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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: eagleye on Wednesday 09 December 09 06:32 GMT (UK)
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No. 7 Queen Street, Barnsley, The White Swan Inn
Anyone know anything about it?
At no 3, Queen Street was a Chemist and Druggist (1881 census)
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William Hawksworth is listed in Pigots Directory 1829 and 1834 giving William Hawksworth as landlord. George Cavard is listed as a druggist, Queens St, in 1829. The picture below shows the Three Cranes on the left with the White Swan facing it. If you know Barnsley, the policeman is standing outside what is now Marks and Spencers. :) So some local person tell me - what was the little dark pub (my mother told me never to go in them :-[) about 30 yards down from the policeman called when the White Swan went?
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Wine Shades ??
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Ooh Carolanne - Yes that's the one! Surely you never..................... ;)
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Nah I'm too young lol and if any of the pubs in Barnsley town centre ever waited on my custom they would have gone bancrupt been knocked down and now would be blocks of flats opsssss sorry apartments lol lol
Glad to be of help.
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Thanks for the photograph.
I've googled but can find out nothing about its history. Particularly interested in the year 1881.
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Is it the family there that you are researching? If so try Kellys Directory
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No, it's the pub I want to know about. It's history and reputation etc.
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Suggest Local History Dept at Barnsley Central Library then. Queen St is in no 3 of EG Tasker's Barnsley Streets and that's the only one missing from my set :'(
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Yes, one day I might be able to visit the library again ......
Thanks for your interest.
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Next time I go in I'll take a look (written it down in Things to do Book) and let you know if I find anything
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That's very kind of you, thanks.
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Just seen this thread - Pubs of Barnsley
http://www.barnsleycamra.org.uk/thebar/2008/jun-jul-2008.pdf
Page 5 A Few to remember
Woollwy
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I haven't forgotten Eagleye - was going to be my job until the snow came - will get into library asap
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I am especially interested because my Hawksworth family owned the White Swan until the 1860's when my gr gr grandfather George (born in the Inn "yard" ) decided to farm instead. My gr grandfather Thomas Robert Hawksworth was more an enjoyer of pubs than inkeeper...
It was called just the Swan Inn by the 1890s. I believe the Barnsley Chronicle did some articles on this including the photo. Does anyone remember a date for it? Would love to hear more... !!!
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Hi Ebch,
For some reason I am not receiving e-mail notification for replies to my posts so hadn't seen your latest till now. (Maybe I clicked 'unsubscribe' by mistake)
Thanks for your interest.
I'm particularly interested in the White Swan and the Chemist and Druggist at no.3 for the year 1881. An ancestor was a servant at the Chemist's run - or owned - by a Joseph Mitchell (from census).
Happy New Year!
Eagleye
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Happy New Year - read a piece about Queen St in 1832 Whit Tuesday the Sough Dyke that ran through town, after a furious storm ' turned into a furious river and was waist high by the time it reached Queen St. Much damage was done, pigs drowned in their sties, cellars filled up. May Day Green was a lake and tradesmen lost heavily, especially the grocers'.
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I am especially interested because my Hawksworth family owned the White Swan until the 1860's when my gr gr grandfather George (born in the Inn "yard" ) decided to farm instead. My gr grandfather Thomas Robert Hawksworth was more an enjoyer of pubs than inkeeper...
It was called just the Swan Inn by the 1890s. I believe the Barnsley Chronicle did some articles on this including the photo. Does anyone remember a date for it? Would love to hear more... !!!
I have just traced my family back to the White Swan too. William Hawksworth was my 3rd great grandfather. I am descended from William and Susanna (née Stead) Hawksworth's daughter Ellen Amelia who also ran pubs with her husband Frank Taylor, namely the Fountain at Ingbirchworth near Penistone and the Red Lion in Rotherham. Ellen Amelia's sister Hannah Eliza ran the White Bear Inn at Hallgate, Doncaster, with her husband George Wilmot, so it seems spirits ran in the family :) William's wife Susanna Stead was disowned by her Quaker family in 1817, two years before she married William, who - besides being an innkeeper - had an illegitimate son and was possibly not the sort of company Susanna was expected to keep. When William died in 1853, son James was present and aged 18 and probably too young to carry on the business, though he was described as an 'inn ser' in the 1851 census. In that census, son George and his family occupied the record next to William and Susanna's and could have been living in the same premises or a nearby building. As Wendy says, he was an agricultural labourer in that census and did not pick up the publican's baton. William's wife Susanna died in 1855 and was perhaps not well enough in 1853 to continue at the White Swan - I have found instances around that time where wives did keep the business going, so it was a possibility. The above references to Pigott's Directory is interesting and that is my next line of research. Thank You!
Any info regarding the Hawksworths or the White Swan would be appreciated. My family tree is on Ancestry at:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/175668224/family?cfpid=262287837547
if such links are allowed. Please get in touch there too for more info or if you have anything you would like to share.
Thanks.