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Title: Patrick Gilmore, born c.1870 - topical enquiry
Post by: kd-4019 on Tuesday 18 August 09 21:22 BST (UK)

Hi,
I would be really glad if someone could please find any dates and/or information on this relative of mine.  He may have come from Ballynahinch, Co. Cown.  I know Patrick Gilmore married Elizabeth Crangle on 29-Sep-1898 in Belfast, where they resided in 31 Lowry Street (east Belfast).  I have no birth or death records for him.  Elizabeth and son left Belfast between 1900-10 to live with her brother in Ardglass.

I ask this because his son, John Joseph (Joe) Gilmore MBE 1900-45 will be honoured in Ardglass on 29 Aug '09 with a Blue Plaque on account of his pioneering aviation.

Many thanks! :-\

Title: Re: Patrick Gilmore, born c.1870 - topical enquiry
Post by: OTTO on Wednesday 19 August 09 09:47 BST (UK)

It would help if you can supply Patricks fathers name from their marriage certificate, which may also give details of addresses.

Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 29 Sep 1898
Groom Name patrick GILMORE
Bride Name elizabeth CRANGLE
Church Belfast Roman Catholic Church
Parish Belfast Urban 2
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim


Their marriage certificate details can be bought for £6 from : http://www.groni.gov.uk/index/order_certificates.htm  quoting the registration district,Volume and page number below

Name: Lizzie Crangle
Registration district: Belfast
Record type: MARRIAGES
Registration date - quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1898
Estimated birth year:
Age:
Mother's surnames:
Film number: 101259
Volume: 1
Page: 579
Digital GS number: 4195895
Image number: 00121
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958

This may be Lizzie Gilmore visiting relatives in the 1911 census :
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002225445/

OTTO

Title: Re: Patrick Gilmore, born c.1870 - topical enquiry
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 19 August 09 14:10 BST (UK)

See here for details of ordering N.I. certificates:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,383526.0.html

Title: Re: Patrick Gilmore, born c.1870 - topical enquiry
Post by: kd-4019 on Thursday 20 August 09 19:27 BST (UK)

Hi OTTO

Thanks for the information, but particularly the point of having Patrick's father's name.  I have ordered the wedding details search and will get it within 20 days.

Hopefully this will give me the information I needed.  If not, I'll be posting another message here!

Title: Re: Patrick Gilmore, born c.1870 - topical enquiry
Post by: maryderry on Thursday 20 August 09 23:28 BST (UK)

patricks father was daniel, elizabeths father was james.




                                            regards mary.

Title: Re: Patrick Gilmore, born c.1870 - topical enquiry
Post by: OTTO on Friday 21 August 09 08:39 BST (UK)

Quote from: kd-4019 on Thursday 20 August 09 19:27 BST (UK)

Hi OTTO

Thanks for the information, but particularly the point of having Patrick's father's name.  I have ordered the wedding details search and will get it within 20 days.

Hopefully this will give me the information I needed.  If not, I'll be posting another message here!

If you prefer to have the marriage details before 29th August, You can purchase these from www.ancestryireland.com (that is where maryderry got the fathers names from)for £4. The details you will receive will probably not be as comprehensive as the certificate you have ordered, but if you have a time frame, it should be worth it.

OTTO