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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Devon => England => Devon Lookup Requests => Topic started by: tilly25 on Sunday 01 November 09 13:25 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find the parents of John Rowe Gerry born 1855 Horrabridge, Devon, died 1916 Devizes, he married Emma Mary Dingle 1859-died 1953 and they had Horace Leonard Gerry born 1889- died1940.
Also wanting to check if they had any other children besides my grandfather Horace Leonard.
Also looking for Emma Mary Dingles mothers maiden name, I know she was called Mary W (middle initial) and was born in Tavistock Devon
Any guidance would be appreciated
Judy
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Hello Judy,
they had no other children by 1901
1901 RG13; Piece: 2102; Folio: 113; Page: 8
24 Caprina Terrace Plymouth
John Rowe Gerry 39 yrs Sergeant of Police b Horrabridge
Emma Mary Gerry wife 38 yrs b Devon Stoke
Horace Leonard Gerry son 11 yrs b Plymouth
Maud Ellen Dingle S in Law 30 yrs Draperess b Stoke
Wm Hoy Tubb boarder 29 yrs Bible Christian Minister b Mariston
good wishes
heywood
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Hi
According to the newly released census they've had no more children other than Horace. The info given in this census simply says one child born one child still living.
Wendy
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Just for ref
1891
John R Gerrey 30 Police constable
Emma M Gerrey 29
Horace L Gerrey 1
Alice Peters 15 Servant
Piece: 1731; Folio 82; Page 10
will now look back for you
Regards Judi
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1891 RG12; Piece: 1731; Folio 82; Page 10
transcribed as Gerrey - John R is 31 yrs
As you can see his age is not consistent with b 1855
A bit difficult at the moment to identify him- perhaps you need the marriage certificate to trace his father. :-\
By looking through censues, a Felix Gerry b Horrabridge shows up so here is a possibility for the family:
1861 RG9; Piece: 1457; Folio: 77; Page: 4
Roborough Cottage Buckland Monachorum
James Frederick Gerrey 37 yrs Copper Miner b Shepston
Nancy Gerrey 35 yrs b Mary Tavy
Phelix Gerrey 14 yrs Working to mine
Martha Gerrey 10 yrs
James Gerrey 8 yrs
Thomas Gerrey 6 yrs
William Gerrey 2 yrs
John Gerrey 12 days
children all born Buckland M.
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Hi
If you look for him in the 1861 and 1871 as John Gerrey bn circa 1861 in Buckland Monachorum you'll find him living in the area/street called the place he later gives as his own birth place.
Wendy
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1871
I think this may be John with parents on the original living at Horrabridge in the address section of the census
James Gerrey 40 Miner Spelpton, Devon, England
Nandi Gerrey 45 Blackdown Mary Irvy, Devon, England
Martha Gerrey 21 Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
James Gerrey 18 Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
Thomas Gerrey 16 Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
William Gerrey 12 Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
John Gerrey 10 Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
William W Bickle 3 months Grandson Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
Mary Ann Bickle 4 daughter ? Buckland Monachorum, Devon, England
Jessie Newcombe 18 visitor Portsmouth
Piece: 2143; Folio: 8; Page: 9;
Hope this helps Regards Judi
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1861
James Frederick Gerrey 37 Copper miner
Nancy Gerrey 35
Philix Gerrey 14 working in mine
Martha Gerrey 10
James Gerrey 8
Thomas Gerrey 6
William Gerrey 2
John Gerrey 12 day
Piece: 1457; Folio: 77; Page: 4;
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1851 HO107; Piece: 1883; Folio: 115; Page: 20
the family are transcribed as George
and going from the place - think this is James in 1841
HO107; Piece 240; Book: 7; Folio: 9; Page: 13
Horrabridge B M
John Gerry 55 yrs Copper Miner not born in county
Ann Gerry 60 yrs -do-
William Gerry 20 yrs Copper Miner -do-
Thomas Gerry 20 yrs -do- -do-
James Gerry 15 yrs -do- born in county
Marriage Free BMD 1846
James Gerry and Nancy Ninkavel as possible spouses
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Lots here for you to think about Judy.
(I love Nancy Ninkavel as a name ;))
Family Search has an extracted birth and baptism for Ann Nankivell 26th december 1826 and 7th Jane 1827 Tavistock, with parents James and Jane.
1841 has a really feint census with James and Jane (transcribed as James) living in ST Mary Tavy which fits with p o b however, I can't see Ann/Nancy - lots of children though.
If you want this I can post it.
1841 HO107; Piece 233; Book: Folio: 9; Page: 13
best wishes
heywood
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Hi
This could be marriage for her parents
Sep 1857
Thomas Dingle Launceston 5c 44
Mary *theridge Palmer Launceston 5c 44
The original could show Witheridge for middli name but not clear
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Hi for ref
Births Dec 1858
Emma Mary Dingle Launceston 5c 39
To confirm her mothers maiden name the birth cert shoud give you both parents names should you want to go that far
regards Judi
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Hi
Thanks everyone for your input I will try and follow this up now
Judy
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Hi
Have managed to get reference numbers to order marriage certificate for John Rowe Gerry, but can't find record of birth with middle name or initial present, would the registers have recorded a middle name or initial ?.
I have looked back at some data that I have and year of birth is 1862 not 1855 (not sure where I got that date from)
Judy
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Hi
Have now got John Rowe Gerry marriage certificate married in 1886 aged 26 years and it states his father was a John Gerry whose occupation was Miner.
looking back at everyones search in the censuses I can't see another John Gerry, unless I'm not looking in the right place.
Judy
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Hi I have now found 1841 census H0107 piece 240 book 7 (on ancestry)
John Gerry age 25 Tin Miner
Ann Gerry age 25
Ann Gerry age 2
All born in Buckland Monachrum, but I can't seem to follow them thru in 1851 on wards on ancestry have also looked on Freecen, don't have access to find my past any help would be appreciated
Judy
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Hello again,
this may be Ann from 1841 but it doesn't help- she is a widow in 1851 - transcribed as George. It is the same page as the one mentioned earlier.
1851 HO107; Piece: 1883; Folio: 115; Page: 20
Horrabridge
Ann Gerry widow 40 ys charwoman b Devonport
Ann Gerry 12 ys works at the mine b Buckland Monochorum
Mary J Gerry 7 ys b -do-
There is also a Rowe family on the same page.
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Thanks for that
Judy
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Hi Heywood
Could you post the following for me- as I can't read it at all on ancestry
1841 has a really feint census with James and Jane (transcribed as James) living in ST Mary Tavy which fits with p o b however, I can't see Ann/Nancy - lots of children though.
If you want this I can post it.
1841 HO107; Piece 233; Book: Folio: 9; Page: 13
Many thanks
Judy
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Is this it? I have Anc. so it is feint for me too so just posting what I see
James (female) has been corrected by two people to read Jenifer/Jennifer. There is a downward stroke in the name - possibly 'f' but I couldn't be sure.
1841 HO107; Piece 233; Book: 4; Folio: 9; Page: 13; Line: 4
James Nankivell 40 ys Miner Lead not born in county
Jane Nankivell 40 ys not born in county
Richard Nankivell 20 ys Miner lead
Mary Nankivell 19 ys
Jane Nankivell 16 ys
James Nankivell 11 ys Miner lead
Eliza Nankivell 10 ys
Grace Nankivell 6 ys
Samuel Nankivell 4 ys
Williams Nankivell 4 ys
Emma Nankivell 3 ys
John Nankivell 10 mnths
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Hi
Thanks for that, I am trying to prove that Nancy Nankivell may have had a first name of Jane- found that information on an ancestry tree that fits in with everything else
Judy
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Was Jane born as Jennifer/Jane Nicholls? 1799-1872?
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Was Jane born as Jennifer/Jane Nicholls? 1799-1872?
Not that I am aware surname as always been Nankivell
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Jennifer/jane was born Nicholls, married Lt James Nankivell 1820. they had a total of 13 children, there are 3 Nancy Nankivells, I'm assuming the one born 1826 and married james Gerry is yours?
Nancy Nankivell
Event Type: Baptism
Christening Date: 27 Apr 1826
Christening Place: Tavistock, Devon
Father's Name: John Nankivell
Mother's Name: Mary Nankivell
The father John married Mary Bawden/Bowden1809 with 7 children that we know of. I'm afraid the Nankivell researchers cannot agree on where the 'John' fits in.
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Yes that is correct.