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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Bedfordshire => England => Bedfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: gladys1 on Tuesday 28 July 09 18:09 BST (UK)
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Please is it possible for some kind person to find a birth/bap for Rebecca Cherry at Dunstable, i don`t know who her father was, sorry about that. Many Thanks. gladys1 :)
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hello gladys,
Have you more info about her, perhaps who she married in later years. There are a few Rebeccas born around then at Dunstable in 1841 / 1851 censuses.
regards John
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Hello John, All i know about Rebecca is she married William Chamberlain 1843 ,29 Oct at Leighton Buzzard, she was William`s 2nd wife, i have the 1851 census for William Chamberlain and Rebecca in Stonie Pit Quarry Leighton Buzzard, he was a Bricklayer Labourer . In 1841 census William was with his first wife Ann Humbles . Many thanks. Regards Gladys. :)
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I noticed that marriage on the IGI.
For Rebecca it states only that her father was John - so unspecifically not John Cherry then. William Chamberlains father was Joseph Chamberlain.
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Hello John, i looked on IGIs for Rebecca Cherry but couldn`t find her so her father must be John Cherry and William Chamberlains father would be Joseph as he has a son Joseph aged 15 in 1841 census. Was there a John Cherry with daur Rebecca born 1815 at Dunstable when you first sent me the topic. Thanks a lot. Regards Gladys :)
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Gladys; Like you I cannot find a baptism of Rebecca Cherry on the IGI in Dunstable, Leighton Buzzard or anywhere else in Bedfordshire.
I cannot find her on 1841 census or even a John Cherry
I did notice a FreeBMD Death Index of a John * Cherry at Leighton Buzzard RD vol 6 page 4* in Oct-Dec 1838; could it be him.
There may be more info on her1843 marriage certificate to William Chamberlain, you could send off for it or view the parish record entry at Beds Archives or Luton library.
On Genes Reunited there are 3 trees that have Rebecca Cherry born Dunstable, one most likely is yourself; have you contacted the other two people?
Regards John
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Hello John, i have just been in contact to one person for Rebecca Cherry which was about three weeks ago so the other ones off genesreuntied would have been for the Chamberlains, looks like i won`t get any where with Rebecca. I shall put a request in for the marriage as i know of one person who might look the marriage up as she sent me loads on my Spring family so i will give it a try. By the way i see you have the name Bishop in your family which i have a Frederick Bishop. Thank you so much for helping me. Much Appreciated. Regards Gladys. :)
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Hello John, just to let you know that i sent for a copy of William Chamberlain and Rebecca Cherry`s marriage certificate at Bedford Archives and have just recieved back to day and Rebecca was a widow and her father was John which looks like W/Hooller, i can`t make it out really. William was a widower. Brick wall now. ???
Regards Gladys.
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Gladys, Don't rush headlong into that brickwall - use the information.
If Rebecca was a widow on her marriage in 1843 then lets go looking for a the dead male Cherrys in Leighton Buzzard just before then. I would not think that a younger than 28 woman would not want to stay widowed for so long. FreeBMD has a couple, Samuel 1837 & John * 1838.
Wonder if either of them married a Rebecca ? ? ? ?
regards John
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Could the father's name be WOTTON? In 1871 she gave her age as 57, which could tie up with a baptism of Rebecca Wotton at Dunstable on 26 June 1814, father John
You might have to purchase the birth cert of one of her children to have another go at her maiden name
David
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Hello John, you are a good help, i was going to scan the cert which isn`t a good one so i clicked on attach and nothing happened. Yes i think the name could be Wotton so its a birth cert for one of the children i guess. That must be her then at Dunstable 1814. Thanks very much indeed. Regards Gladys. :)
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Hello Gladys,
Interesting thought David... there is a FreeBMD marriage in Oct-Dec 1837 of a Rebecca Wooton in Luton RD vol 6 page 154 - shame that there are no other names listed for that same page.
Regards John
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I still can't find a marriage of a Rebecca Wotton to a Cherry though. Perhaps John can come up with the goodies!
David (not John)
Good spot John. I knew I could rely on you!
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There's also an Emanuel Cherry marriage in Luton in Dec 1837 vol 11 p 157. He was buried age 23 on 10 Nov 1838 at Dunstable
QED?
David
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even better.... the FreeBMD site finds me Emanual Cherry in Luton RD vol 11 page 157 in Dec qtr 1837, the page number is suspect - if you click on it the other names are in Bristol.
Now when did Emanuel die - thought I saw a death index entry for him in Leighton Buzzard in 1844 - after the 1843 marriage ?
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cheers David - I got the wrong Emanual. John
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Hello John & David, have you sorted me a marriage out as amm getting mixed up here ;D i shall have a look on Free BMD now. Thank you very much. Regards Gladys. :)
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We're chasing each other's tails here! I was just going to comment on the incorrect reference in the middle of the Bristol batch!
For a belt and braces job Gladys ought to get this marriage cert, using the Rebecca Wooton reference, but I'm pretty comfortable about it
Where did it take place that it's not on the IGI?
David
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There's a death of Emanuel Cherry in the Dec quarter 1838 at Luton. I've found it on the image but not in the index
David
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Hiya David, i think the 1837 marriage for Rebecca Wooton in Luton would be a good idea, there is a image search on Free BDM which i will look on there to see if there is a male Cherry, not the night though as it takes quite a bit time and will let you know. John will agree with that marriage i think. Thanks for been very kind helping me. Regards Gladys. :) PS, well i never i have just mentioned the image search on FreeBMD and heres you been looking at it.
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On 1841 census I've found a Rebecca CHERY age 20 born in county. living in Dunstable with a 2 year old Elizabeth.
HO107/ Piece 5 Book 7 Folio 18 Page 31
FreeBMD has birth index of Elizabeth Cherry in Jul-Sept 1838 at Luton RD vol 6 page 90
Does this daughter feature in later censuses ?
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Hello John, i have`nt any census for Cherry and the only Elizabeth i have is the daur of William and Ann Chamberlain his first wife. I have to look on the image on FreeBMD yet when i get round to it for a marriage of a Cherry to Rebecca Wooton, it is Wooton when i get a good look at the marriage. Thank you very kindly for your help. We have to be family tree detectives :) Regards Gladys. :)
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Hello John, where is the image on Free BMD as i can`t find it now, ave looked about. Gladys. :)
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Me again John, i typed image in Free BMD and it came up. Gladys :)
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Me again John, i typed image in Free BMD and it came up. Gladys :)
Hello John, there is no Rebecca Wooton on images. Gladys. :)
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Put in Rebecca Wooton. Then when Luton December 1837 shows up click on the pair of spectacles to the right. Then click on View the Original
It's there
To find Emanuel Cherry just put in Cherry Dec 1837. Again click on the spectacles to the right of his name
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Ive done what you said and seen them but the only thing is they have a different Vol and page numbers so did they get married, i will have to email the Archives again and ask them if they would check that up for me as i will send for a marriage certificate. Regards Gladys :)
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Hello David & John, i have looked on the image and there was no male Cherry to Rebecca Wooton`s reference, strange going on, thought that i would let you know. Regards Gladys :)
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I think this is what John and I were saying - that the references don't match up, and that the reference for Emanuel seems to be an error as it's the same as a load of Bristol references.
David
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Hi David, i think i will just leave that marriage as its no good me filling a form in for Rebecca Wooton when i don`t know the full name of the groom as i emailed Luton archives and gave them the reference for Rebecca and told them i didn`t know her spouse`s full name as they sent me a form by email to fill in so whats the use ??? never mind. Thank you for helping me. Regards Gladys. :)
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Why not order from the GRO quoting the reference we gave for Rebecca Wooton, and adding as a reference point that the groom has to be Emanuel Cherry. You can do it online at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Dead easy
I'm quite sure it's the right marriage