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Independent Islands => Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark => Channel Islands Lookup Requests => Topic started by: djf86 on Wednesday 16 March 05 18:00 GMT (UK)
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Either in Trinity or St Heliers for Charles Blampied b. 1815. There were 2 Charles in the 1841 Trinity census with the right father name (Charles). Which one is mine, I don't know. He was in St Heliers when he got married in 1861 the second time.
In the 1861 census, he would be a widower, if by any chance you find him in that census to.
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Hi -
I have looked these up in the Jersey Archives and found the following:
1851 census Trinity - Les Croix:
BLAMPIED Charles, head married, 36, Grocer and shopkeeper, and farmer, born: Jersey, Trinity
Rachel, wife marr, 46, at home, born: Jersey, Trinity
Charles, son, 15, farmer's son, " "
John, son, 12, scholar, " "
Rachel, daughter, 10, " " "
Joshua, son, 6, " " "
1851 Trinity - Cambrai:
BLAMPIED Charles, head, widower, 62, farmer 9 acres and empl. 3 labourers, born: Trinity;
Charles, son, marr, 35, employd. on farm, Trinity;
Elizabeth,, d-in-law, 32, at home, "
Eliza, g-daughter, 7, scholar, "
Charles, g-son, 5, " "
Jean, g-son, 3, at home, "
Henry, g-son, 1, " "
1851 St Martin:
BLAMPIED Charles, head, marr, 36, sailor, Jsy, Trinity
Nensy [sic], wife, marr, 37 sailor's wife, " "
Ann, daugh, U, 18, labourer out doors, " "
Eliza Susan, daugh, U, 11, scholar, " "
Thomas Gge, son, - , 8, " "
Elenne Enriette [sic - Helene Henriette?], daugh, - , 6, " "
Mary Ann, daugh, - , 2 " "
1861 census Trinity Cambrais
BLAMPIED Charles, head, 46, marr, landholder, born: Trinity
Eliza., wife, marr, 42, Trinity
Charles,, son, 15, "
Henry, son, 10, "
Mary Ann, daugh, 8, "
John, son, 7, "
Philip, son, 4, "
George, son, 2, "
1861 census Trinity, Les Croix:
BLAMPIED Charles, head, Wideower, 46, carpenter, Trinity
Rachel,,daugh, u, 19, dairy maid, Trinity.
There was nothing else that looked relevant - and I hope from the above details you can sort out which Charles Blampied you are related to.
Let me know if you need more help in Jersey.
Mike E
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I have a strong feeling it might be the on in Les Croix.
Thanks.
Now I have to find Rachel's Maiden name. Their son Charles was 5 in 1841 and 15 in 1851. So their marriage must have been around 1835.
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I have looked up the marriage -
Trinity, Jersey -
11 Nov 1835: Charles Blampied and Rachel BLAMPIED
(so her maiden name was the same as her husband's - and, in case you were not sure, in Jersey the name is pronounced as if it was 'Blompee')
I also looked for Charles' baptism, but unfortunately there are three Charles Blampieds baptised in Trinity in 1815 -
(a) 26.2.1815 Ch fils de Ch et Marie PICOT
(b) 19.3.1815 Ch fils de Ch et Marie MACHON
(c) 10.5.1815 Ch fils de Ch et Elizabeth MARRETT
Is there any way you can sort these out?
In the 1841 census I found -
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Bouley Bay -
Charles Blampied 51 Farmer Y
Charles 26 Y
Elizabeth 50 Y
/ ... - so this is possibly family (c) above
Cross Village -
Charles Blampied 50 Farmer Y
Charles 26 Carpenter Y
John 18 Y
Rachel 37 Y
Charles 5 Y
John 2 Y
I think this might be your man: i.e. 'Cross village' = 'Les Croix', but unfortunately Charles senior's (b.1791) wife seems to have died so we don't get her maiden name here. ??? It is almost certainly Marie ... Picot or Machon ??
I didn't get the chance this time to look for Rachel's baptism - maybe next time I go to the archives.
Mike E
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Thanks I appreciate. To bad there's no census prior to 1841. :-\ Would there be another way to find out which Marie it is? I guess the death info will only give her married name.
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Thanks I appreciate. To bad there's no census prior to 1841. :-\ Would there be another way to find out which Marie it is? I guess the death info will only give her married name.
Yes, I think there may be a way forward - I will try to find the baptism for Charles (b. 1790's) second son, John born in 1823, - who should have the same mother. I will try to look it up next time I get to the Archives.
Mike
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Thanks. This is what I found while searching on the LDS site:
It's IGI and has mistakes if you look at siblings. There seems to be 2 generation confusion on the site.
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Pedigree
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Jean Blampied
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 JAN 1823 Trinity, Jersey, Channel Islands
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: Charles Blampied Family
Mother: Marie Picot
I hope this can be confurmed.
PS: Charles and Marie Machon also have a Jean in their family but was born in 1817.
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I don't know if it's too late to ask this but when you go to the archives. Can you lookup Elsie Esther Kelling (sometime named Elize or Eliza. born in 1862 in St Heliers. Married William Blampied in the mid 1880s. I would like to confurm that one I found on the census is the same one.
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Jean Blampied
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 JAN 1823 Trinity, Jersey, Channel Islands
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: Charles Blampied Family
Mother: Marie Picot
I hope this can be confurmed.
Yes I have checked these details on a transcription of the parish register, and they seem to be correct and the only possible Jean (John) Blampied born in Trinity in 1823.
These parents seem to tie up with Charles (bap. 26.2.1815) - and so parents Charles senior and Marie PICOT.
I have also looked up their marriage -
Charles BLAMPIED and Marie PICOT - 12 Jan 1783 - Trinity; both of this parish.
Unfortunately, their fathers' names are not recorded on the transcription.
Mike
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I don't know if it's too late to ask this but when you go to the archives. Can you lookup Elsie Esther Kelling (sometime named Elize or Eliza. born in 1862 in St Heliers. Married William Blampied in the mid 1880s. I would like to confurm that one I found on the census is the same one.
Sorry - I didn't get round to this bit today. I'll try next time.
Mike
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So let me try to understand here. Are there 2 Charles married to Marie Picot? One father of John b1823 and Charles b1815, and another father of Charles b1791.
The Charles born in 1791 married a girl with the same name as his mother, or Am I missing something? ???
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It's confusing because there are 3 generations of Charles and two John Blampieds - not including those in other families:
Charles B b.1791 m. Marie Picot
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Sons: John Blampied b.1823
Charles Blampied b. 1815 m. Rachel Blampied b.1805
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Charles Blampied b.1836
John Blampied b.1839
Rachel Blampied b.1841
Joshua Blampied b. 1845
I hope this helps - but please accept that this is only my interpretation of the data. I don't know how to attach a tree onto this response, but if you send me personal message with your private e-mail address I will attach a file.
Mike
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I don't know if it's too late to ask this but when you go to the archives. Can you lookup Elsie Esther Kelling (sometime named Elize or Eliza. born in 1862 in St Heliers. Married William Blampied in the mid 1880s. I would like to confurm that one I found on the census is the same one.
I have have not got her marriage to William - but I do have her birth:
St Helier baptisms -
Elizabeth Esther - fille de Thomas Philip KELLING , boucher, et Elizabeth Ann BLAMPIED.born 27 Nov 1857, baptised 13 Dec 1857.
Thomas Blampied paraine; Esther Noel marraine.
Mike E
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That intersting I have her born in 1862 d/o of Charles Kelling in the 1871 census.
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Oops ... sorry, there is probably more than one!
I have also found Eliza Kelling and family on the 1871 census - so perhaps Elizabeth Esther Kelling is another person.
I also have found her birth entry -
Eliza Esther Kelling -
St Helier 9.10.1861 - 30.10.1862, Page 50
(she does not appear in St Helier Parish church baptism register - so may be baptised elsewhere?)
You can order the certificate from -
The Superintendent Registrar
10 Royal Square
St Helier, Jersey JE2 4WA
tel. 01534 502335
Mike E
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thanks
I'll write to them as soon as possible
Dave