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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dunbartonshire => Topic started by: fortitude on Saturday 19 December 09 22:40 GMT (UK)
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Agnes Wheldon Dunlop was born Oct.19,1917 in Helensburgh to Daniel Dunlop and Elizabeth Barr, she was living in Clydebank in 1951 and married to a A. MacDonald. I found a marriage for an Agnes Wheldon Dunlop to a Harry Smith McGregor in West Kilpatrick, 1937. Would anyone know if this is the same Agnes?
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If you lookup the full details of the 1937 marriage on Scotlands People it will give her parents names - I doubt there were many Agnes Wheldon Dunlop's so it's quite likely it was the same one
Just remembered - you can only view up to 1933 on SP
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Thank you for your reply, I just was hoping to luck out and find someone who had knowledge of Agnes. Might have to order extract.
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Hi :)
If it's any help, I can find only one marriage on SP (1855-2006) between an Agnes Dunlop and an A M*cdonald but that was in 1917, so not your Agnes :-\
Gadget
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Thanks for the reply, maybe she went by McGregor if she remarried.
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I did try McGregor too but nothing post 1937 :)
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hi :)
national archives of scotland(NAS) has -
harry s mcgregor v agnes w dunlop or mcgregor & another : divorce 1955
ref. - CS258/39313
perhaps agnes was living with a. macdonald in 1951 but not married , at least
to each other :-\
ev
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Thank you very much for the information. As far as her death goes, I have her dying in Australia, 1995, no info on husband.
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Wondering if Agnes and Harry Smith McGregor had any children.
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Thank you very much for the information. As far as her death goes, I have her dying in Australia, 1995, no info on husband.
I assume that you've got the cert - what does it say - any info about when she came over etc. and what was her name on the death cert?
Maybe we can check on the emigrant ships lists :)
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Sorry, I just have her dying in Australia in 1995, no other info. Is there a site for passengers to Australia?
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Online Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
but also I thought that the Australian death certs gave quite a lot of info.
Gadget
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Hi Fortitude
What name was used on her death cert?
Gadget
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I don't have death cert, got date second hand.
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I've tried Agnes Dunlop and Agnes McGregor and Agnes McDonald (with variations) on the outward passenger lists to 1960 but nothing promising is coming up :-\
Do you know of anyone else related who went to Australia?
Gadget
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As far as I know most of the family came to Canada, a sister Victoria Emily was still in Scotland in 1951 and a brother Thomas in England in 1951. I got this from their mothers obit. From what I have got, the father Daniel Wheldon Dunlop Sr. died in Scotland in 1945.
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Hello fortitude
I know this is an old posting but I have just found it. I have a connection to Agnes Wheldon Dunlop through my father's grandmother Mary Wheldon and have some information, which might be of interest. However as it is possible that living people are involved the information would have to be by PM.
Wait to hear from you
isk
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My Mothers name could be... Agnes Wheldon Dunlop, Jessy Wheldon Dunlop Born Circa 1911...Helensburgh "Scotland". I do not know fathers Name , Wife,s Name.. may have been "Jessy". Issue: Boys. Tommy,Dan,Eddy, Bobby ...Girls.. Emily Victoria. Emily went Blind at an early age & is also Hearing Impaired may have attended " Royal Institute for Deaf and Blind Children
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Agnes Wheldon Dunlop was born Oct.19,1917 in Helensburgh to Daniel Dunlop and Elizabeth Barr would be my Great Aunt.
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Nan had two children. A daughter (who I believe is now deceased) who lived in Australia and a son, who lived in Australia with his mother, Nan. Nan was divorced once and married twice.
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Daniel married Elizabeth McCourty BARR "Bessie",
daughter of Alexander Archibald BARR and Elizabeth Holly KELLY,
on 31 Dec 1910 in Renfrew, Renfrewshire, Scotland.
Bessie was born 1888 in Renfrew, Renfrewshire, Scotland.
She died 1 Oct 1951 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
They had the following children:
Thomas DUNLOP "Tommy" was born 14 Apr 1910 in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
He died 10 May 1973 in Hillingdon, London, England.
(My Grandmother):
Elizabeth Wholly Barr DUNLOP was born 28 Apr 1911
Died 11 Feb 1981 in Hamilton, Ontario Canada
(My Great Uncle Dan)
Daniel Wheldon DUNLOP Jr. was born 14 Nov 1913 and died 1995.
(My Great Aunt Nan)
Agnes Wheldon DUNLOP was born 19 Oct 1917 and died 1995.
(My Great Aunt Vicki)
Emily Victoria DUNLOP was born 13 Jan 1921 in Rhu/Row, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
Date of Death: Unknown
(My Great Uncle Archie)
Alexander Archibald Barr DUNLOP was born 23 Jan 1923
and died 20 Jan 2010.
Robert DUNLOP "Bobby" was born 13 Apr 1931 in Helensburgh, Dumbartonshire, Scotland.
He died 11 Mar 1968.
Residence: 1951, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Edward Barr DUNLOP "Eddy" was born 15 May 1932 in Rhu/Row, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
Unknown if Living
Residence: 1951, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
1955, London, England.
Hope this helps !
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Second Generation
Elizabeth Wholly Barr DUNLOP "Bessie" (Daniel Wheldon) was born 28 Apr 1911 in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire, Scotland. She died 11 Feb 1981 in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada and was buried in McAfee Cemetery, Bertie Twp., Welland Co., Ont., Canada.
Bessie married William James JOHNS. William was born 18 Mar 1900 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. He died 4 Jan 1984 in Fort Erie, Ontario, Canada and was buried in McAfee Cemetery, Bertie Twp., Welland Co., Ont., Canada.
They had one child:
Elizabeth (Margaret) JOHNS was born 1 Aug 1935 (Living)
Fort Erie, Ontario Canada
Daniel Wheldon DUNLOP Jr. "Danny" (Daniel Wheldon) was born 14 Nov 1913 in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire, Scotland. He died 1995.
Residence: 1951, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Danny married Mary A. MACDONALD.
They had the following children:
Daniel Wheldon DUNLOP (Living - Alberta Canada)
**Agnes Wheldon DUNLOP "Nan" (Daniel Wheldon)
was born 19 Oct 1917 in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire, Scotland. She died 1995 in Australia.
Nan married (1) Harry Smith MCGREGOR,
(son of James Johnstone MCGREGOR and Mary TIMPANY)
on 22 Dec 1937 in West Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
The marriage ended in divorce.
Harry was born 3 Feb 1916 in West Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
He died 24 Sep 1994 in Clydebank, Old Kilpatrick, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
Nan also married (2) A. MACDONALD.
They had the following children:
Agnes MACDONALD (Deceased-DOB/Date of Death: Unknown)
McDougall MACDONALD (DOB Unknown/Living Unknown)
Alexander Archibald Barr DUNLOP "Archie" (Daniel Wheldon)
was born 23 Jan 1923 in Helensburgh, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
He died 20 Jan 2010 in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada and
was buried 1 Feb 2010 in Queens Park Cemetery, Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
Archie married Alice Jeane MACDONALD (sister to Dan's wife Mary A. MACDONALD) about 1951.
Alice was born 2 Jun 1924 in Sibbald, Alberta, Canada.
She died 19 Oct 2008 in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada and was buried 25 Oct 2008.
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Hi Cheleia
Welcome to RootsChat :)
Wow, what a lot of info for fortitude. Can I ask you a favour please? I think, from what I read of your details, that likely many of the people you have mentioned have now passed away as you have included death dates for many. For those that you haven't, can you please edit any details for those that may still be alive?
RootsChat's policy is to protect living people's details and privacy at all times.
Thank you, and welcome again to RC.
Monica
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Update:
Emily Victoria DUNLOP was born 13 Jan 1921 in Rhu/Row, Dunbartonshire, Scotland.
Date of Death: 2008 in Helensburgh, Scotland. (Just found that out this evening during my research)
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Agnes Wheldon Dunlop (Nan), after her divorce from Harry Smith McGregor married Kenneth Kennedy MacDonald ( died 1st April 1972 in Bankstown NSW and was cremated at Rockwood Crematorium and had 3 Children , Agnes (also known as Nan) born 26th February 1942, married John Mitchell (deceased November 1995) and is living in Lorn, NSW, Australia. Kenneth born 1945 died 1951 Scotland, aged 6, and Colin Douglas ( Called Dougal) born 2nd July 1950. Agnes Wheldon MacDonald died 24th June 1996 at her residence in Hope Valley, South Australia and was cremated at Enfield Memorial Park in Adelaide South Australia.
Colin Douglas married Judi Dawne (Russell) on 21st January 1995 at Scared Heart Catholic Church in Flinders Park, South Australia and they had a son Kenneth Alexander MacDonald (Known as Alex) on 28th January 2002. Colin and Judi live in Christies Beach, South Australia.
Agnes Wheldon Dunlop and Kenneth Kennedy MacDonald are believed to have been married in Scotland date unknown in a civil ceremony due to her being divorced.
Agnes Wheldon Dunlop and Harry Smith McGregor had a son also called Harry and after the divorce Harry (the father) was given custody of the son, we believe this was due to Agnes having an affair.
Agnes Wheldon Dunlop and Kenneth Kennedy MacDonald traveled from the UK on the Arcadia and berthed at Cirqually Quay in 1962.
As you can see Agnes Wheldon Dunlop wanted to leave the past behind her when she traveled to Australia and travelled under the name Jessie MacDonald and even gave a false date of birth
MacDONALD Kenneth Kennedy born 28 February 1908; Jessie born 10 September 1909; Agnes born 26 February 1942; Colin Douglas born 2 July 1950; travelled per ARCADIA departing UK on 16 March 1962 under the United Kingdom and Australian Government Assisted Passage Scheme.
This information came from this site http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3377317&isAv=N
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Agnes Wheldon Dunlop was born Oct.19,1917 in Helensburgh to Daniel Dunlop and Elizabeth Barr, she was living in Clydebank in 1951 and married to a A. MacDonald. I found a marriage for an Agnes Wheldon Dunlop to a Harry Smith McGregor in West Kilpatrick, 1937. Would anyone know if this is the same Agnes?
Agnes Wheldon Dunlop born on the above date and married? to Kenneth Kennedy Macdonald was living in Dalmuir [nr.Clydebank] in 1951 and continued to do so until emmigrating to Australia in March 1962.
She was married to a Harry Mcgregor of West Kilpatrick in 1937 and had a son Harry born 1939?. Harry's father got custody of the child.
Agnes Mitchell [ne Macdonald] born 1942 to Agnes W. Dunlop and K.K.Macdonald. Married John Chalmers Mitchell, Dec. 17th 1977 [deceased 1995] and lives in NSW, Australia
Two other chidren were born to Agnes [Nan] and K.Macdonald: Kenneth 1946? [deceased] and Colin Dougal 1950