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Title: James CHARLES 1851 Census COMPLETED
Post by: jadewing on Tuesday 01 September 09 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm looking for 3 generations of James CHARLES, all bricklayers, in Waddingham in 1851.

1.  James Charles b Bishop Norton c1795 (he was a widower in 1861 so I don't have a spouse name as yet)

2.  James Charles b Waddingham c 1818, wife Ann b Blyton c1818

3. James Charles b Waddingham c1841, wife Jane Pinning b Nettleham 1842, dau of Catherine Pinning I think.

Thanks, Jane

[corrected Waddington to Waddingham]
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: Geoff-E on Tuesday 01 September 09 17:09 BST (UK)
Marriage 13 Feb 1817 at Bishop Norton
James CHARLES to Mary DENT

Please note: birthplaces are Waddingham not Waddington - they are different places.

Perhaps this marriage is relevant, I can't see anything suitable in Lincs.

CHARLES   James (son of James)
TURNER   Ann   (dau of James)
Holy Trinity   Hull, 28 Jan 1839, (See IGI)

Marriages Mar 1839   
CHARLES    James      Hull    22   239    
TURNER    Ann         Hull    22   239

Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: jadewing on Wednesday 02 September 09 01:00 BST (UK)
Thanks Geoff-E.  :)

And sorry about the Waddington/Waddingham mistake which I have now corrected.  :-[  It was late, I was tired ...

Jane
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 September 09 04:32 BST (UK)
Further to Geoff E's info :)

1851 Census
Chapel Lane,
Waddingtham, Lincolnshire
HO107/2115/345/20

James CHARLES, head, 56, mar, bricklayer, Lincs, Bishop Norton
Mary, wife, mar, 56, Lincs, Atterby
Sarah, daug, unm, 22, school mistress, Lincs, Waddingham
Barzilla, son, unm, 20, bricklayer, Waddingham
Thomas, son, unm, 18, post messenger, Waddingham
Elizabeth, dau, unm, 16, dress maker, Waddingham
Susanna, dau, unm, 13, scholar, Waddingham
Peter Flen, servant, unm, 19, bricklayers lab, County Mayo, Ireland

Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 September 09 04:46 BST (UK)
1851 Census
Front St ( had to read)
Waddingham, Lincolnshire
HO107/2115/344/18

James CHARLES, head, mar,34, bricklayer, Waddingham
Ann, wife, mar, 34, born Lincs, Blyton
Harriott, daug, unm,11, Lincs, Blyton
JAMES, son, unm, 10
Mary Ann, dau, unm, 8
Joseph, son, unm, 7
Edwin, son, unm,5
John, son, unm, 3
Emma, dau, 6mths
George Metcalfe, visitor, unm, 27, joiner, Lincs, Owston

All children born Waddingham except Harriott
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 September 09 05:06 BST (UK)
Not sure if you have this but by 1871 James snr has remarried to a Margaret;

1871 Census
Chapel Lane, Waddingham
RG10/2345/8/10

James CHARLES, 77, head, mar, bricklayer, Lincs, Bishop Norton
Margaret Charles, 65, wife, mar, Yorkshire, Alborough

Next door is ELIJAH Charles + lg family, 45 , tailor and draper, born Waddington


There are quite a few marriages on www.freereg.org.uk for this family;

Harriott CHARLES to CAMMOCH 1859

Susannah CHARLES to BROWN 1 Dec 1856

*******James Snr to Margaret CANN 10 April 1862*******
Both widow/widower

Elizabeth CHARLES to NORTHING 1878

Mary Ann CHARLES to KIRKBY 1868


Cheers,
Trish
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 September 09 05:14 BST (UK)
Also some deaths on Freereg;

James CHARLES, age 83, died 1 Januray 1876 ( Snr?)
James CHARLES, age 91, died 1909 ( son 1818?)
Ann CHARLES, age 65, 1881
Mary CHARLES, age 63, 1859

I havent looked at the births yet, got to go out.

Cheers,
Trish
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: jadewing on Wednesday 02 September 09 06:51 BST (UK)
Excellent!  thanks heaps Trish.  :-* 

I hadn't checked FreeReg yet so good to find some more info there.

Cheers, Jane

PS:  Is Catherine Pinning anywhere to be seen in 1851? I had a bit of a look for her in 1841 without success and the only Pinnings in Waddingham in later years seem to be John and Mary who were living next door to James and Ann (I think it was them?)
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: ivanidea on Wednesday 02 September 09 11:59 BST (UK)
PS:  Is Catherine Pinning anywhere to be seen in 1851? I had a bit of a look for her in 1841 without success and the only Pinnings in Waddingham in later years seem to be John and Mary who were living next door to James and Ann (I think it was them?)

Marriages Sep 1848   
DENTON  Thomas    Sleaford  14 797   
Hassel  Ann     Sleaford  14 797   
KITTLE  Martha     Sleaford  14 797   
Parnham  John     Sleaford  14 797   
PINNING  Catherine     Sleaford  14 797   
TOWERS  John     Sleaford  14 797

1851 Census
Chapel Lane, Waddingham
Thomas Denton, Head, Mar., 27, Blacksmith, born Willoughton, Lincs
Catherine Denton, Wife, Mar., 29, born Waddingham
Jane Pining, Daur, 8, Scholar, born Nettleham
Margaret Denton, Daur, 2, born Osbournby

(Same page as James and Mary Charles)

Ivan
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 02 September 09 12:00 BST (UK)
Beat me ;D ;)
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: Geoff-E on Wednesday 02 September 09 12:05 BST (UK)
17 July 1848 at Osbournby
Thomas DENTON (son of James Thornton DENTON) to Catherine PINNING (dau of John)
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: jadewing on Wednesday 02 September 09 13:29 BST (UK)
Excellent!  Thanks again Trish & Geoff, Thanks Ivan!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: jadewing on Thursday 03 September 09 05:36 BST (UK)
Hello again.  Could I trouble someone to look for John & Mary Pinning  in 1851 as well? 

I had come across them in Town Street in 1861, next door to or in the same house as James & Jane Charles but didn't know where or if they fitted in to the picture.  It now looks like they are probably Catherine's parents based on a baptism record on FreeReg. :)

Thanks, Jane
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 03 September 09 08:04 BST (UK)
Hi Jane

1851
Chapel Lane, Waddingham
John PINING 59 AgLab
Mary 65
Harriett (gr dau) 7
Jane (gr dau) 1 I think
All born Waddingham
HO107/2115/345/21

This was the page after James CHARLES 56 and family (reported earlier by trish1120) and next door to the delightfully named Cumfort GIRDHAM :)
Title: Re: James CHARLES 1851 Census Pls
Post by: jadewing on Thursday 03 September 09 09:00 BST (UK)
Thanks Geoff.  :) 

I'm sure it was reassuring to live next door to Cumfort Girdham.  I wonder if they lived up to their name?