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Hi,
My Gr Gr Grandparents were called John Rice and Elizabeth Morrow. They were married on 11/09/1858. Elizabeth was born on 14/02/1830 in Dromore Parish. I understand her father was called Thomas Morrow and her mother was called Eleanor Downey. Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Marie
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The 1858 marriage certificate should give details such as fathers' names and occupations and residences of bride and groom at the time of the marriage which might help searching for other records.
You haven't given the name of the church where the marriage took place but if the church records exist for this period they might have information on the bride's family (marriages usually took place in the bride's church) and possibly the groom's family.
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Hi,
The marriage took place in Lisburn Civil Registrars Office and the bride's name is given as ELIZA.
Regards
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found a marriage for john rice to eliza morrow antrim 1858.husbands father is john wifes father is samuel.
regards mary.
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Many thanks for all your help.
Unfortunately I dont know which Church they were married in. I think it was a Catholic Church.
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Civil registration of Catholic marriages didn't start until 1864 so if it was a Catholic ceremony you won't find it in civil index on LDS Pilot site.
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Hi Marie, I came across your post while searching another Morrow in my family tree. Your Elizabeth Morrow married to John Rice is in my family line. Her brother John born Dromore c.1825/26 who is my gg grandfather, married Letitia Johnston, 1850 Donegal, daughter Letitia Morrow born Donegal 1880, she married my g grandfather James Morrow in 1904, (yes both Morrow's), Their son John, was my grandfather. I am currently researching James Morrow's (born c.1880) family line, and know his father was also James and that's when I saw your post.
Elizabeth Morrow, Father, Thomas Morrow b.1797 m. Elanor Downey. Children Elizabeth & John plus Sarah 7/12/1833; Alice 20/12/1832; James 29/01/1825.
Thomas Morrow, Father John Morrow, mother Elizabeth Burns. I have to clarify all this, but your search for families in Donegal also gives me hope that this is correct.
Hope this helps you in some way. Best Regards Terry Morrow
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Hi Terry,
This is very interesting. My grandmother was called Sarah so this may be a family name. Elizabeth and John's son moved to Scotland and married my Gr Grandmother. Incidently her maiden name was Rice too! This part of the family have lived in Scotland since. Always great to get more info. This is the first time I have heard from someone I may be related to. Very exciting.
Marie
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Hi Marie,
I saw the marriage record of 1958 in Lisburn but two problems, this Elizabeth is born in 1837 & it say's that her father is Samuel.
What was the name of their son that went to Scotland & married your gr grandmother? And would they have been Roman Catholic or Protestant, if you don't mind me asking.
By the way, are you yourself from Scotland?
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Hi Terry,
His name was Samuel Rice and he was born around 1869. I have a copy of his marriage certificate. He was 24 when he married my gr grandmother Isabella Rice in 1893 in Scotland. He was Roman Catholic and yes I am from Scotland. He died in 1915 and Isabella was left to bring up her young family. My grandmother was 5 when he died. Incidently she was called Sarah.
Marie
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Hi,
Found the following children for John Rice and Elizabeth Morrell all born in Newtownards area.
27 Feb 1866 William
26 Mar 1868 Samuel Joseph
20 Jul 1870 Catherine
23 Nov 1872 Patrick
1879 William.
Regards
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Hi,
My Gr Gr Grandparents were called John Rice and Elizabeth Morrow. They were married on 11/09/1858. Elizabeth was born on 14/02/1830 in Dromore Parish. I understand her father was called Thomas Morrow and her mother was called Eleanor Downey. Any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Marie
Hi Marie,
My Gr Grandfather George Rice (b. abt 1860) married Rose McLoughlin (b. abt 1870) of Hill Street, Lisburn (see attached). My Gr Gr Grandfather was John Rice who I believe lived in Lisburn. Have you come across any George's in your research? I know there was a connection to Port Glasgow, Scotland.
I joined the Rice Family Y-DNA Project. Have any of your Rice males had their DNA read?
Pat
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No they havent Pat. I haven't come across any Georges in my research and as far as I am aware none of the family settled in Port Glasgow. They started off in Helenburgh and then moved to Govan. The Rice DNA project sound interesting. Thanks for the info.
Marie
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Check out Ros Davies' page at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/R/Rice.htm
your Rice's are listed.
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Hi Marie,
Just found some more info. I believe Elizabeth Morrow married to John Rice may have had a brother George. My info suggested that he was born c. 1840, but it maybe a George Morrow b. 1834. It maybe possible that he married Anna Rowan in Ballymena in 1870.
I also found a George Morrow marrying Anne Monaghan in Belfast also in 1870 but the Morrow/Rowan marriage have connections to the County Down area of my family line.
Wonder could anyone confirm?
Regards
Terry
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Hi,
Not sure if these are the marriages which you found. The information which I found varies from yours.
14 Aug 1870 George Morrow married Anne Monaghan in Downpatrick Church of Ireland.
22 Jun 1877 Waddell Morrow married Anna Rowan in Brookvale Presbyterian Church, Banbridge.
In both cases the father's name is George Morrow
Regards
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Hi,
Is the George Morrow that I have (b.1834) and that I "presumed" married Anna Rowan in Ballymena, 1870 actually:
Waddell Morrow married to Anna Rowan in Banbridge in 1877.
The George Morrow b. 1834 could be a brother of my gr gr grandfather John Morrow b.1827. father Thomas Morrow/ mother Eleanor Downey. George Morrow died in 1892 aged 58 so is it possible that his name is George Waddell Morrow?
Waddell Morrow & Anna Rowan had children - 2 of which, Waddell emigrated to Canada, George died in Scotland.
Regards
Terry
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Hi,
Don't know if or how this might fit but on 1 Nov 1849 George Waddell married Margaret Morrow in St. Annes C of I , Shankill, Belfast.
Regards
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Hi Kingskerswell,
Sorry I posted this message on the Antrim forum, but maybe more appropriate for county down.
"This is a long shot. Looking for dob and parents of Mary Morrow who was married to a William Field in Killyleagh in 1836. Believe they may have had a son Henry born c.1856."
Family tree follows all roads to County Down via Antrim and Donegal, or so it seems!!
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Hi,
I can find the marriage on the family search site but parents names are not given which was not unusual for marriage records in those days.
Regards