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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Suffolk => Topic started by: Kylie B on Tuesday 12 January 10 05:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find out more about the wives and children of Rev. John Meadows 1622-1697.
He was minister in Ousden Suffolk, until he was expelled from his ministry in 16??. Apparently he then moved to London where he studied Physic and died in 1697.
I have found a family tree online that lists him as having 3 wives (Anne Rant, Sarah Fairfax and Anna Beaumont) and I have found an extract of Anna Meadows nee Beaumont's will in 1707 that seems to support this.
Can anyone tell me where I might find a copy of John Meadows will, which I am hoping might give better clarification of which wife the children belonged to, and what became of them??
Any other pointers to where I might find out more information on the life and family of Rev John Meadows would be much appreciated too!
Kylie B
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Hello Kylie,
You may find the info on this site of interest
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Dictionary_of_National...37.../205
I have a passing interest in Sarah Fairfax, the second wife of John Meadows and the mother of John Meadows Jnr, (1676 -1757)
Sarah was the daughter of Benjamin Fairfax (Jnr) & niece of Rev John Fairfax who was the first minister at what is now the Ipswich Unitarian Meeting House . Her grandfather Rev Benjamin Fairfax (1592-1676) was an ancester of the husband of one of my 'once removed' cousins! I understand Kate Middleton also has the same ancestor!!!
As John Meadows (Snr) 3rd wife was a Beaumont I wonder if she was related to the Beaumonts at Woodbridge
The Fairfaxs & Meadows were all Bartholomeans.
Sorry if I'm being a bit confusing.
Hephzibah
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Hi Kylie
I have just completed three months research on the Meadows family. I have the full family tree, photos of memorials in Witnesham Church etc and on loan a copy of the Suffolk Bartholomews (a history of the Rev John Meadows by Edgar Taylor) which has the Meadows and Fairfax family trees. There is plenty on the Internet on the Meadows/Pierrepont/Manvers families. Probably best if we make e-mail contact?
Mike
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Hi Hephzibah
I could find the page you mentioned- what am I searching for on Wikisource?
Can you tell me more- or where to find out more- about the Bartholomeans please?? I am reading a 'Domestic and Religious history of John Meadows' I found on the internet a couple of nights ago, and it uses this term also..but I must admit I dont know its meaning...
Anne/a Beaumont- 3rd wife of John Meadows lists her father as Mr John Beaumont in her will, and also makes mention of sisters with the names Elliston, Luffkin and Blomfield, and brothers John, Michael, Jonathon and William, and another- John Sparrow. It makes no mention of their locality...but it is only an extract, not the will in full.
It also lists her daughters as Mary Meadows, Sarah Wright and Rebecca Meadows- 'as mentioned in my husbands will'. THis one has me confused, as I thought the daughter Sarah married David Martineau....so where does the Wright name come in?? And do you know if John Meadows had any children with his first and third wives- or were all the children of Sarah Fairfax?
Thanks!! Dont worry about confusing me- I am already pretty confused with this lot of woods and meadows!
Kylie B
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Hello Kylie,
Sorry about the Wiki source: I tried to find it again & failed miserably. However, by now you have prob. had contact with Mike and have been able to get a tree...or two (a start to a Wood!!)
The Dictionary of National Biography (DNB) has a very detailed entry for John Meadows b.1622; son of Daniel Meadowe & Elizabeth Smith, his younger brother was Sir Philip Meadows.
The only children he had were 7 from his marriage to Sarah Fairfax (4 sons, 3 daughters) One of his sons, Philip, was mayor of Norwich, - Mike's tree will tell you whether this was father of a Sam.
I'm reluctant to give website details again so would suggest that you google 'Act of Uniformity 1662 + Wiki' for info. re Bartholomeans. Very basically, as a way of getting puritan preachers out of the Church of England, the Act of Uniformity required all clergy to conform to everything in the Book of Common Prayer; those that refused were ejected from their living (churches)
on 24 Aug 1662, St Bartholomew's Day....hence Bartholomeans & hence non-conformists! . It was only after the Act of Toleration in 1669 that non-conformists/dissenters were allowed to build their own places of worship.
Hephzibah
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Thanks Hephzibah!
Will do some Google searches and see how I go
Kylie B
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Mike Fenn. Are you still around. I would be interested in your three months of research.
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Hephzibah. I am confused on your dates. You have Sarah Fairfax (1612- 1678) and then say her Grandfather was Benjamin (senior) and his dates are 1592 - 1676. How can her Grandfather be only 20 years older than her? Those dates would work better for her Father than her Grandfather. Any ideas on that or do you have other support?
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I found this WIKI:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Meadows,_John_(DNB00)
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Mike Fenn. Are you still around. I would be interested in your three months of research.
Yes still here. Happy to help but would prefer to correspond by e-mail but not too familiar with Rootschat to set this up
Mike
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hello geelsu,
Cannot see anywhere that I've put dates for Sarah Fairfax; am I missing something? (not even had a sherry yet!) Please would you point them out.
The dates I have for Sarah are 1654-1688 but as these are only from the IGI, verification from other sources would be required.
Hephzibah
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Hi. It is on page one of this forum thread. WOW We now have two pages. :) Actually when I look at it you DID NOT list Sarah's dates. Sorry about that. I had those dates. So you have 1654 - 1688 which makes perfect since of Ben senior being here Grandfather. So it is correct to say Sarah Fairfax (1654 - 1688) married John Meadows ( 1622 - 1697 ) and her Grandpaw was Benjamin (1592 - 1676)???
Here is what you had: "I have a passing interest in Sarah Fairfax, the second wife of John Meadows and the mother of John Meadows Jnr, (1676 -1757)
Sarah was the daughter of Benjamin Fairfax (Jnr) & niece of Rev John Fairfax who was the first minister at what is now the Ipswich Unitarian Meeting House . Her grandfather Rev Benjamin Fairfax (1592-1676) was an ancester of the husband of one of my 'once removed' cousins!"
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e-mail doesn't seem to work?
Mike
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Mike Fenn, I was born a Meadows, and I have traced my ancestry back to Rev Meadows. I would love to contact you via email about the research you've done,
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Mike Fenn,
I would very much like to learn what you found out about Witnesham Church!
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please do not publish your private email on the public internet, this is not safe practice and is how spammers pick up on your details. If you wish to discuss living folk you can use the private message function but again you do not need to give away an email if you do not want to.
Keep safe
Sarah ;)
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Hi, Just wondering if anyone has come across a William Meadows who died in 1726 and desired to be buried "in" St Iberius Church Wexford, Ireland which may indicate he was also a Rev. He would have come to Ireland with Cromwell and, his descendants married vicars daughters in quite a few generations. I can not find anything about where he came from.
Our Meadows lineage is in Burke's Landed Gentry 2012 but has no indication as to where our William came from.