF thet were RC then the Cavan registers are online, free
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0846 Knockbride for example where one can research whom is related to whom etc
and other RC Parishes via Map
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Then you have Civil Reg
Births: 1864 to 1916
Marriages: 1845* to 1941
Deaths: 1864 to 1966
*non-Roman Catholic Marriages are recorded from 1845, Roman Catholic Marriages are recorded from 1864
then find the District they were in
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=7
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=22
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=41
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=52
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=73
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=83
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=86
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=131
then search just using Surname and r district on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
you can then select Marriages etc from list on left and decades etc and where one can research whom is related to whom too.
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Profound apologies for neglecting to mention the religion of the Wilsons I am researching, which was Christian.
They were Church of Ireland/Anglican in denomination, although there were some mixed marriages with Presbyterians. :) No idea where earlier generations might have worshipped.
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That’s ok. Mine were also Church of Ireland...Anglican. They intermarried with a Protestant though.
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Hi I meant Presbyterian. My Wilsons .....gr. Grandpa William and gr. Grandma Ann Jane Davidson married at a meeting house in Bailieborough. He went to Knockbride church. I visited the church in Knockbride last year. What a thrill! There is a very big squared off gravesite that are Wilsons” there is no marker. I hope one day to have a little marker put there...labelled Wilson family. I also visited the Wilson house in Drumbar. The original house was still there....cement blocks and thatched roof....partly falling in. What a wonderful 3 days I had there....I met family through the Davidson’s....and also through the Mulligans. There were three groups of Wilsons...I don’t have my info with me...one was the “rock” Wilsons...will have to look when home for other two. Melody
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My Wilson’s, Thomas Wilson and Elizabeth Thompson, were not Catholic. I have no records of Thomas but Elizabeth and their children are listed as Wesleyan Methodists once they came to Quebec.
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My Wilson’s were Methodists, and lived in Killeshandra, Cavan there is quite a lot of information on my Wilson family about my family very early on in this post under my name.
I wonder if there is a connection, although it is a very common name. :)
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Greetings.
My Cavan Wilsons are James WILSON (1842 - 1918) married to Frances CRANSTON (1842-1897).
These are Drumagoland, Virginia, Cavan, Ireland and Bailieborough, Co.Cavan, Ireland respectively.
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Looking for ROBERT WILSON b.1841 d. June 8th 1883 Married ELIZABETH WADE b. December 22,1864 in Parrish of Knockbride. ELIZABETH WADE d. Sept. 1 1885.
Children:
George Wilson b. Sept. 26, 1865 migrated to Philadelphia, Pa
Elizabeth Wilson b. Sept. 13, 1867
Female child b. May 9, 1970
MaryJane b. October 7, 1871
Margaret Anne Wilson b. Feb. 8 1874
John Wilson May 22, 1875
Annie or Anne Wilson b. October 28, 1877
Margaret b. June 10, 1882
I have more info. on these children if you think we are searching same WILSON's Thank You very much!!
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Good luck with your searches
Heywood
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Fiona’s post is on this thread
topics merged
Reply #41
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Family Search has their marriage cert transcribed
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV8-6GSG
You have to sign up, (free)
Father's John Wilson and Wm Wade
They married in Knockbride
22Dec 1864
Irish Genealogy will have the full cert online at some point or you can order a photocopy for €4
The registration district is Bailieborough
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/i-want-to-get-a-copy-of-a-certificate-what-do-i-do
You have to prove your not a robot and sign in but also free
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Hi all,
I'm related to the William Wilson/Esther Coote family that left County Cavan around 1840-1850 for Ontario. Marilyn (caswellm) described them in the first couple posts on this thread. I can find some family trees that correspond to this information on Ancestry.com, but as happens frequently, these don't have much in the way of pre-1860 Ireland sources attached.
Since the critical events in Ireland happened before the start of civil registration, I'm having difficulty finding any sources. I found an entry in Griffith's valuation that corresponds to the hints given by Marilyn, but since I believe that is from 1856, it is probably a different William Wilson than mine (although I believe related). I also found some valuation office books dated 1838 at census.nationalarchives.ie that probably correspond to my Wilson's.
The above 2 sources indicate that my Wilson's probably lived in BAILIEBOROUGH parish, Corkish townland, although I don't feel I have proven that.
My questions are:
(1) Any advice on gathering source material for this? I'm guessing church records are the best bet, but few of those seem to be online. I am not even certain what religion they were, although a grandson's marriage was Presbyterian. A physical trip to Ireland is unlikely for me.
(2) Somebody has clearly done some genealogy work on this family. Any thoughts on where I could look to find it? Of course, I'm hoping Marilyn comes back to this forum and can provide some details. Or maybe somebody here already corresponded with caswellm and can help me? I know there are other places that people deposit there genealogy work besides ancestry.com, such as familysearch or wikitree, but I haven't been able to find anything with sources.
Thanks for any help, and as far as I understand these boards, I can't read or send PMs yet,
Brent
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Hello, In reply to Tracey Clarke's reply #21: My G. Grandmother Matilda Wilson (aged approx. 14 years), of Millmount, County Cavan, Ireland, and her sister Annie emigrated to New Zealand in 1875. According to the marriage record of Matilda to George Edwards (G. Grandfather), her parents were: Hugh Wilson and Susan Kane. I found the marriage details of Margaret Anne Wilson and Joseph Ross on Family Search.com but have found no mention of Matilda or Annie. One of Matilda and George's sons was named George Hamilton Edwards.
Mary-Ann Laidlaw
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Thats great news. Interestingly Joseph Ross and Margaret Wilson named one of their daughters Matilda. Known as Tilly.
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If you want to do two more posts I would be able to send you an e-mail on what I know.
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I have finally had DNA tests done at both Ancestry and 23andMe.
Here’s my WikiTree link if you’d like to compare :)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dudgeon-166
Think this will be of interest to you.....
St Dympna' Church of Ireland, Ballinode, Co Monaghan. Removed from old Church!
No problem posting photo as it is my Copyright!
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Hi, further to Tracey Clarke's thread: Yes I did notice that one of Margaret's daughters was named Matilda.
Matilda and Annie Wilson were listed as single women on the passenger list of "Carrisbrooke Castle" from Belfast to NZ in 1875. It has occurred to me that they may have been servants to fellow passengers and their passages paid for by their employers. I don't know what happened to Annie after their arrival here. It was 5 1/2 years later that Matilda married George. Her age on the marriage certificate was 20 and her occupation was "Domestic Servant".
Mary-Ann Laidlaw
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I've just had another look at the Carisbrooke Castle full passenger list as per the Auckland Star newspaper 8 Sep 1875 and now have to re-evaluate my conviction that Matilda and Annie were sisters. There was a family of Wilsons who were "Saloon Passengers": John and Elizabeth Wilson and four children. The Saloon Passenger Single women listed 5 Wilson girls/women: Annie, Mary J., Martha, Sarah M., and Amelia Wilson.
Matilda Wilson was included in the "Immigrants" single women list.
Mary-Ann Laidlaw
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Hi all,
I'm related to the William Wilson/Esther Coote family that left County Cavan around 1840-1850 for Ontario. Marilyn (caswellm) described them in the first couple posts on this thread. I can find some family trees that correspond to this information on Ancestry.com, but as happens frequently, these don't have much in the way of pre-1860 Ireland sources attached.
Since the critical events in Ireland happened before the start of civil registration, I'm having difficulty finding any sources. I found an entry in Griffith's valuation that corresponds to the hints given by Marilyn, but since I believe that is from 1856, it is probably a different William Wilson than mine (although I believe related). I also found some valuation office books dated 1838 at census.nationalarchives.ie that probably correspond to my Wilson's.
The above 2 sources indicate that my Wilson's probably lived in BAILIEBOROUGH parish, Corkish townland, although I don't feel I have proven that.
My questions are:
(1) Any advice on gathering source material for this? I'm guessing church records are the best bet, but few of those seem to be online. I am not even certain what religion they were, although a grandson's marriage was Presbyterian. A physical trip to Ireland is unlikely for me.
(2) Somebody has clearly done some genealogy work on this family. Any thoughts on where I could look to find it? Of course, I'm hoping Marilyn comes back to this forum and can provide some details. Or maybe somebody here already corresponded with caswellm and can help me? I know there are other places that people deposit there genealogy work besides ancestry.com, such as familysearch or wikitree, but I haven't been able to find anything with sources.
Thanks for any help, and as far as I understand these boards, I can't read or send PMs yet,
Brent
Notes by Lorton Wilson on the families of Berry, Stirling, Bacon, Mc Morran, Wilson, Crowe, etc., of Derry, Down, Cavan, Monaghan, Offaly, etc., 16th to 20th c.
Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, T.1021
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Wilson Genealogical Collections: Vol. IV. Abstracts from parish registers on parochial returns relating to the Wilson and allied families, Berry, Molloy, Hallowes, Fetherston, Lackey, McMorran, etc.
Dublin: National Library of Ireland, n.3092, p.2713
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I knew I'd seen Matilda and Annie Wilson linked together on a Carisbrooke Castle passenger list somewhere which led me to believe they were sisters: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nzbound/genealogy/carisbrooke_castle1875.htm
In case the link gets taken down it's on freepages.rootsweb.com
Mary-Ann Laidlaw
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My notes on Matilda Wilson's arrival in NZ:
She Arrived 8 Sept 1975 on “Carisbrooke Castle” from Belfast, a voyage of 93 days. Matilda may have been accompanied by a sister? Annie. There were also other Wilsons on board. Two sources have differing versions of the passenger lists:
rootsweb.com passenger list:Special Settlers
Families: Elizabeth Wilson and four children
Single Women: Annie, Mary J, Martha, Sarah M, and Amelia Wilson
Single Men: Andrew, William, John, Andrew, Richard and James Wilson
Immigrants,
Single Women: Annie and Matilda Wilson
Auckland Star newspaper:
Families: John and Elizabeth Wilson and four children
Single men: Andrew, William, John, Annie, Andrew Richard, and James Wilson
Single Women: Annie, Mary J, Martha, Sarah M, and Amelia Wilson
Immigrants
Single Women: Matilda Wilson
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Looking for ROBERT WILSON b.1841 d. June 8th 1883 Married ELIZABETH WADE b. December 22,1864 in Parrish of Knockbride. ELIZABETH WADE d. Sept. 1 1885.
Children:
George Wilson b. Sept. 26, 1865 migrated to Philadelphia, Pa
Elizabeth Wilson b. Sept. 13, 1867
Female child b. May 9, 1970
MaryJane b. October 7, 1871
Margaret Anne Wilson b. Feb. 8 1874
John Wilson May 22, 1875
Annie or Anne Wilson b. October 28, 1877
Margaret b. June 10, 1882
I have more info. on these children if you think we are searching same WILSON's Thank You very much!!
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of Beglieve Townland, Knockbride ! https://www.logainm.ie/en/1412180?s=Beglieve
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Beglieve Townland, Knockbride CIVIL Parish
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So... I searched for Churches nearby, you have 1st Bailieboro, Seafin, St Anne's, Trinity......... and Tesco ;D
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Now, as the actual Townland Beglieve has been posted one can look for stuff
e.g The family connections of John Byers of Beglieve
where Coots are mentioned, Wilson too on
https://www.byersfamilies.com/john-byers-of-beglieve.php#JohnByers05
and some Church Registers!!
https://www.byersfamilies.com/church-records.php
If people can't even be bothered posting their Townland it makes things more difficult!
Above found in less than 30 seconds by Googling "wilson beglieve"
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McKagues and Wilson and McIndoo in County Cavan
"....grew up in the townland of Cullies in the Parish of Knockbride where I have traced my ancestors back to the late 1700s. It was possible to do so because they attended Corraneary Presbyterian Church and its baptismal records go back to 1764. The baptismal records of the neighboring church at Corglass only go back to 1861......"
https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/message-board/mckagues-and-wilson-and-mcindoo-county-cavan
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Probably the one mentioned on The family connections of John Byers of Beglieve
The death has occurred of Jack WILSON
Rooskey, Beglieve, Bailieborough, Cavan
Funeral leaving the residence of his grandaughter, L and W Wedlock, Rooskey, Beglieve, tomorrow afternoon at 2pm, arriving at Knockbride Parish Church at 2.30pm for Funeral Service, followed by burial in the adjoining churchyard. Family flowers only. Donations to Palliative Home Care.
https://rip.ie/death-notice/jack-wilson-bailieborough-cavan/54040
Snail mail to L and W Wedlock might be worth a try??
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I’ve been watching this thread for many years now and I just thought I’d throw into the arena as townlands are being mentioned. My that my family came from Loughnafin/ Rockfield my grandfather Charles Haughton Wilson b 1883 was a farmer in Killeshandra, although I think he had a corn mill in Springfield/ Cessagh/Corradarren.
Charles was the son of John Wilson (b1854)who was married to Mary Jane Haughton (b1861), he married Eliza Morrison (b1884)
Don’t know if there any links here.
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I read through all of the Wilson posts to see if there was a connection to the Wilson I am looking for and I don't believe any matched. I am looking for Thomas Wilson born about 1802/5 married Jane (no info). They had 3 children all born in Ireland - Thomas art 1849, John art 1850/2 and Jane 1853/55. Records here reference County Cavan, Church of England, Methodist and Presbyterian. I could not find them in Canada in the 1861 census but they do appear in the 1871 census in Hope, Durham, Ontario, Canada. I can trace their history from 1871 forward. Looking for family links in Ireland or direct relatives that came to Canada. That are many Wilsons in the Hope, Durham area in Canada as well that do not seem to be connected. I believe there may be a connection to a William Wilson and James Wilson in Port Hope in 1870's/80's. Any guidance or help would be great.
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I'm the Wilson referred to by Fiona MacDonald and just encountered this site tonight as my son-in-law has been trying to compile the Wilson family tree. My father, Thomas Robert, was George Wilson's son and Josiah was his uncle. Unfortunately we cannot identify who George and Josiah's (and rest of that family) father was as my dad and his siblings never knew their grandfather. The eldest in dad's family would have been around 3 years old when their grandfather died, from what we know. My daughter has had a DNA test undertaken so should this help others, as well as ourselves, fill in some gaps then do please advise.
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I would love to hear from anyone with Wilson ancestors from Cavan who has done an ancestry DNA test. I have recently done an ancestry DNA test and would like to see if we have matched. Thanks.
My daughter has had an ancestry DNA test undertaken. Our Cavan links are to a George Wilson (1828–1886): Date of Death: 20 Apr 1886 at Beglieve, Bailieborough, County Cavan, Ireland.
This may be helpful to you.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Our Cavan links are to a George Wilson (1828–1886): Date of Death: 20 Apr 1886 at Beglieve, Bailieborough, County Cavan, Ireland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06250/4789732.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clankee/knockbride/skeagh/beglieve/
KG
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Our Cavan links are to a George Wilson (1828–1886): Date of Death: 20 Apr 1886 at Beglieve, Bailieborough, County Cavan, Ireland.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06250/4789732.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clankee/knockbride/skeagh/beglieve/
KG
Thanks for this reply which is appreciated. We have the census data so know the other siblings of George's (my grandfather) however so far we cannot trace further details. One of the family was Josiah and in one census he was residing with his brother George. The other family members were not given. Do you know where one can search for Josiah's and the other sibling's birth, marriage and death certificates? Attempts via, for example, ancestry.com and with DNA results have so far been unsuccessful. I know that George married a Margaret Wasson and they lived in Canningstown and their home remains and is still occupied by the family of the man who purchased it. Your link to my grandfather's death record fills in another part of the jigsaw. Many Thanks Noel
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One of the family was Josiah and in one census he was residing with his brother George. The other family members were not given. Do you know where one can search for Josiah's and the other sibling's birth, marriage and death certificates?
Is this George and Josiah in the 1901 census?
Residents of a house 23 in Tullylorean (Canningstown, Cavan)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Canningstown/Tullylorean/1048032/
Both are blacksmiths.
Have you tried this free website https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
for BMD records?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/news/154-update-to-the-civil-records-3
KG
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Is this George and Josiah in the 1901 census?
Residents of a house 23 in Tullylorean (Canningstown, Cavan)
The townland has been mistranscribed on the census - it should be Tullylorcan.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clankee/knockbride/canningstown/tullylorcan/
KG
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I know that George married a Margaret Wasson and they lived in Canningstown
George married Margaret Wasson on 22nd December 1914 in Knockbride CoI.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09864/5582991.pdf
George residing in Canningstown, in Tullylorcan townland.
KG
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Thanks for this reply. There is a John Wilson who is a brother of George and Josiah but hid DofB is 1865 and DofD is 1916. My grandfather was George and we have found details on him but not his siblings. I append an extract from the Family Tree to show the siblings and the link to my great great grandfather. Does this help? I welcome your suggestions.
Thanks Noel Wilson
I’ve been watching this thread for many years now and I just thought I’d throw into the arena as townlands are being mentioned. My that my family came from Loughnafin/ Rockfield my grandfather Charles Haughton Wilson b 1883 was a farmer in Killeshandra, although I think he had a corn mill in Springfield/ Cessagh/Corradarren.
Charles was the son of John Wilson (b1854)who was married to Mary Jane Haughton (b1861), he married Eliza Morrison (b1884)
Don’t know if there any links here.
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.......james wilson married phebe beattie /porter in knockbride c of i on 11 sept 1862 father william wilson
Marriage on 15th February 1866 in Knockbride Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11522/8237431.pdf
KG
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.......james wilson married phebe beattie /porter in knockbride c of i on 11 sept 1862 father william wilson
Marriage on 15th February 1866 in Knockbride Parish Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11522/8237431.pdf
James Wilson residing in Drumbar townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clankee/knockbride/skeagh/drumbar/
Phoebe Beatty residing in Drumhilla (sic) townland.
https://www.townlands.ie/cavan/clankee/knockbride/canningstown/drumhillagh/
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Wilson Genealogical Collections: Vol. IV. Abstracts from parish registers on parochial returns relating to the Wilson and allied families, Berry, Molloy, Hallowes, Fetherston, Lackey, McMorran, etc.
Dublin: National Library of Ireland, n.3092, p.2713
Can you please share what the Fetherston connection here is? I’m a Fetherston whose ancestors came from near Castlepollard, Westmeath, however there were cousins in Cavan. Thanks
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Welcome to Rootschat.
Hallmark hasn’t been online for a while but I searched online and this seems to be the collection
http://sources.nli.ie/Record/MS_UR_063819
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Dear Caswellm,
You were looking for Wilsons of Cavan. Here is another. Rachel Wilson (born about 1809 in "Ireland") married Edward Harrison of Cootehill, Cavan, about 1830. They had an eldest son James Harrison and then in 1832 sailed for Canada, settling in Peel County Ontario. His siblings were on Wolfe Island, Ontario. The Harrison family was Presbyterian, as were many Wilsons I have come across.
I know nothing about Rachel's origins. Im putting together a tree, I rely heavily on the Irish naming tradition. Rachel named her four daughters in this order: Margaret, Mary, Jane, Rachel. If Edward and Rachel senior followed that tradition-and his parents and uncle did not, but cousins did--then this might hold true. Maybe Rachel's mother was Margaret, her eldest sister was Mary, she herself should have been Jane, and a favorite sister would have been Rachel. (But you see that Jane and Rachel are switched.)
The mother's name for Edward was Frances, a name not used by Edward and Rachel for their daughters. Good luck with your Wilsons. I have many.
Polly LYNN
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My family are Wilson and we are from Cavan
My gggrandfather moved to Cavan from Scotland around 1850 I believe and he was William Wilson
My grandfather was George Henry Wilson and died in a bicycle accident 1940 (60)
They all lived in the Cappy/Corleck area near Knockbride, Bailiebourgh
My Uncles (4) and grandmother all moved up to Belfast along with my dad in about 1948
Uncle Joe moved to Canada in around 1950 living near Toronto when we visited in 1980
My father Thomas Alfred Wilson died in 2010 and we buried him alongside his father in Cavan
We still have family in the area although I do not get there too often, cousins mainly
Rest of my (direct) family are in Belfast area mainly
My dad and my Uncle Willie Wilson were doing quite some genealogy and now my cousin has taken up the mantle, although I should not leave him doing it alone!
Not sure if that is interesting to anyone but the thread came up on a google search I fancied replying
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Hello Alfredsdad: You were at my house in Ontario with your mum, Auntie Doreen, and your dad, Uncle Alfie, and your sister. I think her name is Susan. My dad was your Uncle Joe. I want to visit Ireland and would like to visit the home farm near Bailliebourgh in Cavan. I saw the buildings from the bottom of the driveway back in 1982 but we didn't go to the door.
My dad took me to see the churchyard at Knockbridge but I couldn't find it now.