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Title: mothers maiden name
Post by: dimply on Tuesday 29 September 09 11:36 BST (UK)

Help required please to decipher mothers maiden name on a birth certificate - I think it might be Fuller? but then my problem is I can't find record of marriage between the parents Thankyou :)

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Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: Tati on Tuesday 29 September 09 12:04 BST (UK)

Hi Dimply,

I see it as Fuller too but just like you, I can't see a marriage (or even the family in 1861)  :(

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: dimply on Tuesday 29 September 09 13:35 BST (UK)

Hi Tati - many thanks for your input - I too can't find Sarah until she is with Thomas on the 1871 census.  She is down as being born in Greenwich abt 1832 - it's a puzzle ???  Once again many thanks Dimply

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: LizzieW on Tuesday 29 September 09 14:04 BST (UK)

Hi

"Formerly" only means the name she was formerly known as, it doesn't mean she actually married.  On my gran's birth cert, her mother gives her maiden name as "late", her previous married name as "formerly" and then the name she was using, but neither I, nor the ranks of Rootschatters or distant relatives can find a marriage between g.gran and g.grandfather.

Lizzie

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 29 September 09 14:14 BST (UK)

Hi All

This looks an interesting entry for 1861 in Greenwich:

Sarah Maloney 25
Joseph Maloney 6
Richard Maloney 4
Jane Fuller 20

Class: RG9; Piece: 401; Folio: 87; Page: 14

Monica

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 29 September 09 14:24 BST (UK)

Can't as yet see her marriage to Thomas under either name for her, but this may be her first marriage:

Marriages 1st Qrt 1855 
Sarah Isabella    Fuller in Greenwich    1d   522   - two names, James Meloney and John Brown

Monica

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: Galium on Tuesday 29 September 09 14:32 BST (UK)

Sarah Isabella Fuller married James MELANEY  at St Paul, Deptford, 21 January 1855
Both otp, full age, previously unmarried. Her father is Richard Fuller, a labourer.  One witness is also named Sarah Fuller.

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 29 September 09 14:37 BST (UK)

Possibly Sarah's family in 1851 - all born and living in Greenwich. Sister Jane below would fit with the 1861 entry with Jane Fuller showing as sister to Sarah Maloney, widow:

Richard Fuller 38
Sarah Fuller 37
Sarah Fuller 16
Richard Fuller 11
Jane Fuller 9
George Fuller 6
Mary Fuller 4

Class: HO107; Piece: 1587; Folio: 78; Page: 11

This might be death of husband James Maloney:

Deaths 4th Qrt 1860 
James Maloney     - Greenwich    1d   411

Monica

Title: Re: mothers maiden name
Post by: dimply on Tuesday 29 September 09 22:21 BST (UK)

Many many thanks to you - this looks like the family!  On the 1871 census there is a Joseph & Richard being born in Greenwich they must have taken the surname of Cartwright when Sarah met with Thomas.
I am very grateful
Kind regards
Dimply