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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: maryalex on Tuesday 01 December 09 22:06 GMT (UK)
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I have recently started researching a Michael McLoughlin who is said to have come to England from Ballyhaunis. I am hoping to find out the civil parish and R.C. parish and perhaps the townland where he was born. The 1911 England census shows his birthplace as Mayo, Aughamore.
Can anyone tell me if Aughamore and Aghamore are two different places, both near Ballyhaunis, or if Aughamore is just a different spelling of Aghamore?
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there seems to be two townlands named Aghamore listed on the thownland database
http://www.thecore.com/seanruad
Townland Acres Barony Civil Parish PLU
Aghamore 436 Costello Aghamore Swineford
Aghamore 44 Murrisk Oughaval Westport
google map showing one of the townlands, located about 9km north of Ballyhaunis : http://www.rootschat.com/links/07la/
Shane
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Thank you, Shane.
I assume that the Aghamore in Swineford PLU is the one I should be looking at.
The same results come up if I google Aghamore, Mayo or Aughamore, Mayo. Estate agents' advertisements seem to use the Aughamore spelling. The properties advertised are described as being near Ballyhaunis so it looks as if there are two ways of spellings the one place name.
Mary
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should have mentioned that Poor Law Union (PLU) is usually equivalent to registration district used for Civil records.
Shane
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No McLoughlin's are listed in Aghamore townland (which Shane has pinpointed, Swineford registration district) in Griffith's valuation or the 1901 census. If you extend your search to Aghamore parish there were many. If Michael was still at home in 1901 search the census at
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/census.shtml
Parish records begin in 1864, the same year as civil registration. The Civil and RC Parish seemingly have common boundaries.
If you have them, perhaps post Michael's age and father's name on the site.
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Michael McLoughlin was probably born around 1861/1862. He was in England by the time of the 1891 census which shows his age as 29. He was still 29 when he got married in November 1894. His age was shown as 33 in 1901 and 45 in 1911.
I found out yesterday, from his marriage certificate, that his father was James McLoughlin. There are two James McLoughlins on the 1901 census in Aghamore parish who would have been old enough to be Michael's father, one with a wife Ann in Derrygay and one with a wife Mary in Mountain Common. From the online transcript of Aghamore R.C. baptisms, it seems that Ann in Derrygay was Ann Gormalley/Gormally/Gormley and Mary in Mountain Common was Mary Kneafsey.
James McLoughlin & Ann Gormley were the parents of a Michael McLoughlin baptised in October 1877. That cannot be the Michael I am researching so James McLoughlin & Mary Kneafsey are the more likely of those two couples to have been his parents.
There is one surviving child of Michael, a daughter aged 93 who is said to be very confused. I am hoping that she may be able to recall the names of her McLoughlin uncles and aunts and perhaps the name of her grandmother.
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Dear Mary,
I am also researching a Michael McLoughlin, believed to be from Ballyhaunis, are we researching the same person - who is in 1911 census of Rainford, Lancs, gives his birthplace as Mayo, Aughamore? Are we related? He was my great grandfather on my mother's side.
Best wishes,
Mary
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Mary,
Was your great-grandfather married to Jane [Kirkland] and living in Higher Lane, Rainford in 1911? The grandfather of my brother-in-law was.
Mary
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Thank you for replying, Mary. Yes, that is the right family! I'm new to this forum, but I've been researching my tree for a few years, and reached a brick wall with identifying which James McLoughlin was Michael's father (like you, I have a copy of Michael and Jane(Jeannie)'s wedding certificate).
Mary
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Hi
I have been doing family research for just over two years and just noted this thread on this website that I have not previously utilised.
Noted those on this rootschat thread relative to McLoughlin connections and if still applicable to you, James McLoughlin of Mountaincommon, Aughamore was my great great grandfather. I have a lot of associated details relative to the area and the family outlined. Can compare details and investigate connection further. Indeed, noting timeframe on this email thread you may have ratified family connections at this stage
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Hello, nice to hear from someone else! If we've got the right James McLoughlin, we could be 3rd cousins. I haven't really got much closer to ratifying the information! I'd be keen to hear more!
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Hi, noted your email. I hope that I am not presuming or hoping for connectivity but for the last hour I have trying to check all my records to give some indication of connection and although I have a lot of details even the circumstantial evidence looks promising!I will try to be brief and I have more information although some of details were forwarded to me by another cousin in Ireland who was also relayed the details previously. I am hoping that you may have details that relate to Michael McLoughlin that may have some connection to what I will outline. Unfortunately, I cannot confirm that you are connected but it is possible! (I have more details)
I can safely state that James McLoughlin and Mary Kneafsey (both born circa 1830) were my Gr Gr grandparents from Mountaincommon, Aughamore, County Mayo. James's father was called Michael from the same area born circa 1800. Based on details received and researched, I think that I located six children, Patrick, Tom, MaryAnn(Maria), Bridget, Catherine(Katie) and Margaret and now maybe Michael. He would be the oldest boy and a couple of years older than Patrick and likely to be named after his grandfather to follow Irish customs. I can give more details on these possible siblings and wonder was there communications in the early 20th century with family in Ireland?? For instance, all Margaret's boys (Morris) went to Lancashire at some stage from Ireland in the early 20th century! Other married sibling surnames like Morris above are Conboy,Garvey and maybe Glavey??? Mean
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Hi
Was about to add more detail and got cut-off. Just to add that I could send you more details by email. For public confidentiality purposes, I could send you details to your email address.
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Mary,
I got no further with my brother-in-law's genealogy after December 2009. Michael McLoughlin & Jeanie Kirkland were his grandparents. His paternal great-grandfather was James McLoughlin whose wife may have been Mary Kneafsey. You or Clonsk may be able to confirm eventually whether or not she was.
[The earliest paternal ancestors I could find for Jeanie Kirkland were her grandparents but I managed to find four great-grandparents on her mother's side.]
Mary
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Hi
Just to confirm that I am related to James McLaughlin and Mary Kneafsey. I have details on this family that I have forwarded to maryFMcC. Can forward to your email address. I cannot 100% confrm that Michael McLoughlin is a son of james McLoughlin/Mary Kneafsey but getting close relative to circumstantial detail so far. Need extra information as illustrated by a sporting detail to 'push the ball over the line'!
Please feel free to forward an email address to me if you wish.
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Hello
Just seen this thread and registered on the site.
Hope I’m doing this correctly. 😊
My name is Harry McLoughlin. I am the son of Gerard McLoughlin who was born in the family house on Higher Lane in Rainford in 1919. His father was Michael McLoughlin who married Jane McLoughlin (formerly Kirkland). My grandfather, Michael, died before I was born but I have fond memories of my grandmother Jane who lived, I understand, to the age of 95. I was always told, as a child, that my dad’s dad came from Galway but that’s all I know.
I would love to hear from anyone who can tell me any information about my Irish roots.
Thanks.
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Oh my goodness Harry, I've been looking for you! :D You are my mother's cousin! I had no idea where you were living though. I couldn't remember your own mother's maiden name - do I remember rightly that she was Dutch? I have pictures of you with my Mum (Theresa McLoughlin) when you were a young toddler, and one with you as a boy and me as a baby!!! See attached.
I'm very sorry to have to tell you that Mummy passed away last February, just two weeks after my Dad.
Please could you message me privately, and I'll send you my email address?
Much love,
Mary McCarthy, nee Galsworthy
Hello
Just seen this thread and registered on the site.
Hope I’m doing this correctly. 😊
My name is Harry McLoughlin. I am the son of Gerard McLoughlin who was born in the family house on Higher Lane in Rainford in 1919. His father was Michael McLoughlin who married Jane McLoughlin (formerly Kirkland). My grandfather, Michael, died before I was born but I have fond memories of my grandmother Jane who lived, I understand, to the age of 95. I was always told, as a child, that my dad’s dad came from Galway but that’s all I know.
I would love to hear from anyone who can tell me any information about my Irish roots.
Thanks.
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hi there~ i found this thread googling james mcloughlin and mary knavsey- and found you! i see this thread is from 2011. i hope you still answer. i would love to speak with you as i believe catherine is my ancestor but due to everyone leaving ireland to come to the USA the threads have been lost. i hope to hear back :)
~marya