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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: joanna dot on Monday 24 December 07 09:12 GMT (UK)
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This topic has been split off from the guidelines on Tracing Living Relatives, in order to keep the original thread a bit clearer and easier to follow.
By all means add any new ideas here and the Mods will incorporate them to the Guidance thread for you - thanks!
Thank you Pam for your quick reply ,I should have known it would be too soon to give any details regarding my cousins .I will try some oher way .I will get in touch with my brother and see if he knows .All the very best for xmas and a happy new year to all the team .You all do a great job looking things up for us for which we are truelly grateful Thank You Joan :) ;D :-*
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Hello, can you help me? I have tried a couple of posts trying to find anyone who might know anything about my family (Gomersall) which originated in Barnsley. I have had no responses and wondered if I was doing something wrong.
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Hey - well the important thing is to give as much information as you can (like where they lived and when, occupation, names , BMD dates etc) but be careful about sensitive information, especially as there may be other living relatives looking them up.
I checked on freebmd.rootsweb.com for Gomersall in Barnsley and there are only 170 results for ALL births, marriages and deaths (Gomersall) in Barnsley between 1850 and 1932. This is a tiny amount so is a good starting point (unfortunately they don't have earlier than 1850 transcribed).
If you know their forenames and when they were there, you may well find them on this list. If you do, the list will give you a GRO number so that you can order their birth/marriage/death certificates. (Marriage certs are good ones to look up as you can be more certain that you have the right person as TWO names are involved).
Hope this helps?
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Thanks.
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I must be thick as a brick because I find this all so confusing.
If a private individual has allowed his/her name to be published in a newpaper along with personal information, in a telephone directory, a business directory or on the internet does it not become public information?? And as such why are we not allowed to supply the information to someone requesting it?
There is a fine line here that I just can't see.....the fault is probably my own, but I always thought that once you allowed your information to become public....it is just that...public information.
Please explain this in a way which I can finally understand.
Thanks
dollylee
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It depends upon the information that you are going to disclosed. You just have to be very careful about it. Some information are beneficial to others, some can be used in a wrong way. As long as you won't give your personal information such as your phone number, credit card number, home address which can be use with bad faith. Names, dates, places of birth can easily be a public information because these are informations which you use let say to contact persons.
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I should state my latest example of not being sure if I could post information to the grandson of an individual I had found.....exacly where the grandson expected him to be found.
The individual was listed, for the world to see in a Henderson Directory which is a public directory. The information was all there including siblings and possible parents who also submitted their information to the Directory. These people may still be alive and Rootschat discourages posts including living people. I understand their reasoning if individual have not already agreed to make their information public.
I just don't understand that if the person themselves was willing to put the information in a public reference why we are not allowed to post this non-confidential (as it is public) information.
dollylee
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Boongie Pam.
Cheers for that! I should have read that before I sent my post and had it sent to quarantine!!!
Hippy Dippy ;D
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Hi everyone
I'm new to all this have tried to get on some of the links but nothing
is there any other limks i can go on.
thank you
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Hello Karen welcome to rootschat
I have checked all the links and they all work except the one posted by Christopher last year in 2008
Celia
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These people may still be alive and Rootschat discourages posts including living people. dollylee
There has always been a confusion between tracing the Living and the dead. Genealogy website trace ancestors not descendent's.There are special websites for tracing the living,to put it in a nutshell genealogy websites go up not down ;D ;D
Celia
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Hi Celia
Thank you for the welcome and a reply, think i might have a lot to learn.
Where is the best place to start when you don't have that much information to start off with
ie Name,place where they left to go to Australia. thats it
thank you
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I can't get the 'b4u' link to work.
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Can you please tell me the best place to post a request on here regarding tracing family in Belfast/Dublin?
Many thanks
Tricia
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Hi again, ok, new to this, and can't find my way, how do I know if I've got a reply to my message? I just know I'm going to feel really daft (Scottish word) when I'm told how simple it is, saying sorry in advance. duh!
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I knew the name of a second cousin and using Ancestry found her marriage and then children. Luckily through Genes I was able to find her and we are now in contact exchanging family news It was a lucky break through.
Ringrose
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Hi Thea543
I have sent you a personal message
Thanks
Sirius
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Hi,
I cant find your message can you contact me again Please.
Thanks
Thea
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Hi thea543,
I have sent the personal massage again, should show new message at the top of the welcome back page.
Thanks and regards
Sirius
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Hiya guys,
Another newbie here. My Uncle Charlie was recently a subject on Heir Hunters. He changed his name to Karl Franz Eduardo von Eudeni. I was on the programme ( aired in July 09 ) His past is very sketchy and I wanted to trace our history back even further ( Cullum ) I know that my recently found Cousin Ron has traced our history back to 1810, but I wanted to know is it worth me paying out for Ancestry.co.uk to try and go back further? Also, on that site or Genes Re-united, can you search for more than one branch of the family ie : Mothers side?
Many thanks
Steve
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The b4u link just throws up a blank screen.
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There's another very similar site to the Missing You (UK) message board service one that you have mentioned. Its a more international website so the people searches should show up better in foreign search engine results:-
http://wikiworldbook.com/trace-lost-friends-and-relatives
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Will try that thanks Petros
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Unfortunately another site that just gives a blank page!
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Hi Redrodger. How strange - I just tried the People Trace link (ie http://wikiworldbook.com/trace-lost-friends-and-relatives) and it works fine for me. Hmm. If its happened to you on another link as well, might it be a issue with your browser?
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Went straight in on this new link, thanks Petros.
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No worries! Hopefully you'll find the site useful - I did!
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My sister and I were separated as Children. She found me over 30 years ago but then I lost track again. Our link, relatives in Canada, have certainly died. She no longer lives at the last address. I have tried googling possible names. She could use any of four known surnames and may have remarried. I have googled known names and end up in other centuries. Of the advice you have given, what would be the best way to proceed?
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Personally I would try first name and last known address. There may be better ideas forthcoming.
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And at what sites would you go and do this? Letters to that address have long been returned.
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Another possibility which has worked for me in the UK. Find the name of the local newspaper covering the area where they lived. Letter to the editor telling him of your search and asking his help. If they are like newspapers in the UK will be very pleased to help.
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I **THINK*** I have an Irish father, although this depends wholly on how much truth is in what my mother told me. I am in my late forties and only found out at 34 that this Irish person may not be the only man that could possibly be my father as my mother named a man in a nearby village as a possible candidate. Basically this was back in the sixties so both me could be still living. My mother only volunteered this info when a woman traced us who is my sister and I had always been told I was an only child. I would have absolutely no idea of what is truth or fiction coming out of Mum's mouth!! So really, tracing any relatives of mine from my paternal side, living or deceased would be an absolute minefield!!!! The Irish one My mother - has said - is deceased from what she has heard.
I am interested in helping a friend trace his roots, this is why I joined, and although my first post fell somewhat foul of the rules on living people, I think that with a bit of luck I may have some success!!
I think some of those links will come in handy! :)
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Delicate issue. Perhaps one or both of the putative fathers would be willing to give a DNA sample which unless they happen to be identical twins (extremely unlikely) would resolve the issue. Personally I would take advice about your situation from someone qualified to help. But who? Perhaps another Rootschatter can help you?
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Thanks Roger - sorry don't know if you are referring to my post! The only problem there is that both names she gave me may well not exist, for example when I was younger she said my fathers name was Joe Bloggs - (to avoid naming people) and after this woman got in contact she came out with, say Jerry Bloggs for this Irish chap, and when I said that she had told me his name was Joe, she went into a flap saying sehe is too old and her brain cannot work back that far!!! The second man she has given two names for too.... I would definitely remember no matter how old I am, any man who made me pregnant, or if two possibilites, both their names, it isn't something a woman would easily forget. I do think she knows, and I may find out on her death - maybe she has instructed a family member to tell me then!!! Until then I will just get names.... >:( :-\
Oh well - if I can help Jimmy trace his relatives, it doesn't matter about mine, Mum can stew!!!
Funny enough - one of her hobbies is tracing her family history......... ::)
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Khaines, I was referring to your post. If she will give you the name might be worthwhile trying to contact them and ask if they are willing to provide a sample. Stress that it is only for family history purposes as some people can get very sensitive when people contact them saying they are relatives, think their money is at risk etc.
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Hi Roger.
I did try and find trace men by the names she gave me but drew blanks - this is the problem, I have no way of contacting them because I cannot find anyone by the names she has given, I have tried. Several times, the Irish chap came from Limerick but cannot find anyone of the name she gave there, or the bloke from the village!! I have written letters stating about DNA to various people but drawn blanks at every turn - which makes me wonder what truth is in the names she has given.
Very tricky situation, and very frustrating. I have no addresses or contact names to write to, same as my friend I am trying to help.
Thanks again for your advice, I amy well try and delve again!!!
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Why not try testing the water with some adverts in the local papers of the areas where she says the men live? Something on the lines of "Did you know XXX in the 19XXs" etc. May bring a result that you could progress further. Personally if I did this I would use a box number for replies.
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I'm definitely thinking about doing something like that and see what happens!!!! ;) I'm keeping it a secret from Mum though - if I do find anything I don't want any of her spanners in the works, lol!!
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Good luck, keep us posted either on the thread or by pm. Still looking for my cousin.
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I ended up speaking to Mum again about it, despite what I put above, I have had a couple of nights lying awake and it was doing my head in, so I rang up this afternoon. My problem is that I don't believe that the names she has given me are actual people, they are made up names. One candidate is from Limerick, or so Mum, says but there are no families of that surname in Limerick! Maybe just not looked hard enough - but it seems suss. Because it has been stressing me out, I rang her - she was a lot better than I thought, but still don't 100% believe her.
Jimmy didn't turn up this morning for me to get more info out of, which is a pity as I went down all bright eyed and bushy tailed armed with a notepad!!!! Goodness knows where he went... ;)
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Might be worthwhile trying Limerick voters lists, telephone directories and guides etc. for the appropriate time to see whether there was anyone of the name in the area at that time. If you draw a total blank then it is likely she was spinning you a yarn, but if you wish you could then approach her with that news and see her reaction.
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I managed last night to track down names of that family in Limerick - am considering applying for records, although the service costs!!! I'm going to try and access directories too. Like i said, contact isn't really important, it is closure. I'm debating the DNA issue!!!
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Some progress at last. Perhpas a Rootschatter in the area could help you by personal message to preserve confidentiality?
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Hi Khaines,
Is there a family member you are very close to who you can speak to in confidence and who may know the identity of your father?
That worked for a friend of mine in a very similar situation.
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I have been down that route - most of my relatives I am estranged from anyway, as I have never got on with them, and the one aunt who I consider closest has said she doesn't know much about it, and from past issues regarding my mother, she doesn't want to get involved and possibly cause friction with her sister.
If she does know, she ain't telling in case it causes trouble with Mum.
I am autistic, and my problems connected with it have caused friction between myself and my relatives all my life, and although they say they want to help, when it comes down to it - nothing!!
Long used to it!!! ::) ;)
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Any response to the approach I suggested in reply 42? i.e.other rootschatters by pm yet?
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I have been discussing things via pm with someone, mostly to do with Jim, but I have to glean info from him when I see him!!