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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: Kylie B on Tuesday 05 January 10 07:15 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help????
I am tracing a John Meadows Wood
- he was married in Madingley in Cambridge in 1775 aged 26; he was listed as being a Gentleman of Norwich
-there are no suitable baptisms in Cambridge or Norwich for him
-I have found on Ancestry a Pallots baptism of a John Meadows Wood in 1848, so about the right year,
- It lists his father as Reverend Wood
- The baptism was in Walpole Chapel
I have googled Walpole CHapel and found lots of references to a non-conformist chapel there....but I cannot find out anything more.
Was Rev Wood a Reverend of the Chapel, or somewhere else?
Who was he- and who was his wife, the mother of John Meadows Wood?
Were there any siblings?
What happened to Rev Wood and his wife?
If anyone can help I would be so very grateful!!!
Kylie B
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You are in the wrong county, Kylie - you should be looking in Suffolk.
John Meadows Wood was the son of Samuel and Mary Wood of Framlingham. The register of the Old Unitarian or Presbyterian Meeting House in Framlingham has a handy list of their children:
(dates are birthdates)
Samuel 9/4/1745
Sarah 9/8/1746
Abigail 18/7/1747
John Meadows 19/1/1748
Philip 15/6/1750
Mary 13/6/1751
Thomas 26/11/1754
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Rev Samuel Wood married the daughter of Rev John Meadows of Needham
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07s5/
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Hi Shaun
Thank you very much....sorry about being in the wrong County!
Can you tell me where I might access more info from the Framlington register- is it avail online?
And where can I look for more info on the various Rev's- Wood and Meadows?
Thought I would check with you first, and then post in the correct County!
Thanks again
Kylie B
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Will send you a PM
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Hi
I will move this post to the Suffolk board
Regards
Valda
co-moderator Surrey board
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Hello Kylie,
If you ever need to check out churches/chapels in Suffolk have a look on www.suffolkchurches.co.uk
John and I were leaders on a day course in Fram for SLHC and the Unitarian church was a part of our walk. It is a very plain and peaceful chapel still being used.
I have Framlingham PRs if you need a look up.
Also my husband and a small team of researchers are busy with the Framlingham Photographic Archive web site which will go live in the next few weeks, lots of wonderful old photographs of Fram.
In the meantime you will find some historical notes at www.framlingham.com
Pat ...
SLHC - www.slhc.org.uk
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Hi Pat
Thank you so much for these links- and I look forward to the photographic site- that sounds wonderful!!
I would be very grateful for some Fram PR checks- thank you so much!
Would you be able to check for baptisms to Samuel and Mary Wood circa 1745-1760. I have a list from someone else but there is a problem with 2 of the dates...in that there are not enough months between!!! Thinking there may have been a transcription error into the record he had.
Also- a marriage for this couple (Samuel Wood and Mary Meadows) before 1745.
Lastly- Samuel Wood (of the couple above) was born I guess, around 1710- I understand his father was also Rev Samuel Wood, but mother is unknown, so I would be delighted if we could find his baptism!
Many many thanks again Pat- Look forward to hearing from you
Kindest regards
Kylie B
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Looking again at the original baptism entry for John Meadows Wood at Walpole independent chapel, it looks to me like that took place Feb 4 1749, with a birthdate of 19 January 1749 .
I think this has indeed been mistranscribed as 1748 in the later listing in the Framlingham register.
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Brilliant Shaun- that works much better with my biology calculations!!!
Lets lock in 1749 then!!
Kylie B
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Hello Kylie,
As John Meadows was the only child of Sam & Mary born in the period 1 Jan - 24 March I suspect the query as to whether he was born in 1748 or 1749 is more to do with the change from the Julian to Gregorian calendar than a mistranscription.
Samuel Wood was minister at the Dissenting Meeting House in Framlingham 1740 to 1756. The list of his children's baptisms are listed together in the Fram records under the heading 'The Children of Saml & Mary Wood born at Framlingham'. Given the way in which they appear in the book, the children may well have been bap. at Walpole Independent Chapel (later k/a Congregational). Samuel & Abigail were baptised by 'my Father Wood', Sarah & Philip by 'my 'cous. Wood', Mary & Thomas 'by myself' and John Meadows by 'Mr Crompton'. As Rev Samuel Wood's father was Samuel Wood & he also had a cousin Dr Samuel Wood of Norwich, & there was a Rev Wood minister to the dissenting congregation in Rendham (abt 5 mls from Fram) at this time (wonder if it was the father of SW?) it would appear you have a lot of Woods to go through to find a tree..ha! ha!
Within the main record of baptisms there are two other Woods, (n/k if these are related)
Mary d. of Sam & Mary Wood of Framlingham b. 2 June 1751 & bap July 1 following.
Thomas s. of Thomas Wood & Sarah of Dallinghoe, Farmer b. 25 Oct 1787 bap 24 Dec 1787.
Denominational boundaries within Dissenting congregations were not so hard & fast at this time so the original dissenting chapels & meeting houses which now are United Reform/Congregational/Unitarian/Baptist may have been interacting with each other. e.g. Walpole (Independent) & Framlingham(Presbyterian/Independant/Baptist)
Rev Meadows was minister to the Dissenting Congregation at Needham Market and it may be worth noting that in the 1700s the principal parish church where marriages would have taken place was at Barking: the church in Needham Market was a Chapel of Ease.
Just as an aside, in 1755 Joseph Priestley (discoverer of Oxygen & Unitarian Minister,) came to Needham Market as an assistant & potential replacement to the elderly Rev John Meadows. Eventually he was kicked out because of his Arian beliefs!
Good wooding!
Hephzibah
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Hi Hephzibah
Thanks for all that info....I have to admit to getting very confused now with far too many Samuel Wood and John Meadows!!
It seems Samuel Wood Jnr (minister in Framlington) married Mary Meadows (youngest dau of Rev John Meadows).
His father was also Rev Samuel Wood of Woodbridge- he died in 1748, and a nephew Samuel Wood preached at his funeral sermon (presumably he is the cousin Wood who baptised some of the children)......but I dont know who his father was (ie. the brother of Samuel Wood Snr), and I dont know who was the wife of Samuel Wood Snr.
So my hunt is now for:
Wife of Samuel Wood Snr (minister of Woodbridge)
Parents of Samuel Wood Snr, who was born in 1683
Siblings of Samuel Wood Snr- including a brother who then had son Samuel Wood of Norwich!
Then I will try to decipher the Meadows from the Woods!!
Kylie B
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Hello Kylie - still skipping across the Meadows & into the Wood!
I'm sure you have found it but just in case you haven't, the Woodbridge Quay Meeting House records are all on the internet. Bad news is that only the ministers & burials are listed in the 18th century. Samuel Wood was minister 1736 - 1748. In the burials there is a Martha Wood buried 21 April 1739 but she may have been a widow which counts her out as wife of Sam snr.
Just to note, it's FramlingHAM - Framlington is, I think, in the USA!
Hephzibah
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Kylie, I should be able to find time to carry out some lookups tomorrow. By the way, I have been researching Fram since 1971 (when I became engaged to husband).
The names you are researching are not uncommon in the area, I have come across a couple of Woods and Meadows in our family through the years.
Back soon with some PRs. ;D
Pat ...
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From Boyds marriage index
1744 / WOOD SAM / MEADOWS MARY / BARKING / SUFFOLK
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Hi Sue- thanks very much for that marriage...I have never heard of Boyds before- where can I search it??
Hi Pat- thank you so much, I am really looking forward to seeing what the PR's have for me, and am so grateful for your time. THanks for the link to the Fram page too- it looks like a lovely village town. Pity I am halfway across the world as I would very much like to visit. I look forward to ANYTHING more you can tell me about my Wood and Meadows families and their links to Fram!!
Kylie B
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Hello there
I have just been re-reading the funeral sermon of Rev Samuel Wood, who died on 28 Sept 1748.
It gives his age as 65- meaning he was born about 1683.
It mentions a sister departing this life suddenly and unexpectedly just a week before Samuel died....
And it seems to infer, from its very brief referrals to the family, that his wife was still alive....but I can't be absolutely sure.
So what I really need now is a baptism for son- Samuel Wood Jnr- to confirm his mothers name,
And Samuel Wood Snr's own baptism from circa 1683 for his parents, which might then allow us to find some siblings, inlcuding the brother who named his son Samuel too!!
Pat- Are any of these events I am looking for amongst the Fram PR's you have?
Otherwise what parishes might we need to look at- Lavenham? Barking?
Kylie B
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Unsurprisingly no help from the PRs for St Michael and All Angels - so far :-)
Just one WOODS at the moment in baptisms
on 11th September 1740 a daughter Mary to Thomas and Dorothy Woods
http://www.congregational.org.uk/
the web site for the UK Congregational churches
http://www.dwlib.co.uk/dwlib/index.html
knowing that Dr William's Library is the place with holdings on non-conformist protestant records, I tried to see if any help there for you - however
http://www.dwlib.co.uk/congregational/collections/union.html
this page says that no records are available only for a handful of London churches
Will keep trying :D
Pat ...
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THanks Pat-
I am very grateful, and still have my fingers crossed they will appear in your PR's somewhere!
Kylie
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Hello Kylie B,
I came away from lunch with a friend today with the names of two websites which may be of interest to you.
I've googled 'The Surman Index' and it is a mine of information giving Samuel Wood being at Wivenhoe Essex, Lavenham Suffolk, Bishops Stortford, Essex & Woodbridge - with all the dates...and even a Samuel Wood at Rendham!
The index was transcribed by Dr David Wykes of the Dr Williams' Library.
The other site , google 'non-parochical bmd' has indexes of bmds. However the name Samuel Wood was quite common so there is rather a lot of them! Good news is though, that you can subscribe to this site to get further into the indexes.
Hephzibah
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Hephzibah- thank you very much!
Have Googled the Sumane Index and found lots of clues. I now have dates and some decendency- with blanks needing filling in of course!! Am going to do a new post on the Norwich board as that is where the folk with dates lead to.
It also confirms that Samuel Wood of Fram was the YOUNGEST son of Samuel Wood of Woodbridge, so there are definately siblings there to find. It also says he left his ministry in 1756 and moved to London to study Physic, and died of smallpox shortly after....so another train to follow. Might post on the London board for that one!
Kylie